Micro 417: <Everyone is Against Me?!> GAME OVER

[Vulixeon]

VOTE: St Constantine the Hermit

You only want people to think you're a hermit. Lies.

[Vulixeon]

Do you two think anyone who posted before you is scum?

I don't get reads based on people not voting on RVS, I don't know why people get scumreads from people if they don't random vote.

I dislike the votes on Hulk. You do realize that he likely decided on that post before he even opened his role PM right?

I think you know there was a confirmation stage before this

[Vulixeon]

VOTE: Oscar Wilde

For insulting soc's skill to undermine soc's vote on OW.

Please could everyone set an avatar? Makes the game way more readable.

dude either you seriously need to relax
or you're scum
.
your username suggests a mixture of the two
VOTE: anon

Explain.

[Vulixeon]

@Mod I voted St. Constantine the Hermit

fixed, thanks! not that divine eh..

[Vulixeon]

How does my email make me obvious? I created it just for this alt so it has nothing to do with my main.

[Vulixeon]

Disabled it though

[Vulixeon]

it's rvs
it's rvs in an alt game
i don't like the serious so soon
looks fake-helpful

Looking back at it, it does look like he was trying too hard.

[Vulixeon]

Trying too hard as in trying too hard like you're doing something to scumhunt but you're really not doing anything.

[Vulixeon]

I also want to know Oscar's reasons on string. Not gonna say anything about that until he posts them

Looking at mandy's ISO I also see that she's been doing nothing at all so far. Holding off on the vote until she posts in response to this.

[Vulixeon]

Mandy's had a town response to the scumread on her so for now my read is changed to town on her. She also has a good point on string about his terrible scumread, which made me scumread SoC. Oscar you still haven't said your own reasons for your scumread on SoC though, which I'm still waiting to hear.

@Gork I'm not careful, it's early in the game and I'm not someone who votes whenever someone does anything just a little scummy, which is what Anonymous did. By the way, I do read "trying too hard" as small scummy, nothing significant, I can slightly see it as scum trying too hard to look town and scumhunt. Also I wait for people to respond to things because like mandy I can change my read based on reactions that people give. If someone's reaction is terrible after they've been scumread, that's when I vote them, unless they are significantly scummy for me to put a vote on them on the spot.

[Vulixeon]

So basically you gave a bunch of bad reasons as an excuse to call mandy scum.

I'm not gonna fight you about whether or not my scumread is "terrible". But why didn't you point it out sooner? You seemed perfectly content with my suspicion in 59.

Because I didn't really go over mandy's ISO till today.

[Vulixeon]

You've stated over and over again that string is scum but you've never explained why. I'm scumreading him too but I've been asking on why

you

think he's scum and you still haven't answered me.

Stop ignoring the question.

[Vulixeon]

Vulix is scummy. Jumps all three possible wagons (me, mandy, Soc), without voting for any. I don't really see anything in his ISO that makes me think he cares about finding out whether either those people are scum. There aren't any questions, and his responses are minimal. Seems more like scum positioning than town trying to work out who we should lynch. He also says mandy has been "doing nothing" in 59 - and then attacks SoC for saying nearly the same thing two posts earlier in 57! Seems like scum caught forgetting what they were pretending to believe.

No, it's called other people changing your read during a game. Mandy's post changed my read on both her and SoC.

[Vulixeon]

And I didn't jump on your wagon either. See post 84.

Btw, there is no p in my name, it isn't like the pokemon.

[Vulixeon]

Reads coming later.

[Vulixeon]

Real post tomorrow, celebrating with family for Thanksgiving.

[Vulixeon]

Want to say this before I post my reads. To everyone who says I'm playing carefully or something along those lines because I haven't been voting:

I don't do pressure votes, at all. I vote for someone because I want them lynched and I think they're scum. I don't believe in pressure votes, mainly because I don't think they work. This is the way I am on my main as well, whether I'm town or scum.

Why is playing like this scummy?

[Vulixeon]

Duality: His ISO has nothing that screams out town and nothing that screams scum either. Not sure what to think of him. For now, he's null.

Grey Hulk: The early posts were pretty scummy to me doing nothing, and he hasn't done much since. Accuses some people of posting fluff but he needs to look at himself as well. Leaning scum.

mandytastykitty3: The responses to the scumreads on him were good and he did point out some things about string. I already said that I think he's town.

A N Onymous: He is doing scumhunting in his posts which does give a town vibe but I don't like his last vote on string, mainly because we have plenty of time before the day ends. Still leans town to me though.

Oscar Wilde: They come with a scumread on string but doesn't explain it for a long time and tries to prolong it until I question him. Needs to explain the "fakeness" with string. After that he says that he dislikes the string wagon and doesn't explain why. Scum to me.

Gorkington / xenu: Gork was doing scumhunting which read as town to me. Xenu doesn't do much when he replaces in but I think scum wouldn't just blatantly state that they're gonna sheep. Town.

stringofcharacters / Casanova: Read him as scum after mandy pointed out a lot of things about him but he seems like an easy mislynch at this point, and I don't wanna lynch someone who has hinted at a PR. I like Casa's introduction and it's giving off town vibes to me.

Rudolph the Reindeer: Don't like his replace in at all and especially putting someone at L-1 without explanation reads scum to me.

[Vulixeon]

I think they're both equally scum. I'm fine where my vote is.

[Vulixeon]

ANO are you just going to ignore this?

Want to say this before I post my reads. To everyone who says I'm playing carefully or something along those lines because I haven't been voting:

I don't do pressure votes, at all. I vote for someone because I want them lynched and I think they're scum. I don't believe in pressure votes, mainly because I don't think they work. This is the way I am on my main as well, whether I'm town or scum.

Why is playing like this scummy?

[Vulixeon]

Mainly because you don't want to get lynched if you're a power role, so he was concerned about surviving.

He was also at L-1 and that is a good time to claim.

[Vulixeon]

ANO are you just going to ignore this?

Want to say this before I post my reads. To everyone who says I'm playing carefully or something along those lines because I haven't been voting:

I don't do pressure votes, at all. I vote for someone because I want them lynched and I think they're scum. I don't believe in pressure votes, mainly because I don't think they work. This is the way I am on my main as well, whether I'm town or scum.

Why is playing like this scummy?

Sorry, meant to reply to this - thanks for reminding me.

My reasons for thinking you are scum don't have a lot to do with you not voting. They are:
- Weakly attacking all three players who came under any early pressure, with posts that just don't look like you care whether they are scum (no questions, you don't follow anything up much). It looks like opportunistic positioning, not scumhunting. I guess not voting does come into that, but it's not central.
- The switch from mandy to SoC - you pretty much contradict your 59 when you attack SoC's 57, without a mention. Looks like scum forgetting their earlier "reads".

1) That's because it was early in the game and there isn't much to follow up on because I know it really isn't too important later.
2) I switched my read because of mandy's response to SoC's posts, why is that scummy?

[Vulixeon]

VOTE: Vulixeon

Casa should claim tomorrow. I'll hold off because of the softed PR, but honestly I didn't like string much, part tone part content. Casa's catch up is okay I guess, I don't feel like I really understand his reads though. What's so good about xenu's entry?

I would be satisfied with a Dual lynch today as well.

Anon is my strongest townread.

And then Oscar and Hulk are kinda in the nulltown region.

Explain.

[Vulixeon]

Explain.

What do you want explained?

Oh I don't know, maybe the vote that you pulled out of thin air?

[Vulixeon]

And you still haven't adjusted your vote. You said you don't do pressure votes, and you only vote if you think they're scum and want them lynched. Do you want Rudolf lynched? Heck, that vote has been there since RVS. Did you think he was scum since RVS? The whole "I don't do pressure votes" just seems like a convenient excuse not to vote, and it helps that we're all alts without any meta to confirm your playstyle.

The putting string at L-1 with no explanation at all and then just leaving goes high on my scum meter.

[Vulixeon]

I dislike how you're approaching SoC's claim here, especially when you were so critical towards him before.

I would prefer not to lynch a softclaim on day 1. He was acting scummy, which I'll keep in mind, but I like Casanova so far.

[Vulixeon]

I am still not sure how changing a read is scummy.

I have a role PM that says Town Doctor. I would prefer a Gutenburg lynch.

Casa, people were always saying how I wasn't voting ("pressure voting"), and that was scummy, so there's nothing else to say besides it's the way I play on my main and it's my playstyle.

[Vulixeon]

I plan to protect Casa tonight because of his claim since there are only 2 power roles in the setup and I am one of them.

Duality is scummy as hell and Oscar has some pretty good reasons. The only case you really have on me is that I changed a read and that I didn't pressure vote.

Time is running out and I have intent to hammer. Objections?

[Vulixeon]

I plan to protect Casa tonight because of his claim since there are only 2 power roles in the setup and I am one of them.

That's not true at all.

Why is it not true?

And who should I protect tonight then?

[Vulixeon]

I wasn't lying about me being a Doc.

Casa needs to claim.

[Vulixeon]

Casa was

[Vulixeon]

Casa's posts 326 and 330 read fake to me.

I doubt shos would give a delayed result and why would you investigate xenu? Why did you not mention anything about ANO wanting to lynch me until Day 2?

[Vulixeon]

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VOTE: Vulixeon