Micro 509 - Guyett's Greater Idea Mafia

Draynth · Post Post #18 (isolation #0) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:18 am

In post 8, KaiserB wrote:VOTE: ConManMick
What amazing town PR did you choose instead of cop?

This isn't a good question to ask, its rolefishing (probably not intended)

Draynth · Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:20 am

VOTE: TheIrishPope
Theres only room for 5 Irish people in this game.

Draynth · Post Post #21 (isolation #2) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:20 am

In post 12, ConManMick wrote:VOTE: Draynth
Because you're smelly and didn't come out last night

Wouldve been difficult given that I'm visiting cousins in England right now

Draynth · Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:24 am

In post 20, KaiserB wrote:
In post 18, Draynth wrote:
This isn't a good question to ask, its rolefishing (probably not intended)

I meant it as a joke to imply he's scum, but ok I won't ask questions like that again.

I figured it was something along those lines haha

KaiserB wrote:

What OP scum PR did you choose instead of cop?

Much better!

Draynth · Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:25 am

I like how the four scouts are all at home on a Sunday afternoon. Good job guys!

Draynth · Post Post #86 (isolation #5) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:15 am

So wait, Conor's kill kaboose thing was legit?
Sorry, I thought it was a joke at first and that guyett was just playing along haha

Draynth · Post Post #88 (isolation #6) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:18 am

^Although the logic is sound I don't wanna take that for a given since its coming from you yourself

Draynth · Post Post #91 (isolation #7) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:32 am

In post 75, EverydayMuffin wrote:Are these the only BP roles?

Bulletproof Townie
Werewolf One-shot Bulletproof
Bulletproof Alien Lover
Serial Killer (Two-shot Bulletproof)
Bulletproof Replicant

^Non town as opposed to scum, no?

Draynth · Post Post #92 (isolation #8) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:34 am

^Sorry didn't mean to quote that post, that comment refers to 90

Draynth · Post Post #95 (isolation #9) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:40 am

In post 93, KaiserB wrote:Are only mafia scum? I assume we want to lynch all of those that aren't BP Townie

Yeah I think only mafia are scum, other non-town roles are just anti-town I think, they're not aligned with the mafia.

Draynth · Post Post #99 (isolation #10) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:45 am

We have plenty of time, I wanna wait and see what the 3/4 others who haven't posted think

Draynth · Post Post #117 (isolation #11) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:08 am

In post 105, Xayzeck wrote:guys i'd appreciate not having 5 pages waiting when I come online

Why? It's more information to analyse as town. Admittedly a lot of the stuff so far isn't exactly.... Informative, but the principle is the same.

Xayzeck wrote:
I like con tho

Because....

Draynth · Post Post #122 (isolation #12) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:15 am

In post 119, Edosurist wrote:
You guys are all idiots.
I'm pretty sure the entirety of this game is Irish.
What have I gotten myself into?

Das racist

Draynth · Post Post #134 (isolation #13) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:41 am

In post 133, Edosurist wrote:

Not only am I surrounded by the Inglorious Irish Idiots, but you're all novices. Joy.

Das racist

Draynth · Post Post #139 (isolation #14) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:55 am

In post 136, Edosurist wrote:@Draynth
Any take on Kaboose?
Personally, I think he needs to be dead.

Obviously the numbers don't lie, I just don't see the need to be pushing so hard for him this early in the game.
Some people still haven't yet posted

Draynth · Post Post #145 (isolation #15) » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:03 am

In post 140, Edosurist wrote:@Draynth - Oh, so voting no one is much better.

My RV is on TheIrishPope.
Also, I don't want to give someone the opportunity to quickhammer and play it off as a safe bet if kaboose flips town. What's the rush?

Draynth · Post Post #206 (isolation #16) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:06 am

In post 204, Kaboose wrote:
In post 201, EverydayMuffin wrote:
In post 200, Kaboose wrote:
In post 199, KaiserB wrote:
In post 198, EverydayMuffin wrote:
In post 196, KaiserB wrote:I think if we have a vig besides ConMan, they should shoot kaboose and we'll lynch outside of him

What would that achieve?

Well if he doesn't die again, he's confirmed SK.
We have a decently high chance of him being scum, so if he's town we didn't waste a lynch on him

I'm not confirmed SK, as I'm Bulletproof Townie... No one is killing me with shots in this game.

I think SK is 2 shot BP. So he wants you shot because that'll show if you're SK?

Yeah shoot me twice, shoot me three times, shoot me 100 I don't care because it won't kill me lmao

This post makes me feel kaboose is indeed town. I feel like a non town bp would say something like 'why would you waste everything on me if you could save it for a scum'
I dunno, just a feeling

Draynth · Post Post #245 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:23 am

In post 213, TheIrishPope wrote:
Shoot: Kaboose

Ugh, I wish you hadn't done this.
We could've just lynched Kaboose, we can afford mislynches, and then used this to solve actual problems later on down the line. This was unnecesary IMO especially since we got hardly any information from it.

Draynth · Post Post #248 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:27 am

In post 229, Edosurist wrote:If someone shoots Kaboose and he doesn't die (talking about a third time here), I'll be inclined to believe that he's town.

Doesn't he have to be town if he survives again?

Draynth · Post Post #250 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:28 am

In post 247, Edosurist wrote:

People I'm also willing to vote: Draynth and Kaboose.

I understand Kaboose but may I ask why I am also a lynch option?

Draynth · Post Post #253 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:29 am

In post 249, ConManMick wrote:
PEDIT: That's what Edo is getting at

I find it odd that he says 'I'll be

linclined

to

believe

that he is town.' instead of just 'If he survives again he's town'.

Draynth · Post Post #254 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:30 am

In post 252, EverydayMuffin wrote:I don't wanna be a dickhead, but shooting Kaboose achieved literally nothing. All the roles were at the very least 2 shot BP. Shooting him would have only been useful if we'd a confirmed 3rd dayvig.

^This. That's why I wish TIP hadn't done it.

Draynth · Post Post #256 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:32 am

TIP shooting Kaboose also just makes it super awkward trying to determine the odds of him being town, and it's just complicates thing for us trying to decide on the best lynch.

Draynth · Post Post #257 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:33 am

In post 255, ConManMick wrote:
In post 253, Draynth wrote:
In post 249, ConManMick wrote:
PEDIT: That's what Edo is getting at

I find it odd that he says 'I'll be
inclined
to
believe
that he is town.' instead of just 'If he survives again he's town'.

FTFW

I think you may just be arguing semantics here. It struck me as an odd phrasing, but I suspect it's nothing more than that.

I don't, there's no doubt with the situation. If it was 80% town vs 20% anti-town after a third survival then fine, but it's a definite confirmed town if he survives again. I don't understand the doubt in his post

Draynth · Post Post #262 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:36 am

For now I'm happy with
VOTE: TheIrishPope
He used his ability and it didn't benefit town in the slightest (Admittedly not inherently scummy, mostly just anti-town atm). It added a ton of confusion to the lynch candidacy and just makes it awkward and more likely to cause a mislynch.
I also really dont like his 193 after he has effectively revealed his role.
PEDIT:@Kaiser, how is he not confirmed town?

Draynth · Post Post #266 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:38 am

In post 264, KaiserB wrote:
Alien Lover is also BP though, so if kaboose survives a third shot, assuming there are no Replicants, that makes him 50% chance to be town

Right sorry, I read that earlier as Alien 1 Shot BP, not Alien BP. Scratch what I said earlier. BP townie is still more likely but I understand Edos's phrasing now.

Draynth · Post Post #274 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:45 am

In post 268, ConManMick wrote:Hang on. VC didn't reset after Pope's shot.

I noticed that aswell, wasn't sure why not :O

Draynth · Post Post #278 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:48 am

Ok so TIP fakeclaimed then

Draynth · Post Post #281 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:49 am

He's at L-2 at the moment for those that may be about to vote

Draynth · Post Post #282 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:49 am

L-1 now

Draynth · Post Post #296 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:16 pm

In post 295, ConManMick wrote:Just read Edos' sig. My bad!

?

Draynth · Post Post #306 (isolation #31) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:55 pm

On the other hand, he could've assumed you would think that way and just sorta lolclaimed it. It's all WIFOM imo. It was an anti town thing to do, if he was here right now to actually discuss the reactions he got from it then fine. But he's not, which seems weird to me because he risks getting lynched over it without actually explaining to the town why he did it and what he learnt from it.

Draynth · Post Post #314 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:39 am

Yes Kaboose just hammered

Draynth · Post Post #321 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:14 am

I'm trying to work out his reasoning behind drawing the lynch onto him. Obviously he's some sort of lynchproof / 1 time lynchproof or whatever role, but I can't figure out what he was trying to claim if he is town or if he is scum

Draynth · Post Post #324 (isolation #34) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:55 am

Oh, I didn't know about those two actually.
If its the Saulus / Judas case, I think he's Judas. If he was Saulus, and he drew the lynch to become town, he'd be instantly nightkilled, no?

Draynth · Post Post #326 (isolation #35) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:59 am

Are you going to tell other people why so they can go ahead and vote me? I'm pretty sure I know though

Draynth · Post Post #330 (isolation #36) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:39 am

In post 327, Kaboose wrote:
In post 324, Draynth wrote:Oh, I didn't know about those two actually.
If its the Saulus / Judas case, I think he's Judas. If he was Saulus, and he drew the lynch to become town, he'd be instantly nightkilled, no?

You just sort of admitted that the mafia exist in this game.

I 'admitted' that there is some anti-town killing role. That's usually the case, no?

Draynth · Post Post #331 (isolation #37) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:52 am

Wait, TIP said

'If there's a doc you better be on me. Trust me

' in 193.
I don't see why he made such a big deal of this if he is Saulus / Judas or even a lynchproof townie. It seems odd

Draynth · Post Post #334 (isolation #38) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:15 am

In post 332, KaiserB wrote:
In post 331, Draynth wrote:Wait, TIP said
'If there's a doc you better be on me. Trust me
' in 193.
I don't see why he made such a big deal of this if he is Saulus / Judas or even a lynchproof townie. It seems odd

It could be that if he gets lynched and becomes town, then the doctor should protect him because mafia will want to kill him?

Yeah but I don't think he has any special powers right now either way, why is it so important o.0

Draynth · Post Post #336 (isolation #39) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:29 am

^No idea, never heard of it before

Draynth · Post Post #339 (isolation #40) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:55 am

What? You 'faked a vig shot' but you 'didn't know he wouldn't die?'. What?

Draynth · Post Post #341 (isolation #41) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:58 am

Why would the fake shot kill him though? Ignoring the fact that he is a 2shot bp or a bulletproof bp why would he die if the vig shot is fake?

Draynth · Post Post #343 (isolation #42) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:02 am

Just because he didn't say anything doesn't make him an x-shot role, he could still just be a bulletproof townie. He could also be a one-shot role and just didn't say anything anyway.

Draynth · Post Post #347 (isolation #43) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:12 am

In post 344, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 219, KaiserB wrote:
In post 218, TheIrishPope wrote:Any last words before mod comes?

he won't die. He's at least a 2-shot BP

So this isn't true?

I might just be thick right now, but how was that a definite thing at the time?

Draynth · Post Post #348 (isolation #44) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:12 am

In post 345, ConManMick wrote:Dray, he was hoping Kaboose would lost to the effect of "shit, you killed me,aargh" etc. Etc.

I know that, I just still don't get why he is surprised that he didn't die if the shot was fake. I don't get it

Draynth · Post Post #349 (isolation #45) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:14 am

Correction:I think i know what he means. He thought Kaboose was a one-shot townie or whatever, i think it's just the way he's phrasing it. I'm having trouble articulating my point. I'll be back later, have to go out for now.

Draynth · Post Post #354 (isolation #46) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:28 am

VOTE: Kaboose
I want to hear what he has to say

Draynth · Post Post #355 (isolation #47) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:29 am

PS: That's L-1^

Draynth · Post Post #357 (isolation #48) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:40 am

At the moment I'm leaning town on him. I feel like all of his questions / statistical analysis have had good intentions, but only leaning because he hasn't really been scumhunting a whole lot. It's still very early though and nobody has really so he's not alone I guess.
What about you?

Draynth · Post Post #358 (isolation #49) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:41 am

PS. Guys I'll be V/LA from tomorrow until Sunday evening. I should be able to post once or twice over the next few days but if not I sincerely apologies, I'll get back to show my face ASAP. Sorry!

Draynth · Post Post #363 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:27 am

Actually for now I'd like to
VOTE: Unvote
I don't want someone to hammer without warning / without hearing from kaboose.
I also need to think about some stuff. I'll try to post in the morning before i leave.

Draynth · Post Post #376 (isolation #51) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:55 pm

Yeahv ok I'm fine with it
VOTE: Kaboose

Draynth · Post Post #377 (isolation #52) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:56 pm

Aaaand I didn't see ASP's vote.... crap.
I don't think it's that much of an issue, sorry for hammering. Didn't realise he as at L-1

Draynth · Post Post #384 (isolation #53) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:47 am

Just FYI I was the one who shot KaiserB, I'm a one shot town vig. I thought he might'be been an anti-town role. I was going to save my shot but didn't want to risk myself being killed overnight and not getting a chance to use it

Draynth · Post Post #386 (isolation #54) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:06 am

Draynth · Post Post #388 (isolation #55) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:10 am

Oh counterclaim on the kill, ok. Well anyone who does is lying so

Draynth · Post Post #394 (isolation #56) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:56 am

In post 390, A Simple Plan wrote:And the game is practically dead...

I'm inclined to think Draynth is making a bold scum gambit by claiming his kill.

If I was scum I could just as easily sit back and lurk, this game is super inactive

In post 393, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 384, Draynth wrote:Just FYI I was the one who shot KaiserB, I'm a one shot town vig. I thought he might'be been an anti-town role. I was going to save my shot but didn't want to risk myself being killed overnight and not getting a chance to use it

Why did u think kaiser was scum?

2 reasons.
1) EverydayMuffin was killed N1. It could've been a random kill, but I was inclined to think that it was someone out of the group that I know (Myself, ConManMick, KaiserB and EverydayMuffin all know each other in real life) because whenever we play Werewolf in person we always kill him. I reckoned it was 1 out of Kaiser/ConMan. As it turns out, it was neither and it was just a random kill.
2) He seemed to be forcing the statistics a bit much. I understand now that it was simply him just using the stats to try and lynch the best candidate, at the time it just seemed a little contrived.

Draynth · Post Post #395 (isolation #57) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:46 am

In post 390, A Simple Plan wrote:
I'm inclined to think Draynth is making a bold scum gambit by claiming his kill.

Why are you inclined to think this?

Draynth · Post Post #397 (isolation #58) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:43 am

So basically you think I'm scum overall as opposed to scum claiming the kill, they're two different things IMO.
Also 3) isn't true, I'm pretty sure you're the anti-town role

Draynth · Post Post #413 (isolation #59) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:42 pm

I'm back from V/LA, just been super busy. Apologies

Draynth · Post Post #420 (isolation #60) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:08 pm

Why have you not liked Edos TIP?

Draynth · Post Post #431 (isolation #61) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:52 am

VOTE: ASP
I think this is the best lynch for today

Draynth · Post Post #438 (isolation #62) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:49 am

In post 418, TheIrishPope wrote:Dray is Town, Xay is Town, never really liked Edos this game
VOTE: Edos

In post 437, A Simple Plan wrote:
In post 436, TheIrishPope wrote:Oh I was gonna hammer
But he can hammer he's town anyway

Scum slip?

Draynth · Post Post #449 (isolation #63) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:02 pm

Go for it

Draynth · Post Post #450 (isolation #64) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:03 pm

I'm also annoyed that ASP didn't even claim when he was about to be lynched -_-

Draynth · Post Post #453 (isolation #65) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:05 am

Ok well I'm a one shot town vig, Xay? Want to claim?

Draynth · Post Post #490 (isolation #66) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:16 am

Are you serious

Draynth · Post Post #491 (isolation #67) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:16 am

Second time in two days I was lynched without a chance to respond whatsoever

Draynth · Post Post #492 (isolation #68) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:17 am

Well, GG I guess

Draynth · Post Post #495 (isolation #69) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:22 am

In post 493, Edosurist wrote:Draynth, had you come and claimed town, I probably would've said I was actually cult trying to draw a town claim.

LYLO was stacked against you, though. I had 2/3 chance to win, and I knew the setup.

I did claim town, I assume you mean more recently though haha
Yeah I had a feeling that I was left against 2 anti -town roles

Draynth · Post Post #496 (isolation #70) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:23 am

In post 494, Edosurist wrote:Also, the play by your fellow townies which put you into this position was a little lackluster.

Meh, I played this game pretty awfully too

Draynth · Post Post #498 (isolation #71) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:30 am

Hehe, yeah I guess so