Micro 276 Peek a Boo! Mafia GAME OVER

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Natirasha
Ganondorf
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According to the OP, 9/9 have confirmed.

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hello son the game started 3AM my time so i was asleep and i only just woke up :~

Anyway my percent was 99%, possible partner Majiffy.

Can we even really scumhunt when people haven't read their role PMs?

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Stop making excuses and vote ganondorf.

I'm not voting anyone just yet but if I did vote someone it'd be Majiffy, sorry.

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Well don't worry because even though I'm pretty sure he's scum I'm not going to vote him yet because he's cool and fun and lets not lynch him until close to deadline.

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For a little while, anyway.

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Because you need no1 else when you have me

Words of Wisdom.

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Om!

Rate the playerlist in order from most useful to you to least.

Well I only really remember playing with Wisdom, Nat, uctriton and Majiffy so I'd guess it would go like Majiffy>Wisdom>Nat>uctriton>everyone else.

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I really want to just check my role PM right now but I know that to myself I'm almost guaranteed to be town so if I do and I end up being scum I will laugh so hard.

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I read my role PM because I figured that having claimed my %99 percent I'd be a likely target for a death and so I didn't want to die without having used my power.
Turns out I'm a Neighbour.
No, you don't get the see the abilities you would have gotten had you read it later.

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Yes but I'm not going to out them.
We have a chat together but since I'm the only one alive who has read their role PM I'm the only one who has access to the chat.

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No I don't.

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I still wanna lynch Om then, because he could be the scum neighbor and I'm fine with that.

So you don't think I'm telling the truth about why I opened my PM?

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The table is wrong, Jingle tried to kill me, not investigate Wisdom.

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VOTE: ETL

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VOTE: Om

I believe he is a neighbor. I don't believe he is town.

p-edit: lol... Om votes for me? That's pretty funny actually.

Thank you, I initially intended it as a reaction test kind of thing and I guess now I'm more confident about it.

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Yeah. I'm not concerned with the neighbor part. I'm concerned with the timing of his PM reading. And looking at the chart, Who had the highest number after the number he claimed, right? So why wouldn't scum go after the 99%? (Because scum claimed the 99%)

I hope you realise Jingle trying to kill me because they thought my 99% was weird was exactly the thing I was trying to make less damaging by reading my PM.

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Sorry, I meant to say it was exactly the kind of thing that I was trying to make less damaging. I didn't want to be killed without having used a potential PR and I thought I had a likely chance of dying due to a suspicious percentage, so that's why I read my PM.

PEDIT: Oh? Did he? That kinda proves my point even more tbh.

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I don't really think I can defend myself in any solid way so I'm just gonna say you're wrong.
I definitely didn't choose an action because when I saw I was a neighbour I didn't bother. Believe me or not, it's your choice.

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Call it gut, and I know that's not possible to convince you of, but my gut is pretty good.

Says the person voting me and advocating for my lynch.

(sorry, i just couldn't resist)

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Much stubborn. So observe.

LMAO

s s to p!!

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So has anybody used my actions today to determine my alignment or are we just going to go on WIFOM NKA?

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So has anybody used my actions today to determine my alignment or are we just going to go on WIFOM NKA?

We haven't actually gotten past anything other than Wisdom having his head shoved up his ass.

Do you have anything worthwhile to add, or should I move my vote to you?

Well look I think if anyone's lying about percentages it's likely ETL (mainly gut). Wisdom is probably telling the truth. You're likely scum, and so is Nati (gut paired with low percentages). Jingle is probably town. Uctriton I was having bad gut feelings earlier but they seem to have subsided.

Idk man I'm just kinda sitting here on the sidelines laughing at this debate because I'm in the center of it and I don't even care. I can't defend against the shit being thrown against me because it would just be WIFOM. So I'll just accept the fact that you guys are fighting over it like children and need to calm down :~)

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You know what I'd laugh if Who tried to kill himself and succeeded.


But seriously you two need to stop arguing about whose logic is better and just accept that neither of you see the ideal options in the same way.

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Do you think its even possible to determine a liar from the herd when all you guys are doing is rehashing the exact same arguments at least 5 times and yelling insults both ways?

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Do you think its even possible to determine a liar from the herd when all you guys are doing is rehashing the exact same arguments at least 5 times and yelling insults both ways?

Ignore those and look at the initial claims of what actions were used.
Who do you think is lying?
Do you agree that the liar would most likely blend in with the investigators?
If so, which "investigator" looks most like a liar to you?

ETL probably.
Maybe Nat.

Majiffy's not lying about his action but he still might be scum unknowingly.

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ETL probably.
Maybe Nat.

It's not Nat because the mod mod error'd, confirming that Nati got a "No result".

Why ETL over me or uctriton?

Oh yeah.
Well I get worse gut feelings from ETL than I do either of you. It's almost definitely not you imo, so uctriton would be my next pick then.

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You still have no argument against Om being the killer.

Is there even an argument for me being the killer?

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I'm just mad that nobody is crediting me for correctly predicting the fact that potentially fatal night actions would be used against me (which is why I read my role PM in the first place).

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You still have no argument against Om being the killer.

Is there even an argument for me being the killer?

We (ETL and I) don't think it's likely scum was just blindly shooting instead of playing pro-town, which means scum probably knew they were scum before the night ended. Which would leave just you, having picked up your role PM.

You don't think it's likely but Jingle did exactly the same thing except they weren't successful.

PEDIT: No I didn't want to die without having used a potentially good PR that may have been in my posession. I didn't want to take a shot in the dark and end up failing big time, I wanted to know for sure what I was so that I could use it to the best of my ability before I died.

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I see your point but I can't forget my gut reads entirely so I'm still weary.

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Idk exactly what it is but it's going off big time. No I haven't afaik.

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Om, for you to say that you think I am lying "because gut" is as bad as if I tried to lynch you yesterday "because gut". I didn't because there was no other evidence to support my gut. Today, we have evidence and I believe it fits you.

There's a reason I'm not campaigning for your lynch though, because I really don't feel too strongly about anything to really make a massive move.
The only thing that I know for sure is that I'm town. I can't really scumhunt properly when nobody else knows their alignment except for whoever shot Who.

There really is no evidence at all. You're all making it up. Each situation being presented is pretty much just as plausible as the others (from your PoV, from mine Wisdom is obviously right). It's just a matter of which ones you choose to believe. That's why I'm not trying to defend myself. I'm not going to waste my breath on something I can't defend against because if there's nothing solid to defend against I can't really give solid reasons.

This is what I was going to post at 3AM last night right before the site went down.

@Mod: I think a deadline pause might be in order due to the large amounts of downtime as of late.

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I'd be fine with an Uctriton lynch tbh.
However I'll wait for everyone to appear again before making a full judgement.

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I'd actually like to hear from Om's partner next as it gives scum less information to fakeclaim, but am not sure on my logic there.

If everyone agrees with this I can out my partner.

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Wisdom I'd like you to claim too please : ^)

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Wisdom I'd like you to claim too please : ^)

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look dont be a dong and claim please : ^)
I ain't confirming anything until u do

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I don't think that we should no lynch today ok.
I'll probably muster up a coherent reason later but seriously can we not do it yet.

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Look the thing is everyone has read their role PM so scumhunting will actually be useful now. We can use this time to ask questions and poke at people so we can make better judgements on how to use our roles and who to use them on.

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Yes, what power did you mean to send me?

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Also yes if you agree then can you please unvote because I don't want any potential hammers.

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I am here. Jiffy what do you want?

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Heck, sorry for not posting but I've been in a bit of a weird mood lately.
I'm kinda waiting for Majiffy at this point but I know I should be stepping up myself.

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I'm pretty sure.

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He sounds really town in the QT.

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I'm fine with the day ending.

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Oh didn't Majiffy answer that already? My reasons are basically his bc I agree with him.

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Nati I'm in accordance with. Is uci POE? Cause I haven't ruled out Wisdom.

Nati for a visible lack of scumhunting drive/direction since reading his role PM.
Uci for having so many bulletproof bonuses with confirmed dead town vig and town commuter.

Uh hello son.

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He convinced me.

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Nothing really.
I kinda had slight suspicions of you and Jingle but then idk man I wasn't really confident in anything.

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If ur basing a scumread off percentage and role instead of their actions after reading compared to before reading then ur doing it wrong.

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I love how you don't even consider me being scum anymore, despite me being "your biggest FoS" previously.

Is this supposed to be an attack I don't understand the purpose of this post.

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I think it's pretty clear, Om. Majiffy is scum tunneling on Nati and doesn't get paranoid that I might be scum anymore, like he would as town.

If you think someone is scum for not attacking u then u need to reevaluate urself just sayin.

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*wisdom floats out of the earths atmosphere*
u need to come back down to earth son

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hello wisdom will i still be scum when majiffy flips town

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who r u to say what is retarded

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im sorry but i couldnt resist that ok ur being really fuckin dumb

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I think it's pretty clear, Om. Majiffy is scum tunneling on Nati and doesn't get paranoid that I might be scum anymore, like he would as town.

^This is wrong bc you're calling someone scum for thinking ur town and that is the dumbest thing ok.

Also lets not forget oh wow everyone isn't scumhunting so lets discount the specific reason with an entirely broader one. hello have i been scumhunting much in general not really ok i don't think my play has been that different since i read my role pm it just got progressively more casual.

there's a whole lot more that i really dont care to point out but i seriously want you to reevaluate your scumreads, a good thing to look for would be the difference in play between when people hadn't read and when they had (also look for the difference between behaviour before and after night one). if ur seriously questioning why that is important, it's because there is a fucking difference between when everyone doesn't know anything and so they try to be town and when people know that they're actually scum so they try to put their conniving plans into action

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It's dumb because you're both expecting yourself to be read as scum which is anti-town from your end and it's also a possibility that READS CAN CHANGE. Do you even realise how obviously town you are right now because I'd think Wisdom as scum would actually have an inkling of an idea about what he's doing.

I'm not going to point out anything because it's more convincing if you come to the conclusion yourself than if I were to convince you. Just know that the reasons are there, waiting till you break free of your paranoia and realise your mistakes.

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also let me point out that Scum!Uctriton is just lurking in the background while u create the facade of our scumminess for him to hide behind

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hello wisdom may i remind you how lurking is such a good strategy because you dont get attention thrown on you as much because everyone is focusing on everyone else and also you cant be attacked as strongly because there's little to go on hmmm does this sound like anything to you

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VOTE: Nati
Jingle get on the wagon please : )

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I think the saddest part about today is that scum can't be lynched because there's no way we're going to convince uct to vote his buddy when we have the blindly confident wisdom among us voting the wrong player and giving scum a chance

i kinda wish i could just show you the neighbour qt so that you'd realise majiffo is town bc man he is legitimately angry at you and i really understand why

PEDIT: Hello wisdom may i remind you that that is exactly why it works like seriously man just bc someone could be town doing it doesn't mean they can't be scum either. it's null without context but the context here is that he's done nothing and has been scummy previously (the whole night action fiasco, you kno the one you were so fucking confident about you filled up a few pages arguing about. hey look wisdom you heavily suspected uct before so why not lynch him now)

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if we no lynch can scum shoot me thatd be nice thanks

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but yea thanks for just contradicting your entire majiffy scumread can u please go contradict urself out of this game

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wouldnt it honestly be a good idea as town to reread the game so you know ur making the right decision when the game could end if u lynch wrongly like i srsly have no idea why ur trying to argue against that

pedit: son please read the post again and get back to me ok

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u kno what i think i might go have a nice casual chat with majiffo in the neighbour qt i think i rlly need it i cannot argue wit u for long wisdo sorry

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ofc i want to, but is it possible, no

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Hello I am going to say that you're fairly obvious town so I wasn't worried about you hammering
But let me just say that trying to plan everything out in mafia isn't always the best idea and sometimes you need to take risks.

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ok so here's how this works. It doesn't matter who we lynch today because I was just given a roleblock (and I confirmed with the mod that yes, I can block kills). so all we rlly need to do is decide on who to lynch first (lets go Uct) and I'll block the other person and then we're set.

Everyone got that?

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I think you overestimate yourself Wisdom.

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it would be funny if he tried to kill himself

didnt i say that on d2