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In post 11, Flubbernugget wrote:When do votes start actually counting
probs when jingle does he thing
btw I really like the humor in your sig. What with House being one of the most policy lynchable people on site talking about policy lynching. Made me laugh.Don't @ me.-
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In post 15, Flubbernugget wrote:I'll never understand what constitutes as policy lynchable on this site
In this case it's being the biggest dick yet to get permabanned.Don't @ me.-
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In post 74, YurikoJasmine wrote:I don't get this runner wagon and FG if you didn't want to help why mention the stats at all? You're the one who brought it up.
vote: FakeGod
tbh I don't think anyone actually has suspicion on runner. However someone should hang a hammer over their head just to see what happens imo.Don't @ me.-
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In post 81, Bulbazoor wrote:Why are you not voting him then?
Have you ever come across either of the words, sarcasm or context?Don't @ me.-
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In post 88, FakeGod wrote:
Also, pressure votes on someone who is already active are waste of votes, which is why those on Runner wagon are throwing their votes away.
This is categorically incorrect.
Pressure votes on inactive slots have never been, and never will be a good motivator. Pressure votes are only effective for getting differing content out of an active slot that is difficult to read either way.
Pressure votes on scum reads are also inherently scummy bc you are aiming to prove your read right to the rest of the game.Don't @ me.-
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In post 94, FakeGod wrote:I think I liked old Esp better.
He brought good old no nonsense scum smackdown to the table.
Serious players generally do.
New Espe is less accurate but more effective.
For years people didn't follow me so I had to change my play to be heard better because I'd just fade and was useless regardless of how accurate I was.
I generally am still quite accurate though so new Espe is on balance, a better player.Don't @ me.-
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In post 98, YurikoJasmine wrote:In post 79, Espeonage wrote:In post 74, YurikoJasmine wrote:I don't get this runner wagon and FG if you didn't want to help why mention the stats at all? You're the one who brought it up.
vote: FakeGod
tbh I don't think anyone actually has suspicion on runner. However someone should hang a hammer over their head just to see what happens imo.
trying to push for a un-knowing hammer?
Quick day ones with snap lynches generally don't reduce the win rate of town. (I have a theory they help town because apathy takes much longer to set in and people are held accountable for smaller miss-steps which are both good things in my books.)Don't @ me.-
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In post 96, Flubbernugget wrote:FG so you seem to have believed the cop claim but are now proposing a no lynch for extra investigations?
I would be very surprised if anyone actually believed my claim. Especially when you pointed out how obviously bogus it was.
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In post 102, Bulbazoor wrote:That is insulting.
Sorry was meant as a follow up joke to continue the banter you started last page. I apologise if I misread your tone.Don't @ me.-
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In post 105, YurikoJasmine wrote:In post 100, Espeonage wrote:In post 98, YurikoJasmine wrote:In post 79, Espeonage wrote:In post 74, YurikoJasmine wrote:I don't get this runner wagon and FG if you didn't want to help why mention the stats at all? You're the one who brought it up.
vote: FakeGod
tbh I don't think anyone actually has suspicion on runner. However someone should hang a hammer over their head just to see what happens imo.
trying to push for a un-knowing hammer?
Quick day ones with snap lynches generally don't reduce the win rate of town.
doesn't mean it should be done.
vote: espeonage
Ok Wait a sec. Back up.
Sure you're right, the quoted does mean it's a justification for everyone to go for it. You're a bit wrong in saying it shouldn't be done. The fact that there isn't a difference kinda implies, but sure, it's not for everyone.
HOWEVER.
There is more to that line that I had that you have ommited. Now why would that be?
Lets see, it gives proper justification for my actions, it explains my mentality so that there is clarity.
AND YET YOU OMIT IT.
Which means that you have an agenda here. Either you want to discredit me, which if you are town means you want my recent vote on you to not be followed, ergo you are not town.
Or you are scum trying to lynch me and ignoring the pro-town parts of my posting. Which is really scummy.
You need to be lynched. Asap.Don't @ me.-
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In post 112, Xayzeck wrote:In post 79, Espeonage wrote:In post 74, YurikoJasmine wrote:I don't get this runner wagon and FG if you didn't want to help why mention the stats at all? You're the one who brought it up.
vote: FakeGod
tbh I don't think anyone actually has suspicion on runner. However someone should hang a hammer over their head just to see what happens imo.
What did you want to achieve with this? Did you actually want a hammer
I wanted someone to threaten it for the time being. But no biggie if they actually went through with it.Don't @ me.-
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In post 111, Xayzeck wrote:In post 103, Espeonage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Yuriko
Failure to follow through on actions you read as scummy is a sign of not wanting to stir the pot which is not a town attitude.
What is this referring to?
Her iso 2 and 6 basically.
Ignoring the most recent stuff that is incredibly bad, a trend to calling people out on stuff and then not voting or explaining why they don't follow it with a vote is bad. Reason being because it leaves options for them to vote and evidence to go back to should they need to flop on the person later.Don't @ me.-
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In post 236, FakeGod wrote:People who haven't given their thoughts on the no lynch plan should give them.
I would rather not pin my chances on Mafia not being good at pr hunting.Don't @ me.-
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Her posting is that of someone who needs to make someone they know is not scum seem scum, which is exhibited by excluding parts of an otherwise fine post and not following up on leads immediately which is consistent with either not wanting to shake the boat (so to speak) or wanting to be able to refer back later when an opportunistic vote is required.
Couple this with the subsequent back off which isn't followed by hunting, instead copping out of the whole process.Don't @ me.-
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In post 267, FakeGod wrote:Read Bulb ISO.
I admit that Bulb blatantly prioritizes self-survival, and I agree that self-survivalist play tend to come from scum.
But I feel that Bulb has been rather honest with his emotions in his posts. Maybe bit of that righteous anger you feel as town when you're being accused wrongly of being scum.
This p much sums up my feelings on bulba too.Don't @ me.-
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Pdodge, haven't had access for a couple of days, irl shit going down.
@Bulb: Please make a vote on someone that already has votes or give a full case you are then going to push. Vanity wagons are no good right now.
@Grey: Are you open to a compromise on Yuri, I'm really not feeling flub and you seem to not like either of them. I'll try to work on working out why I am gut town on flub by day 2.Don't @ me.-
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Town.
Lets just assume that anyone that isn't yuri I will happily call town.
I'll even call anyone other than yuri a strong town read if it gets in to people's heads how immobile I am on yuri.
You've even played with me a few times. You should understand how out of character and intense this is for me to be doing.Don't @ me.-
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Ok look, I've already gone over that flub is a gut town read. I thinkit's tonal, I got asked about it earlier and answered. I've been pretty vocal about bulb being town and gray is making a lot of good lines therefore they both seem town.
Fakegod asked for time I see no real reason to not give it to him when I have a perfectly solid scum read I am trying to lynch, Xay has been solid, nothing to complain about there, Runner and you the jury is out on but I don't really care at this point because after yuri flips we can use relational tells to catch the last scum so it doesn't even matter.
Does that satisfy you? And will you now lynch the scum? Because currently your argument of what is yuri flips town is not relevant to me because she is not going to flip town.Don't @ me.-
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In post 375, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
I mean, just because you seem convinced that Yuri is scum that doesn't mean that's what she'll flip.
I would happily stake many things on yuri being scum rn.
Also look at how willing you are to think I think fakegod is town. I don't have a fakegod read, because it is just asking for trouble to try and read someone off purposeful non involvement. I can probably fabricate reads for you if you want me to lie to so much. Would you like me to make you a reads list and put in what I want you to think I am reading everyone as. Because I can probably do that. But what I'm trying to tell you is that my reads on other people at this point aren't worth sharing because I'm not going to settle for a lynch on anyone else. I would actually rather scum has no idea what my reads are outside what I have to give to be a part of the game, considering the context.
So tl;dr. Would you like me to lie to you, or would you rather lynch yuri? Those are your choices.Don't @ me.-
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In post 373, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't believe I have played with you before? What games were they?
Poke U-pick was the most recent I think, but it's been a few times at least.Don't @ me.-
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In post 381, FakeGod wrote:In post 376, Espeonage wrote:I would happily stake many things on yuri being scum rn.
Your life?
My life in this game? I'd stake that.Don't @ me.-
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In post 403, Bulbazoor wrote:Yuri seems town. Is this her usual scum game?
You need to explain this. Like incredibly thoroughly.Don't @ me.-
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In post 435, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Basically he arrives at D2 with no reads and no prior posting on anybody but you.
I am willing to self vote if yuri flips town. If this wasn't open and there was a cop innocent on yuri I'd still want to lynch her and just assume she is a godfather.
And I actually gave you an accurate reads list before and have given reasoning behind a couple of town reads.
I do intend to be as infuriating though. People have a hard time hiding emotion when I'm playing like an arsehole, which tends to be useful.Don't @ me.-
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In post 439, FakeGod wrote:In post 438, Espeonage wrote:I am willing to self vote if yuri flips town.
This statement should assay BBT's fears expressed in 435.
Waiting for BBT.
I expect that I'll be investigating myself n1 though. I'll vote, get told off by the mod and then have to reveal my result.Don't @ me.-
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If you were reading between the lines I expect to be copped tonight. But completely seriously, if Yuri is town, I am evidently not fit to play this game at all.
Explain, and I don't care how long winded or convoluted it is, why she would deliberately mess with a direct quote for the sole purpose of trying to get a lynch on someone. No one who has done stuff like that has ever flipped town because the only motivation for doing it is to misrepresent someone.
Now people do misrepresent others as town, but that's because it is part of their town agenda. They probably already have the read and need more impetus to actually push it through. I can understand that, I don't agree with it, but I can understand that. However here we are talking, day 1, a few pages in, not much has happened, and she does it on someone out of the blue. Town yuri doesn't need to do shit like that, town yuri actively avoids doing shit like that because town yuri is interested in finding scum. Scum yuri needs people lynched, scum yuri sees an opportunity, scum yuri does it.
Sadly for scum yuri, I'm not having a bar of it.Don't @ me.-
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In post 443, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Sorry what?
I must not have been reading because I didn't a) see that happen or b) see you accuse Yuri of doing that.
That's the entirety of my case on her. The entirety of it. What the fuck did you think I was on her about. That is the whole fucking thing.Don't @ me.-
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In post 448, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Yeah, I don't see why that makes her scum. Like, help me out here.
She cuts your post down to the part that she wants to respond to. I do that all the time...
I explain it in my post. Because the rest of my post has contextual information that is then omitted.Don't @ me.-
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In post 450, YurikoJasmine wrote:No I haven't caught up but I think it's important to get this straight. Is everyone currently on my wagon voting me because of what espe is saying I am doing? Is it really that bad I should be lunched (because of it)?
This most certainly concerns this game but it also concerns my credibility as a player of mafia (the game).
It's got less to do about your credibility than that you are happy to play against your win con.Don't @ me.-
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In post 503, FakeGod wrote:re: Night Actions
Scum has no reason to forgo a night kill, so it's very likely that the doc made a save last night.
Also, given the way I played day 1, I wouldn't be surprised if I was targeted by all three, cop, doc, and the scum last night, which was what I was aiming for with my play.
Because when the PR targets synchronize in this setup, scum gets wrecked.
As a note, I would have docced Grey, Copped myself and shot Bulba, if I were each of those three roles. I probably would have roleblocked you though.Don't @ me.-
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In post 522, FakeGod wrote:In post 512, Runner wrote:I don't see why Esp is the obvious play today?
Weren't you here when he bet his life that Yuriko was scum?
This.
I need to die either today or tomorrow to avoid town being sidetracked. I'm not going to stop my lines of inquiry though.Don't @ me.-
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