Micro 503- CD9* Day 4

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:55 pm

Not really, game is kind of slow starting.

I don't understand FG's entrance or what he plans to gain from it.

Guess I'm just waiting for people to post or do ~things~.

YurikoJasmine · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:24 pm

When the game is slow enough for me to catch up, it's REALLY slow.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:25 pm

What do you think of the Runner wagon, Yuri?

YurikoJasmine · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:27 pm

My views on it is that it's pointless. Given your opposition towards no meta-ing it seems unlikely to have any solid ground.

Espeonage · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:28 am

In post 74, YurikoJasmine wrote:I don't get this runner wagon and FG if you didn't want to help why mention the stats at all? You're the one who brought it up.

vote: FakeGod

tbh I don't think anyone actually has suspicion on runner. However someone should hang a hammer over their head just to see what happens imo.

Espeonage · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:28 am

Obligatory flub is scum bc cc post.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:27 am

Why are you not voting him then?

Runner · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:40 am

I guess if it has to be someone I'm the best sacrificial lamb here. The rest of you have more or less played with each other before so your collective info (and experience) will be better than if I were alive and someone else was lynched. I would've preferred to stay alive a little longer just to see more posts from everyone though, and particularly FG's cunning plan.

Keeping my vote on Bulb for what it's worth. I don't really like the answers he's given about questions about his vote. It looks to me like an RVS vote which then tried to find reasoning later to appear legitimate?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:41 am

In post 82, Runner wrote:I guess if it has to be someone I'm the best sacrificial lamb here. The rest of you have more or less played with each other before so your collective info (and experience) will be better than if I were alive and someone else was lynched. I would've preferred to stay alive a little longer just to see more posts from everyone though, and particularly FG's cunning plan.

Keeping my vote on Bulb for what it's worth. I don't really like the answers he's given about questions about his vote. It looks to me like an RVS vote which then tried to find reasoning later to appear legitimate?

What RVS vote. My random vote was on yuriko, which is long ago gone. I do not like how you are ignoring this fact. My serious vote is on flibber not on yuriko.

Runner · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:00 am

In post 83, Bulbazoor wrote:
In post 82, Runner wrote:I guess if it has to be someone I'm the best sacrificial lamb here. The rest of you have more or less played with each other before so your collective info (and experience) will be better than if I were alive and someone else was lynched. I would've preferred to stay alive a little longer just to see more posts from everyone though, and particularly FG's cunning plan.

Keeping my vote on Bulb for what it's worth. I don't really like the answers he's given about questions about his vote. It looks to me like an RVS vote which then tried to find reasoning later to appear legitimate?

What RVS vote. My random vote was on yuriko, which is long ago gone. I do not like how you are ignoring this fact. My serious vote is on flibber not on yuriko.

Sorry, I admit I misremembered.

Still, now that I read it all back, it does seem like OMGUS. Flubber says "Make me", the post you didn't like. After it, you vote Xayzeck. THEN Flubber says he doesn't like one of your posts, followed by you saying you didn't like his post. You vote him afterwards. You try moving away from your initial reaction about his post towards his "overall lines". Still haven't answered Xay's question about why not doing RVS is scummy.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:15 am

Hey guys just checking. Going to be busy all day today.

Reading through thread can't give any honest reads. Will post tonight.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:52 am

It is scummy because rvs can potentially help to gather reaction or get a wagoj for reactions, kind of like how your wagon is.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:58 am

VOTE: FakeGod

FakeGod · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:40 am

Heh.

Yuriko's FG vote was telegraphed for awhile, and Gray's current posting rate around the site gives him credibility in his excuse. Their catchup posts are where I expected them to be at.

BBT's FG vote is fairly questionable though. I would expect scum_BBT to gun for me early in the game, and the way he makes sure support is there (his interaction with Yuriko) before jumping wagons is scum-indicative. (from my experience, town BBT does not concern himself with such trivialities)

Also, pressure votes on someone who is already active are waste of votes, which is why those on Runner wagon are throwing their votes away.

I'm not really a fan of Esp when he's advocating things like "put him at L-1 and see what happens". Baiting town VI hammer is something scum do.

FakeGod · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:50 am

In post 82, Runner wrote:FG's plan

I will just say it now. I'm interested in what town has to say about it.

I propose that we

no lynch

today and tomorrow.

This will net us two cop investigations at a cost of one mislynch, since we open d3 with 2v5 with 2 cop investigations.

If we just lynch today, then we open d2 with 2v5 with 1 cop investigation.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:51 am

In post 88, FakeGod wrote:
BBT's FG vote is fairly questionable though. I would expect scum_BBT to gun for me early in the game, and the way he makes sure support is there (his interaction with Yuriko) before jumping wagons is scum-indicative. (from my experience, town BBT does not concern himself with such trivialities)

Why would you expect scum!BBT over town!BBT to attack you early game?

Can you show me where I checked for support before voting you?

PEdit - That's dumb.

FakeGod · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:56 am

Because scum BBT recognizes that I'm a threat to him.

No problem. Go double ISO Yuriko and BBT and search for fakegod. BBT has zero mentions until Yuriko votes FG.

Why is that dumb, exactly?

Espeonage · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:57 am

In post 81, Bulbazoor wrote:Why are you not voting him then?

Have you ever come across either of the words, sarcasm or context?

Espeonage · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:59 am

In post 88, FakeGod wrote:Baiting town VI hammer is something fun people do.

ftfy

FakeGod · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:00 am

I think I liked old Esp better.

He brought good old no nonsense scum smackdown to the table.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:00 am

In post 91, FakeGod wrote:Because scum BBT recognizes that I'm a threat to him.

No problem. Go double ISO Yuriko and BBT and search for fakegod. BBT has zero mentions until Yuriko votes FG.

Why is that dumb, exactly?

So, instead of leaving you and just killing you at night he decides to attack you because...

You're right, I had zero mentions of you. I was interested in a Runner wagon and his responses make me think he could be town and now I'm interested in doing something else. I fail to see where I seek support for voting you.

It's dumb because it relies on the doc staying alive.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:01 am

FG so you seem to have believed the cop claim but are now proposing a no lynch for extra investigations?

Espeonage · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:02 am

In post 88, FakeGod wrote:

Also, pressure votes on someone who is already active are waste of votes, which is why those on Runner wagon are throwing their votes away.

This is categorically incorrect.

Pressure votes on inactive slots have never been, and never will be a good motivator. Pressure votes are only effective for getting differing content out of an active slot that is difficult to read either way.

Pressure votes on scum reads are also inherently scummy bc you are aiming to prove your read right to the rest of the game.

YurikoJasmine · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:03 am

In post 79, Espeonage wrote:
In post 74, YurikoJasmine wrote:I don't get this runner wagon and FG if you didn't want to help why mention the stats at all? You're the one who brought it up.

vote: FakeGod

tbh I don't think anyone actually has suspicion on runner. However someone should hang a hammer over their head just to see what happens imo.

trying to push for a un-knowing hammer?

Espeonage · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:03 am

In post 94, FakeGod wrote:I think I liked old Esp better.

He brought good old no nonsense scum smackdown to the table.

Serious players generally do.

New Espe is less accurate but more effective.

For years people didn't follow me so I had to change my play to be heard better because I'd just fade and was useless regardless of how accurate I was.

I generally am still quite accurate though so new Espe is on balance, a better player.