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Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8
Devil in the Details
Nachomamma8
Devil in the Details
Devil in the Details
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Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sun May 10, 2015 12:32 pm
Postby Nachomamma8 »
Hi guys, I'm the Old North Wind, and any town player I hammer becomes an Edlewood tree instead of outright dying. As a result, I should be hammering all lynches unless anyone else has a better hammer power than I do.
People who would be in my recruitment shortlist:
Pieguyn
Metal Sonic
People who maybe included me in their recruitment shortlist:
Pieguyn
Metal Sonic
ActionDan
Doduo
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #59 (isolation #3) » Tue May 12, 2015 3:21 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
Vote: Metal Sonic
i do still feel lost in this game so a good portion of this vote is sheeping pieguy but I can't say I'm a particularly huge fan of that response
my actiondan read is gut based on how he's approached the game thus far and normally wouldn't even be a feeling that hit the thread, but the thread's start wasn't exactly the most exciting.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #61 (isolation #5) » Tue May 12, 2015 3:24 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 57, ActionDan wrote:It was a better vote than the rest of you goobies. Still is imo.
@alch, i was watching your posting in team mafia and even if it's a town game I'd perfer that over mspamalot or unknowns. Pie/nacho would have been people who would have gotten immediate scrutiny
this thought processed is fleshed out pretty decently for earlygame, and is a good plan
it makes him less likely to be recruiter
i don't really think anyone in this playerlist would recruit him
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
My primary purpose of recruiting pie as scum would be to take town!pie out of the game. A big part of my scum strategy in a micro versus a large is that a micro is more heavily centered around finding places to hide, and removing town!pie from the game is guaranteed give me more viable pushes than any scumpartner would.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #86 (isolation #13) » Tue May 12, 2015 6:48 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 76, pieguyn wrote:essentially, I don't think it's a good idea to read anyone based on who they'd recruit or how many ppl would recruit them. Dan's attitude is a better reason to town read him.
If you are scum, you have an optimal path that you will take and ultimately you will take it. Anything else that you bullshit is going to be weaker than what your actual reasoning was. Reasoning that makes sense to me and seems genuine enough is worth an early townread from me.
In post 77, pieguyn wrote:don't see this either. there's really nothing I'd expect him to go out of his way to do given it's post fucking 12. what did you think was safe about it?
Actually, before I answer this:
Alchemist, why pie or Metal Sonic?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
I thought it was safe because I figured me, you, Sonic were going to be on most people's recruit shortlists, and I assumed his reasoning would be something along the lines of play ability, but I'm now informed that assumption wasn't correct.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #101 (isolation #22) » Tue May 12, 2015 8:25 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
mmm, i guess i don't need you to explain that
i'm decently unhappy with his shift from policy lynching me to "nacho will slay the scumteam", although rationale for that is explained by me having a timer thanks to my flavor claim
i don't really like his townread on pieguy
his townread on honey bee is strange: i had a thought that it could be ms townreading the scumpartner who recruited him, but honey bee does look ok individually and so it's still mainly a thought in the back of my mind
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
This seems like an odd question when you're his biggest scumread.
In post 142, Alchemist21 wrote:@Nacho, the bolded part seems pretty specific. What makes you think it could come specifically from a player being recruited? Why was it more likely to be scum-scum?
Honey Bee seems like a pretty easy target for MS to target as scum, so it seems more likely to me at this point that MS is attempting to clear a partner as opposed to shutting down a very viable mislynch without a real alternative.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #159 (isolation #26) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:48 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 157, Doduo wrote:And if by towntell you mean "who in their right minds would pick me as their scum partner" then I don't really see why you've given it the leeway you have.
no
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #160 (isolation #27) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:49 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 155, Doduo wrote:i wish i could respond with "i don't like u" but it's more like just "i'm scared of you and my total inability to recognize when my read on you is right"
like i'm pretty sure you would still make that flavor claim as scum because you have the balls to do so. and i'd imagine in this scum mechanic it'd be a great way to fly in the face of the obvious suspicion if you were scum
but alas! i am going to sit over here and on ms because i actually have a good chance of being accurate there (also easier but plus points anyway)
awww i like you too!
i keep forgetting that notscience is the one i don't like
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #233 (isolation #28) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:32 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 208, Doduo wrote:I think its funny that the two people who seemed kinda adamant on gaiden's post being a townslip are the two who are voting us though!
I don't actually understand what this is supposed to mean or say but OK.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm not really suspecting you all that much anymore.
Pie, the initial reason I started pushing Doduo was because it feels like they were falling into the background. I don't really feel that's the case anymore, and like the general push on MS so far.
Vote: Alchemist
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #235 (isolation #29) » Fri May 15, 2015 10:37 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 173, Alchemist21 wrote:Also, I'm getting a gut scumlean on Gaiden. He feels more talkative than I remember his early games being.
VOTE: Gaiden
:/
This is such a weak reason for voting someone. Why do you think that he'd be more likely to post as scum than town? Why are you completely ignoring the MS push (which has much much stronger reasoning than this)? What do you think of the Gaiden townslip that's been discussed? Who do you think would have recruited Gaiden?
In post 221, Alchemist21 wrote:Who knows Gaiden well? How does he usually react to suspicion in him?
This is something you could very easily check yourself. Is he doing something that you find suspicious? If so, why not make a case out of it instead of asking other people to do your meta research for you?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 6, Nachomamma8 wrote:Hi guys, I'm the Old North Wind, and any town player I hammer becomes an Edlewood tree instead of outright dying. As a result, I should be hammering all lynches unless anyone else has a better hammer power than I do.
People who would be in my recruitment shortlist:
Pieguyn
Metal Sonic
People who maybe included me in their recruitment shortlist:
Pieguyn
Metal Sonic
ActionDan
Doduo
This is why I'm not voting my strongest scumread, just as a friendly reminder.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #311 (isolation #42) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:37 am
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 279, Alchemist21 wrote:P.S. I can see the Sonic push, but I don't want him at L-1 yet.
why not? we have two days until deadline. nothing revolutionary is going to happen.
In post 281, Alchemist21 wrote:PPS. I don't know who if anyone would have recruited Gaiden. That doesn't stop him from being the initial scum that recruited someone, and I don't think he Towntelled just by saying he wouldn't get recruited.
In post 268, Nachomamma8 wrote:Explain why pie is playing "so good" when, if you are town, the major thing he's been doing all game is absolute garbage
Whether or not Pie is correct and MS is scum, I think Pie's posts have been pretty solid. Calling his posts garbage seems like an early attempt to try to discredit Pie.
it's a very strange approach to take when someone is pushing you as scum above doing anything else to just sit back and go "wow his posts as so great" instead of actually addressing the pushes he's making and trying to work with him.
In post 287, Alchemist21 wrote:Also, I'm leaning towards Nacho being more likely scum than MS being scum right now.
why is that?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #357 (isolation #43) » Mon May 18, 2015 1:37 pm
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 312, Alchemist21 wrote:I think you could be scum because it looks like you're trying to discredit the player you said you didn't want to be Town in this game. You've stated that you feel Pie would be a threat to your scum game to the point that you would recruit him just so he wouldn't be Town. I can see you as scum wanting to try to shut him down early as scum if you did not or could not recruit him.
I don't understand how I'm discrediting him.
I'm not saying that pie's scummy, or that pie isn't town.
I'm not calling her a bad player.
I'm not saying that her pushes this game don't make sense or are bad (I have followed her on her push for the entire game).
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to call her posts fantastic and super good if you're the one who she is pushing because, if you were town, the direction she would be pushing the game is completely wrong.
I also don't understand how you could possibly make this push while pie is making the exact same argument than I am.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #359 (isolation #45) » Mon May 18, 2015 1:40 pm
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 335, Alchemist21 wrote:How often has MS seen you make long posts as Town? If that was the only time I could see him forgetting you could do that.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #360 (isolation #46) » Mon May 18, 2015 1:52 pm
Postby Nachomamma8 »
I don't like the way Alchemist is handling the wagon (he's been the main/only pusher of a counterwagon all day, has defended MS multiple points, still is vocal about being willing to vote there eventually) . I don't like his suspicion on me. I don't like the push on Gaiden.
If Alchemist isn't scumpartner, I think Doduo would also be a decent possibility. Pushing MS and doing absolutely nothing else and not being particularly interested in forming/pushing a case seems very much like scumbuddy interactions.
I do wonder why the hell the day continues to be stalled out, though. In the past (three?) days when I last called for a hammer, absolutely nothing even mildly interesting has happened.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 312, Alchemist21 wrote:I think you could be scum because it looks like you're trying to discredit the player you said you didn't want to be Town in this game. You've stated that you feel Pie would be a threat to your scum game to the point that you would recruit him just so he wouldn't be Town. I can see you as scum wanting to try to shut him down early as scum if you did not or could not recruit him.
I don't understand how I'm discrediting him.
I'm not saying that pie's scummy, or that pie isn't town.
I'm not calling her a bad player.
I'm not saying that her pushes this game don't make sense or are bad (I have followed her on her push for the entire game).
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to call her posts fantastic and super good if you're the one who she is pushing because, if you were town, the direction she would be pushing the game is completely wrong.
I also don't understand how you could possibly make this push while pie is making the exact same argument than I am.
You called Pie's posts garbage. That's a discredit. Even if the conclusion is wrong, you can still appreciate the quality of a player's posts because being wrong =/= being mafia and being right =/= being Town. In open 591, I correctly started scumreading 2 players (1 SK, 1 Mafia) because even though they expressed Townreads on me, the Townreads didn't quite make sense. Even if someone's read is wrong, you can appreciate the fleshed out thought processs behind them acquiring their reads.
garbage was strong language meaning pushing the game in a direction that is incorrect
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post #372 (isolation #48) » Mon May 18, 2015 3:02 pm
Postby Nachomamma8 »
In post 364, Metal Sonic wrote:I think that Nacho even considering that Alchey is scum, let alone my scum partner, is pretty freaking disingenuous and I wouldn't be really shocked if he was the scum recruit.
What has alchemist done that's been unfakeable?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.