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Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:59 am

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Oh yeah? Well..
VOTE: RachMarie
Because you think being awesome at scum means I will always draw the scum card. Also, obligatory OMGUS. Image
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:04 am

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Wait a sec, you weren't in the game where I was a scum neighbor. I was *TOWN* in the game you are talking about!

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For making me wonder why you didn't nth me for a scummy!
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:10 am

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Actually, this is a non RVS vote:
VOTE: Lucky2u

You are active in our other game. You posted just this morning. Why are you ignoring our mod?
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:52 am

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    : Does Bo Know
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    : RachMarie
  • Lucky2u (1)
    : Yates
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    goodmorning Torcinator the 2 mastinas wake88 Lucky2u JasonWazza
With 9 alive it is 5 to lynch.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:53 am

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Oh awesome. I can't make it see AP as the mod but that's a minor point.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:35 am

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In post 30, Loranthaceae wrote:Wake is scum, Peabody is werewolf
You seem to know a lot more about the setup than I do...

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Post Post #33 (isolation #6) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:37 am

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In post 19, Peabody wrote:
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/confirm, if you needed me to say the actual word.
Oh that crumb...

At least the slot has been upgraded. :wink:
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Post Post #43 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:56 am

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@Wake:

No. Don't be lazy.
The one I quoted.
Yes. Read my reason included with my vote.

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Post Post #45 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:07 am

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Really, guys?
In post 19, Peabody wrote:
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/confirm,
if you needed me to say the actual word
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Fine.

@Peabody - are you an innocent child? If so, please just mod confirm it so it isn't a distraction. Thanks.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:44 am

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In post 75, Peabody wrote:I don't see a benefit of revealing whether I'm the innocent child or not now.
Really? You don't see the benefit of having a mod confirmed Townie? :facepalm:
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Post Post #114 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:56 am

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In post 50, Wake1 wrote:One of the worst things you can do right now is be noncompliant with my Scumhunting process.
Alternatively, one of the worst things YOU can do is get in the way of MY scum hunting. How's that feel, tough guy? You're like amateur hour at the Improv.

1. You don't like the fact I'm not going to self-meta? Really? Are we in kindergarten? Grow up.
2. How are you still asking about a "crumb" after I flat out asked Peabody if he was claiming IC? Do you see how your stupidity forced me to ask the question straight up and could have offered a fake claim?
3. Yeah. The only reason I
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Target me with your nonsense "lightning gloves" or stfu and let the big boys sort this out.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:59 am

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In post 78, the 2 mastinas wrote:liking wake for town too
In post 81, Does Bo Know wrote:Okay, just wondering. I do agree that Wake is probably town now though.
Yeah. He's probably an SK. Called it on page 3.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:03 am

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In post 118, Wake1 wrote:This one does have a little fight in him...
This isn't Road to Rome. I checked the sign on the way in. Then I log back in to 3 pages of terrible mafia that makes no sense. I came in to this site after a break to get AWAY from terrible mafia on another site. I am disappoint.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:06 am

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In post 119, Does Bo Know wrote:You think he's an SK even though people think he's town?

I don't get it.
How would *you* play SK?

Click on my name.
Look at my recent games.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:32 am

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In post 124, Wake1 wrote:
In post 117, Yates wrote:
In post 78, the 2 mastinas wrote:liking wake for town too
In post 81, Does Bo Know wrote:Okay, just wondering. I do agree that Wake is probably town now though.
Yeah. He's probably an SK
✦1
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✦1
Why?
You are clearly trying to set up a vig claim while trying to play helpful Townie. It's completely transparent.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:17 pm

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In post 128, goodmorning wrote:In what way is that supposed to be "crumbing" anything but "I'm replacing in, do you need me to confirm by posting "confirm" or is posting sufficient"?
Since when do you have to confirm anything as a replacement outside of simply posting?
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Post Post #135 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:21 pm

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In post 127, Wake1 wrote:
✦2
How so?

✦3
Absolutely not. Point it out.
How are you setting up a vig claim?
In post 111, Wake1 wrote:
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Lightning Gloves
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Are you going to try to pretend like that isn't faking like you have a day shot? Please. We're grown ups in here.

I'll let night actions sort you out.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:25 pm

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In post 128, goodmorning wrote:So you play SK by being a universal Townread? That's fucked. That shit gets you cut.
Holy shit. You figured it out. You win a cookie.

Yes. You absolutely play SK by being a universal Townread. That's how you avoid being a night investigation and the ONLY way you survive MYLO.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:40 pm

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In post 138, Wake1 wrote:Yates, do you know the
Annihilator Beam
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Lightning Gloves
are flavored aspects of my gameplay? They're not actual Power Role abilities.
How would I know that? I've never played with you. To me, it looks like you are trying to be intimidating and that you are trying to claim to have a day kill. Prove me wrong.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:49 pm

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In post 143, the 2 mastinas wrote:why do you have an sk on the brain
He's been dropping hints he has a day kill [until the above post] all day. Guess we'll find out in the morning, won't we?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:50 pm

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In post 142, Wake1 wrote:To be blunt I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion.
Really? You have NO IDEA why I would think you were trying to crumb a vig shot?
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Post Post #147 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:52 pm

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In post 144, the 2 mastinas wrote:i am too lazy to click on your name mebbe you could explain it to me like I am a 4 yr old
Read 136. Otherwise? Can't. It's against game rules.
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Post Post #153 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:14 pm

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In post 148, Does Bo Know wrote:That's how you play as any alignment though, right?
Nope. You can play low key as scum as long as long as Town is doing the work for you. As SK, you want and need Town cred. As scum, you just don't want to raise any flags. At least, that's typical "safe" play.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:18 pm

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In post 152, the 2 mastinas wrote:wow you seem to have a problem between differntiating between crumbing and regular posting/playstyle
How would I know unless I have meta on someone? I have to assume this isn't the Mastin head because I would *think* Mastin is smarter than that and knows better.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:20 pm

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In post 154, Does Bo Know wrote:But Town can also play and become a universal town read. Because they're town. Right?
If you're Town you don't need [or even WANT] a universal town read. If you become a universal town read as town you become a night target.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:24 pm

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Well, a. he's not a universal town read and b. you're silly if you think his posturing makes him town.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:41 pm

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In post 166, the 2 mastinas wrote:protip: I wouldn't try to drive a wedge between mastina and I by saying he is smarter.
In post 164, the 2 mastinas wrote:yates scumread is gaining momentum
protip: talk to your other head before making assumptions about how WE have seen SK's play.

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Post Post #170 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:42 pm

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In post 168, Wake1 wrote:I haven't been crumbing Serial Killer. That makes no sense.
Who said you were?
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Post Post #177 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:51 pm

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In post 175, the 2 mastinas wrote:
In post 170, Yates wrote:
In post 168, Wake1 wrote:I haven't been crumbing Serial Killer. That makes no sense.
Who said you were?
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Post Post #179 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:55 pm

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In post 174, the 2 mastinas wrote:mebbe I am not the 1 who is making assumptions
:lol:

You are so hilariously wrong I can't even use this in a scum case on you. Talk to mastin, slick.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:26 pm

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Right. I've been saying he's trying to crumb vig. As you have quoted. How is that the same as accusing someone of crumbing SK?
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Post Post #187 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:41 pm

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In post 186, Does Bo Know wrote:This is what I was going to point out earlier but I assumed this would've been said eventually.
Why are you trying to buddy me?
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Post Post #191 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:53 pm

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It's not your job to defend "Player 1" unless he's on your team or you are trying to get him to trust you.

The other thing is - and this is a pet peeve of mine - what if Player 2 was trying to catch Player 1 in a lie or with a gambit and you foul it up by interjecting your unwanted opinion?

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Post Post #193 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:59 pm

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In post 190, Wake1 wrote:I'm not crumbing Vig, either. I just said my flavorized abilities weren't game-related power roles.
God damn it you guys are the fucking worst and making these kindergarteners look like mafia geniuses.
In post 145, Yates wrote:He's been dropping hints he has a day kill [
until the above post
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In post 145, Yates wrote:
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Post Post #194 (isolation #34) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:01 pm

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In post 190, Wake1 wrote:I'm not crumbing Vig, either. I just said my flavorized abilities weren't game-related power roles.
I have a question: why are you making shit up and pretending entire conversations in thread do not exist?
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Post Post #199 (isolation #35) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:24 pm

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In post 197, Peabody wrote:Yates, do you still think Wake is crumbing vig or not?
No. And, tbf, it wasn't "crumbing" that I saw so much as "setting up" a vig claim. We're in a micro game and some dude claims to "reveal lightning gloves" then makes a solo post that says simply "who to target?" in the next post? Yeah. I'm going to assume that player wants to pretend he's a day vig. And given the BS questions that tried to look Townie? I'm going to assume he's not Town OR a Vig.

I'm not saying he's Town. But recent posts have clarified some assumptions I made.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #36) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:45 pm

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In post 202, the 2 mastinas wrote:how many times have you seen town fake day vig on this site
Town? Off the top of my head? Maybe once.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #37) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:47 pm

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How is that pertinent given he is expressly NOT claiming day vig?
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Post Post #206 (isolation #38) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:49 pm

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In post 204, Wake1 wrote:Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but God damn it read my fucking posts.
Frustrating, yes? So afford me the same courtesy, will you?
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Post Post #212 (isolation #39) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:59 am

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In post 208, Loranthaceae wrote:Too much SK and vig-crumb talk
:lol:

You are sooo scum. You can't make that accusation as if I'm not answering questions about it THUS your scum buddies keep bringing it up. You first. One of your scum buddies tomorrow.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #40) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:01 am

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@Mod - is JasonWazza in the game
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Post Post #215 (isolation #41) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:55 am

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Woah. That's a major leap, bro. Who said anything about scum talk?

Busted.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #42) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:39 am

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In post 223, Loranthaceae wrote:So pls explain what is in all of your heads.
I'm not going to tell your buddies how to avoid getting caught. If you flip Town? I'll tell you exactly what I saw post game. This isn't the time or place.

If you ARE Town? You should at least put your reads out there so we have the reads of a confirmed Town to take into consideration - though you've done a nice job of ruining your credibility with your "I'm the least skillful player" nonsense.

PE: Well, that's that. So now you can full claim.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #43) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:56 am

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In post 230, Loranthaceae wrote:Are you on some kind of narcotic wake?
Was this intended as a knock on his Gregory House avatar? If so, well played. If not, unintentional humor points. :lol:

I would have liked [and would still like] to see your reads before the hammer.

I also would have liked to see a post out of this JasonWazza slot I asked the mod about...

PE: We have 10 pages of info, bro. How could you possibly not have reads?
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Post Post #266 (isolation #44) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:07 am

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In post 264, Peabody wrote:... Someone is trying to frame me.
Why do you think that??
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Post Post #267 (isolation #45) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:10 am

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Also:
VOTE: DBK

Why you scum, bro?
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Post Post #269 (isolation #46) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:14 am

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In post 268, Wake1 wrote:Yates why you think DBK is Scum?
I'll let him tell you why he's scum. Busy little beaver last night?
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Post Post #275 (isolation #47) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:50 am

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In post 273, Does Bo Know wrote:Sorry, but you're a lying sack of shit.
Look, dude, you need to chill. It's very simple... You have one [and ONLY one] chance to explain your night actions last night. If you're Town? You have nothing to hide and can end this right now. If you're scum? Continue with your OMGUS vote because Town DBK would know better than to vote me after that post...
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Post Post #280 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:01 pm

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In post 277, Does Bo Know wrote:I don't have any night actions.
So you're going to sit here - as CAUGHT SCUM - and tell me you had no night actions last night??? REALLY????
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Post Post #281 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:05 pm

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In post 279, Wake1 wrote:So, why should I believe you?
This doesn't involve you. It'll make sense in a minute. Right now, I have caught scum refusing to explain his night action. HE knows where he went last night and what he did. And THAT is what matters. So now he has to decide to either come clean or let me air his dirty laundry for everyone to see. Either way, this information is coming out...
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Post Post #283 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:10 pm

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Meh. 1 v 1 is fine. For all you know I'm 1-shot anyway. OR maybe I'm a JOAT and one of my powers is PGO or bomb or BP? That's not something Town needs to concern themselves with. Let the scum figure it out. After over 2 years on just this site you need to trust that I know how to play this game.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:11 pm

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In post 307, Wake1 wrote:Yates, where'd you go?
Everybody poops, Wake... :nerd:

How about we give some of the lurkers longer than an hour to weigh in before showing our cards?
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Post Post #334 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:38 am

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Like I said, there's more information to come. We just need to hear everyone weigh in on this first.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:24 pm

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In post 345, Wake1 wrote:Reactions. Basically, I was hoping for everyone else here to stop dragging their asses.
I know the feeling...
In post 347, goodmorning wrote:Curious as to why Yates is dancing about.
Curious as to why he won't flat-out claim.
Simple. I was lying. :lol:
In post 351, Aegor wrote:you are also claiming that Yates is a psycho townie who is lying for...what reason, exactly? Because he simply had a hunch that DBK was scum?
Yes. Exactly. I was reaction fishing DBK.
In post 348, Wake1 wrote:I am the Town Tracker. I tracked DBK to Mastinas.
So that makes things easy... I don't even have to move my vote! Though I do kind of agree with this sentiment:
In post 352, Aegor wrote:So someone claims tracker, and you call him stupid because we may not even have a Doctor. Then, instead of just agreeing and voting the person you allegedly know to be guilty, you instead counterclaim Tracker with a guilty result on the same fucking person. So you outed yourself for literally no reason instead of just joining the lynch that you knew was good.
I mean, I obviously would have had to fess up eventually but I guess I get the impulse.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:31 pm

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In post 352, Aegor wrote:Obvious fishing.
In fairness, he knew I was lying.
In post 352, Aegor wrote:You have so got to die.
Yeah, that's not going to happen today... I *guess* this could be a scum gambit if Wake doesn't know how to play scum. It would certainly be ballsy to counter claim if he didn't KNOW I was lying.

Basically, I can't imagine a scenario where Wake is lying scum right now. Hopefully, this new information better informs your read.

Also, ftr, now you know what this post meant:
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Post Post #356 (isolation #55) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:35 pm

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Vote Count
  • Does Bo Know (3)
    : Yates Wake88 Aegor
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    goodmorning Does Bo Know RachMarie Peabody
With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.


So that's L-1 without RM or GM checking in yet.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #56) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:37 pm

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Oh. One more thing?
In post 286, Peabody wrote:I think Yates is either gambiting to see if DBK would slip up as scum or he really is the tracker.
How am I supposed to gambit if you're like "Hey guys, look at Yates gambiting!" :lol:
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Post Post #359 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:32 pm

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In post 358, goodmorning wrote:I'd like Wake to answer his own question at present, or at least lessen the apparent cognitive dissonance if possible.
Is this really a major concern?

Also, sorry I included you amongst people that hadn't posted yet. Brain fart.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #58) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:56 am

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In post 361, Does Bo Know wrote:Actually I changed my mind. All I'll need is Yates' conclusions before continuing.
Really? Ok.

Conclusions:
I believe Wake *is* the Town Tracker.
I believe I "veted" him in the sense that he p-much *HAS* to be the Tracker to know I was lying and to hard counter claim.
I believe scum-Wake would be exposed the second you flipped Town.

Therefore:
I believe he tracked you to 2Mastinas.
I believe you are scum.
I believe tonight you will dine in hell.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #59) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:18 am

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In post 364, Aegor wrote:
Yates wrote:Simple. I was lying. :lol:
:eek:
My balls. They are large.
In post 364, Aegor wrote:
goodmorning wrote:Also curious as to why he seems to think Town cannot be good and also gambit, but less important.
Because now we have an outed Tracker when we could have had zero outed Trackers.
Look - obviously it wasn't my intent to out Wake. It's not like I could just *assume* there was a tracker in this game. That was just bad luck.

As far as my gambit goes, the reason I didn't hard claim in my gambit is for the same reason I wouldn't have hard claimed as a tracker - a tracker doesn't tell you if someone is guilty or innocent, it just tells you where someone went. Ditto for the watcher. So if DBK was scum, and thought I had a result on him, I was hoping that not knowing if I was a watcher or a tracker would make him offer up more information. It was a good gambit that in the end a. could have kept Wake's identity protected in theory and b. actually helps to vet his role.

Finally, I think you are overly concerned about having an outed tracker
with a guilty result
. The reason for him to counter at this point is for precisely the reason you wanted him to stay hidden - protection. Assuming there's only 1 other scum, they are now playing a game of Russian Roulette. "Can I kill Wake before he tracks me?" This is a legit scum concern because scum doesn't know what we have in terms of protective roles. With Wake's decision to out himself, he'll draw a protective night action over a fake claimer [me] that scum might not have targeted KNOWING there's almost certainly a protective role out there. And what if that target ended up being Wake? It was a good counter on several levels.

Bottom line, assuming DBK flips scum we now have a conf Town. The fact that conf Town is an investigative role means we are only a few days from a win.
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Post Post #370 (isolation #60) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:55 am

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:eek:

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Post Post #384 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:51 am

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In post 371, Wake1 wrote:You sure you weren't attempting to bus DBK to gain Towncred?
Obviously *I* am sure. The question is; how do I prove it? I guess the only thing I can say is that I put myself under a microscope for the rest of the game - which is where I wouldn't want to be as scum. Also, the fact there's only 1 dead Townie this morning points to likely 1 killing faction. The decision to bus your partner, assuming 2 scum and no SK, would be less ballsy and more stupid. Towncred isn't going to win this game for scum Yates.
In post 371, Wake1 wrote:Still believe in Peabody's crumb?
The IC? No. Never did, actually. That was a reaction test.
In post 371, Wake1 wrote:With DBK confirmed Scum on my end, you both can't be Scum. Thoughts?
Well, obviously I could still be bussing for Towncred I suppose. That said, I'd defer to Peabody's sentiment as someone that's played with me in the past. I look at tit this way; while I can't *prove* you are a Town Tracker, I can take the totality of the evidence presented in the game and feel pretty confident about it provided DBK flips scum. Likewise, I think you will be able to look at all of the evidence and see that I was clearly making a Town gambit.
In post 371, Wake1 wrote: I sort of remember your little . What do you make of it now that I'm uncountered Town Tracker?
:lol: Game state has changed, obviously. That said, I still would have been super pissed if you countered me right away this morning. Sometimes strong players can get in each others way during scum hunting. I felt like you were cock blocking and didn't know why. I think that was a legitimate concern. Assuming a DBK scum flip, I know what your motivation was so I just shrug it off for what it was with the information I had at the time.
In post 371, Wake1 wrote: ...you did imply I was an SK in a Micro.

...while later implying I was setting up a Vig claim.
These are one in the same. Along with what's stated above, you were rubbing me the wrong way with your posturing. Plus, the whole lightning gloves thing was weird and is what made me think you might have a kill. If you read my response on this to Peabody, I think you'll see what I was thinking. Basically, if you killed me at that point I didn't want people to just assume you were a day vig - my way of forcing people to look at you from beyond the grave. :dead:
In post 371, Wake1 wrote:Do you have any games as Scum? I'd like that reading material, and I'm sure everyone else would, too.
:lol: Oh. It's a good read. I'd start with the Scummies 2013 Nomination Thread and go from there.
In post 371, Wake1 wrote:Who do you reckon DBK's partner is?
I haven't gotten that far. Maybe Aegor? I wouldn't rule out RM, either, but I haven't actually checked to see if she's site absent or ignoring the thread.
In post 371, Wake1 wrote:After me, who's your greatest Townread?
Probably Peabody, though it's also possible he knows how to play me.
In post 371, Wake1 wrote:Should I die tonight, it's probably safe to assume there's no Doc in this game. Counter?
Agreed. Anyone claiming Doc - or any other active protective role for that matter - after a N2 Wake kill may as well be claiming scum.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #62) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:01 am

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In post 372, Does Bo Know wrote:I lied to Yates because I was thinking he was gambiting from the start.
Seems pretty risky for a doc... There's no reason for you to assume I'm gambiting at that point. And, why is it you think your protection didn't work, again?
In post 385, Wake1 wrote:They'll lynch you Day 3.
NOW who's flirting? What makes you think I'll live to see Day 3? :wink:
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Post Post #393 (isolation #63) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:08 am

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In post 388, goodmorning wrote:I remember I read that newb as townier than you.
In post 156, Yates wrote:If you're Town you don't need [or even WANT] a universal town read. If you become a universal town read as town you become a night target.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #64) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:13 am

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In post 392, Does Bo Know wrote:why did you pick me to do your gambit on in the first place?
You were the most suspicious person on the wagon. You basically rode an RVS vote through to a mislynch. Plus, I didn't like the amount of buddying you were doing. You buddied like 4 different players.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #65) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:10 am

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In post 408, Peabody wrote:<3 Love the GIFs
Could have done without the victory dance, though, imo. :neutral:
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Post Post #415 (isolation #66) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:32 am

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In post 413, goodmorning wrote:You were Scum, I think.
So I was... That's the one where I replaced hapahauli then replaced out myself. How do you guys remember these games??? I'm having enough time keeping track of the three games I have running on this site plus the other 2 off site! :lol:

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Post Post #420 (isolation #67) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:03 am

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In post 418, Wake1 wrote:I have a gut Scumread on Peabody.
???

Are you buying in to the DBK WIFOM???
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Post Post #425 (isolation #68) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:19 pm

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So... GM? RM? Anything to say?
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Post Post #428 (isolation #69) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:29 pm

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In post 427, Aegor wrote:I was totally right about how wake should not have countered.
Yeah yeah... here's a cookie...
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Post Post #432 (isolation #70) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:34 pm

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In post 430, goodmorning wrote:@Yates: About what?
My inclination is to lynch off the DBK wagon. If there are two scum left I imagine there would be one on bussing and one off in case it collapsed or DBK could wriggle out. That leaves a coin flip between you or RM.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #71) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:47 pm

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In post 434, goodmorning wrote:Not a huge fan of those kinds of assumptions but fair enough.
*Yates throws his hands up in the air*

So how do you propose we find the remaining scum? My biggest Town reads were on the DBK wagon so it stands to reason that scum will be off the wagon. Do you disagree?
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Post Post #438 (isolation #72) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:50 pm

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In post 435, RachMarie wrote:That scum probably has some form of PR maybe like a ninja or something to keep from tracker and so on being able to see him or her.
Erm - does it matter? With no tracker why even speculate on this.

I guess you could be right about the setup. Either 2 scum or 1 scum and 1 3rd party. Why do you assume the 3rd party isn't a killing role, though?
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Post Post #440 (isolation #73) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:54 pm

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So why is 3rd party more likely than 2 remaining scum?
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In post 442, RachMarie wrote:I have not seen very many 9 player games with 3 mafia on the same team.
Fair enough. Forgot this game only started with 9. My bad.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #75) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:47 am

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In post 453, Aegor wrote:
In post 450, Peabody wrote: I already explained this.
Your explanation is not what bothered me. The fact that you made the statement at all is.
I'm not following. What's this argument again?
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Post Post #457 (isolation #76) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:12 am

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In post 456, Aegor wrote:It just bothered me that Peabody went out of his way to comment that the NK was an attempt to frame him.
Oh right. I forgot about that...
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Post Post #463 (isolation #77) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:01 pm

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That's... a good case, actually.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #78) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:05 pm

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In post 462, RachMarie wrote:How do you know the night was shortened if it was?
I'll let GM respond to the rest of the case but this point stuck out as needing to be addressed. Mod told us the night had been shortened.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #79) » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:12 am

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In post 478, Aegor wrote:VOTE: RachMarie
???

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Post Post #481 (isolation #80) » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:48 am

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In post 480, Aegor wrote:I have my reasons. They will remain private until Peabody indulges us with the promised analysis.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #81) » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:21 pm

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I'm reading Peabody Town like a boss. Half of his posts could have been from me.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #82) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:59 am

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In post 486, Aegor wrote:Well that is an unfortunate combo.
So much this. ^^^

I just got burnt on a game [with a "neighborizing doctor??!!"] because of lazy/inactive posting. So this is rubbing me the wrong way.
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Post Post #490 (isolation #83) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:58 am

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In post 489, Aegor wrote:Would a massclaim make sense?
Depends. Is it LYLO?
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Post Post #496 (isolation #84) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:04 am

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In post 495, goodmorning wrote:Am I the only one around here who thinks massclaiming at LyLo is too late?
No. Typically day before LYLO makes sense. I guess my earlier post was really to gauge where we are at in regards to that. But I think we have determined there is likely only 1 scum left. So we have another day.
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Post Post #498 (isolation #85) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:24 am

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I guess. It won't affect me. It's up to everyone else.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #86) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:24 pm

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In post 501, Peabody wrote:I keep wifoming my own reads.
From your keyboard to Mod's eyes...
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Post Post #506 (isolation #87) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:28 pm

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I think this is right...
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With 5 alive it is 3 to lynch.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #88) » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:37 pm

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In post 502, Peabody wrote:I vote no for a massclaim.
Do you really think it helps scum more than Town? I'll do it, I'm just not enthused about it.
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Post Post #515 (isolation #89) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:02 am

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In post 511, Peabody wrote:Tomorrow is the day before lylo, right?
That's what's I'm thinking.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #90) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:07 am

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In post 514, goodmorning wrote:So then the question is who we want to start.
My vote is:

goodmorning/Rach [in either order]
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Post Post #520 (isolation #91) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:16 pm

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In post 518, RachMarie wrote:Yates needs to go first because I can verify his claim as part of my investgation.
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Well, now you *definitely* need to go first. I'm not sure what you are hinting at since our Tracker is dead and this is a 9 person game.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #92) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:53 am

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In post 524, Aegor wrote:Unless he would rather others claim first. I am happy to go next.
Let's do this. Just finish with the claims.
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Post Post #534 (isolation #93) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:31 am

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In post 525, Peabody wrote:A universal backup, a rolecop AND a tracker?
She's right that I'm the universal backup. I turned tracker this morning.
In post 530, goodmorning wrote:Is it just me, or does Scum Rolecop make more sense given the Town Tracker flip?
This is my concern. Why would Town need a role cop? Isn't this almost always a scum role? On the other hand, knowing this, why would she claim role cop?

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Post Post #535 (isolation #94) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:39 am

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So here's the deal...

Yes, I'm the universal backup.
I turned tracker this morning so I have no track results.
I also don't have access to Wake's track results.

Obviously, I was
going to
claim VT.
My assumption was claiming VT wouldn't hurt the Town [since I assumed Town investigative roles were gone] and might buy me a night. *shrug*
With being outed [one way or another] there's no point in trying to do that.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #95) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:44 am

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In regards to the potential SK...

We haven't had a 2nd kill yet. So it seems kind of weird to speculate about that.

Still, I started this game assuming there was a cop and a doc [investigative role and protective role] so I might buy the RB claim. AND, with a tracker and an RB we almost certainly have 2 scum left OR a scum and an SK. That would make a lot of sense for balance.
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Post Post #538 (isolation #96) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:41 am

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In post 537, Aegor wrote:It made no sense for RM to out you.
Agreed. Except scum don't usually have day chat... :igmeou:

So yeah. Probably RM and... someone...
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Post Post #556 (isolation #97) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:55 pm

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In post 555, goodmorning wrote:
@AP: What result would a rolecop get on an SK?
You would get serial killer. That's how role cops work.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #98) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:01 pm

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In post 553, RachMarie wrote:She is not the one who cleared you Peabody I did
Which means if RM is a scum cop then Peabody is probably her partner.

But that would also mean Peabody didn't do any of the kills if GM is telling the truth.

:facepalm:

I feel like scum role cop makes more sense than scum RB. If GM is a scum RB and they had outed the tracker yesterday, why not just keep RBing him and try hitting a potential doc? At that point, the tracker would be useless. That's how I'd play it anyway.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #99) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:02 pm

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Or Peabody is being set up by RM.

Damnit!
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Post Post #564 (isolation #100) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:20 am

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In post 559, RachMarie wrote:Feel free to look at my scum games and see how often I play a fake PR claim as scum. Not too often.

The lovely part is, the odds of a SK or 3 mafia in a 9 player game would be so scum sided even with heavy PRs.

So if you lynch one of us and track the other should be a win win. I am willing to go down to take scum with me one is already down so one more to go.
Yeah. This is not flailing scum Rach. Like. At all.

What's bothering me is Rach is too smart to claim role cop for no reason. If she wanted to out me and signal her partner, I feel like she would just put me first on her "most likely to be scum" list in case she died or claim "I hope a vig shoots Yates" or something like that.

And I am also having a hard time believing there would be two scum left. Which makes me wonder what the utility of a RB would be.

Finally, I don't know why, but 562 just raised the hairs on the back of my neck. "I realize rolecops get the role name, but the alignment as well sounds iffy??" Would we assume "Town" Serial Killer for some reason?

And finally, defending the scum kill sounds terribad.

After careful consideration, a good night's sleep, and a morning pewp - I'm ready to do this:

VOTE: goodmorning

If I'm wrong, lynch RM tomorrow and this has been a fun game. Catch you all on the FLIP side. :lol:
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Post Post #565 (isolation #101) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:24 am

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Crap...

Vote: Unvote


Let me think this through a little more...
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Post Post #567 (isolation #102) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:59 am

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In post 566, Peabody wrote:Yates, think about the BALANCE here.
I know. Which is why I keep going back to RM-scum. I just can't wrap my head around it and feel like I keep thinking myself in circles.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #103) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:10 am

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K - so hopefully that's game?
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Post Post #584 (isolation #104) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:05 pm

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VOTE: Aegor
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Post Post #585 (isolation #105) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:05 pm

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I tracked Aegor last night.

He went nowhere.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #106) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:45 pm

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My second most satisfying victory on site to date. Image
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Post Post #600 (isolation #107) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:46 pm

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In post 595, RachMarie wrote:I so would love to hydra or be his scum bud sometime.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #108) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:51 pm

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In post 594, AngryPidgeon wrote:I thought you guys were about to accidentally throw when Wake got the guilty. I thought Yates was going to claim Tracker and get CCd by both Wake and RM.

He managed to dodge around his softclaims though.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #109) » Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:12 pm

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Details...

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Post Post #613 (isolation #110) » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:55 am

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In post 609, Peabody wrote:I've never seen a universal backup for scum before
Me neither so you really aren't to blame. AP said you should have figured out there weren't so many Town PR's because of setup spec but I think it's precisely BECAUSE of setup spec that I won the game. While everything here is considered NORMAL, the scum universal backup just isn't used - and that totally worked to my advantage.
In post 610, Peabody wrote:Good job, Yates and DBK.
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