Hi. I'm Mandie. I like taking long hikes with my dog, reading (currently on the 5th book of the Outlander series), video games, and genealogy.
I was on the site forever ago, it seems, but I came back last month after a 2 1/2 year hiatus.
*waves*
In post 20, Firebringer wrote:In post 18, Starbuck wrote:Hi. I'm Mandie. I like taking long hikes with my dog, reading (currently on the 5th book of the Outlander series), video games, and genealogy.
I was on the site forever ago, it seems, but I came back last month after a 2 1/2 year hiatus.
*waves*
Random irrelevant question: What kind of dog do you have and how old?
In post 21, Firebringer wrote:In post 19, Starbuck wrote:I think Titus (who I just recently played a game or so with) and Malakittens may be the only people that I actually know.
You finished a game with me not too long ago.
You were scum with OceanWind.
In post 22, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 18, Starbuck wrote:
Hi. I'm Mandie. I like taking long hikes with my dog, reading (currently on the 5th book of the Outlander series), video games, and genealogy.
I was on the site forever ago, it seems, but I came back last month after a 2 1/2 year hiatus.
*waves*
Are you in the Navy?
In post 33, TellTaleHeart wrote:x.x
Didn't mean to be invasive. I saw you lived in Jacksonville and I know they have a big navy base there (my uncle was stationed there once). The school you list in your profile also made me think you had some sort of military connection.
Jacksonville's a nice town, I remember liking it.
In post 32, Titus wrote:Let's play flavor 20 questions. Who wants to go first?
Ooh. Let's do military speak. What color is the sky Starbuck?
In post 117, CuddlyKitteh wrote:I'd rather not see fluff from Starbuck, at least get us some coffee on the house.
In post 202, CuddlyKitteh wrote:Do me a favor, but let titus and I actually engage with each other than answer questions for her, please and thanks.
I have a lot of experience re:titus. So getting in my way might actually hurt my read on her because I was wrong last game because I jumped to an early townread on her, but then when I finally started to scum read her I ended up being vigged before I could elaborate on it. :\
~M
In post 262, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 240, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 222, Firebringer wrote:CUddleyKitteh, so are you the dog head or that evil cat head in the picture?
Hey sweetie, could you please make a post telling me what your alignment is? I'm asking for a full sentence saying if you're town or scum.
Radiant and Starbuck, I would also like this from you please. :3
In post 152, Titus wrote:Nope. More like once everyone claims flavor my night action becomes infinitely trackable.
In post 193, CuddlyKitteh wrote:When here's the thing. The way you are going about it feels like one giant distraction from scum-hunting. If it was role-related why not just say "hey guys my role needs us to flavor claim. If we can do that it would be great". Instead you turned something that was easily 1-2 pages max into something that's going to be 8 pages or more.
In post 230, Frozen Jeanne wrote:No. People here always call me a 'he', so I don't see why I should.
In post 251, Frozen Jeanne wrote:I'm getting tired of trying to help town out and being called a villain because of it.
In post 272, Frozen Jeanne wrote:You are clearly more interested in believing scum over believing me, so don't ever ask me for read/opinion ever again, and follow scum instead. >.>
In post 288, Frozen Jeanne wrote:@TTH Then she should give warnings to all of us, for you are all implying that I am stupid for scumreading kitteh. You may not say it directly, but it's there.
In post 292, Titus wrote:In post 285, TellTaleHeart wrote:I'm not the arbiter of what people can and can't do. That would be farside, and she'll probably give you a warning for that post.
I'm saying what I'm saying because I think you're town, I also think there's a good chance Malakittens is town, and I think there are a ~few~ other people who need to start talking.
Concur with this.
For once I have few problems with anyone posting and I am leaning towards RC and Starbuck scum.
In post 298, Titus wrote:I am policy lynching you if you don't stop the woah is me.
In post 313, Frozen Jeanne wrote:Oh, and answer me: do you want the town to lose? For I am pretty sure you are given the way you're blindly trusting her.
In post 411, Frozen Jeanne wrote:she knows jeanne and insisting on a policy lynch
In post 487, Firebringer wrote:In post 483, Suzune wrote:It has not been too terrible
Too much drama
Its honestly becoming site wide problem, and is making the games much less enjoyable.
In post 912, TellTaleHeart wrote:I've been sitting here waiting very patiently for anything even remotely resembling an attempt at content and Starbuck has padded her catch up posts while artfully working to avoid providing any. It's mostly a compilation of quips that blend in with the general annoyance at the Frozen Jeanne hydra without providing a definitive read. That little blurb about Firebringer is another crack at an "opinion" but it falls really flat in that the case is mostly misstated and the safe, negative position is taken.
In post 521, Firebringer wrote:Like if you want to make a case for players not engaging or hunting you should be looking at RC and Starbucks.
They are literally being inactive.
Though I hate to lynch players for being inactive, it gives us zero information.
In post 535, Titus wrote:In post 530, Starbuck wrote:In post 202, CuddlyKitteh wrote:Do me a favor, but let titus and I actually engage with each other than answer questions for her, please and thanks.
I have a lot of experience re:titus. So getting in my way might actually hurt my read on her because I was wrong last game because I jumped to an early townread on her, but then when I finally started to scum read her I ended up being vigged before I could elaborate on it. :\
~M
I'm not generally cool with these type of statements because it feels like someone trying to squash conversation.
Everything she said there was true. TBH, I thought she visited me and that's why she died. I was shifting bricks. I was thankful Mario had the busted guilty there.
In post 546, TellTaleHeart wrote:An obvious weakness is that Starbuck and Radiant are near the bottom.
In post 547, CuddlyKitteh wrote:I am unsure on the technicality of this but wouldn't scum be a member of town too? This could be scum!you trying to finding a loophole around this so I think you should rephrase that by clearly stating your alignment.In post 532, Starbuck wrote:In post 262, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 240, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 222, Firebringer wrote:CUddleyKitteh, so are you the dog head or that evil cat head in the picture?
Hey sweetie, could you please make a post telling me what your alignment is? I'm asking for a full sentence saying if you're town or scum.
Radiant and Starbuck, I would also like this from you please. :3
I am a member of the Town.
- S
In post 562, CuddlyKitteh wrote:Nope, but I don't really see how you only have 'one' townread. I mean there's enough content to at least have two at the very least.
In post 622, Frozen Jeanne wrote:In post 611, Elyse wrote:In post 583, Suzune wrote:
Elyse I find it interesting that you only write long posts that have scumhunting in them when they are about fire. Almost all your posts so far have been about fire. It is an interesting observation, otherwise your posting style is not my favourite because you look locked in something and that seems so not townie to me. So how you feeling about other people?
I am townreading everyone else except RC and Starbuck.
w8 how different is this from what FB did ? :/ you just put aside inactives and town readed everyone else?
-Frozen
In post 714, Frozen Jeanne wrote:In post 706, Titus wrote:In post 698, Frozen Jeanne wrote:In post 696, Titus wrote:RC Starbuck and FJ
so just start explaining.
RC voted elyse
starbuck is not here atm
and we are scum reading you
this is your best case against scums?
-Frzoen
RC hasn't been here. Nor has Starbuck. You're acting scummy by refusing to quantify your Mala push.
Everyone else is moderately townie.
and pardon me. I'm pushing mala? I'm pushing their hydra because one head is scummy enough.
so you scum read inactives?
oh god. are you even trying. I mean seriously your showing yourself as a high mentor to jeanne this whole game. but your not even trying to find scum yourself.
-Frozen
In post 733, Frozen Jeanne wrote:Orly? Now you play that card. I see everyone agreeing with her on me being scum.
In post 741, CuddlyKitteh wrote:TBH Titus, I'd rather lynch FJ then Fire. For two reasons actually;
1. I really want to think you're town, but I feel like paranoia will eat me again this game. last time I let you guide me onto a lynch you diverted me off your scum partner and onto a shiny mislynch. So I'm scared that's what you could be doing again and honestly if that's the case I'm jut going to be so pissed at myself.
2. Mainly because I really can't stand FJ's tunnel, noise and they are really just a big distraction at this point.
I don't understand why they are saying they like my posts and they are somewhat town, but willing to ignore that and focus on gut to go after me. It's like it doesn't make any sense and even I wouldn't just 'trust' my gut like that especially if someone's posts look town even though my gut hates this said person.
~M
In post 747, CuddlyKitteh wrote:I really don't get this hydra at all. at all. Unless I'm misreading this I don't understand how you're still going after my lynch if Jeanne thinks I'm scum, but you're reading me as null.
Still don't get this at all.
In post 991, Titus wrote:Scum are counted as members of town for lynching.
A Townie (also known as Citizen, Townsperson, Villager, etc.) is a player with a pro-Town Win Condition. Due to ambiguity, "Townie" has been known to refer to any pro-Town player who has no extraordinary abilities or simply any pro-Town player.
In post 767, Frozen Jeanne wrote:and next time don't quote a post of mine and tell all the thing Jeanne said against you because we are two different persons in one slot. not two slots which are playing by one person.
In post 791, CuddlyKitteh wrote:I've already gave my thoughts on fire and his recent 780 is strengthening my scum read on him. It's something I see scum who doesn't really know how to place themselves in the game do, they pop in with a few reads that doesn't have much content in them which gives an impression that he's trying to work the game out but at the same time isn't interacting with other players. However, he is on VLA which doesn't allow him time to post much. Regardless,
VOTE: Firebringer
In post 807, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Elyse
Anyway, most of what I said earlier still applies. Townreading everyone who posts and just scumreading lurkers, incredibly insincere.
I wasn't really on FJ for alignment reasons anyway.
In post 817, Frozen Jeanne wrote:Why so defensive? BECAUSE LYNCHING A CONFIRMED TOWNIE IS BAD, AND TO MYSELF I AM A CONFIRMED TOWNIE.
In post 831, Frozen Jeanne wrote:In post 815, Jeanne11 wrote:Asking again, are you happy with a mislynch?
How about it, scum! Titus? Do you want our mislynch because it helps you win?
In post 856, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 824, Starbuck wrote:Hey ladies, about halfway through reading. I'll have some substance up for you tonight.
Pinky swears.
I can forgive getting stood up, but violating the sanctity of the pinky swear?
That's just low.
In post 862, Firebringer wrote:In post 861, Starbuck wrote:Alrighty, you awesome folks, I'm back. Thank you so much for your patience. This last week was hella stressful in both good and bad ways.
Nice to have you back.
What you thinking right now in far as peoples alignments?
In post 864, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 861, Starbuck wrote:Also, how many people just kind of glazed over this?
In post 152, Titus wrote:Nope. More like once everyone claims flavor my night action becomes infinitely trackable.
Is there a particular reason why it needs further exploration right now?
In post 869, TellTaleHeart wrote:
Because you're spending your time making these kinds of information-less garbage posts instead of elaborating on why you're scumreading her.
In post 871, Frozen Jeanne wrote:In post 860, Firebringer wrote:In post 857, Frozen Jeanne wrote:@FB you have 3 days to convince the town in your wagon that he is wrong or I will join your wagon. You did nothing for the game and that's scummy ...
This post just screams like "I am going to lynch you regardless of what you say"
Why don't you just vote me anyways, I think you kind of are waiting for nothing right now.
when I said that? I'm saying you must start making progression in game - fast , which it seems your slightly doing better...
whats your current reads again? everyone-but-yourself scummy yet ?
-Frozen
In post 872, Titus wrote:In post 869, TellTaleHeart wrote:
Because you're spending your time making these kinds of information-less garbage posts instead of elaborating on why you're scumreading her.
You're a woman after my heart.
@starbuck, the why is answered in the post.
In post 914, TellTaleHeart wrote:Now that we're down to the wire and weighing lynches, I think Starbuck is far superior to RC or Firebringer because the noise to signal ratio on her is infinitesimally close to zero. The same can't be said of the alternatives. What's more insidious is that Starbuck's is dressed up to look like she's contributing but, in reality, she's not.
In post 965, Frozen Jeanne wrote:But I'm kind of surprised that Star show up right after the accusations ...
In post 922, RadiantCowbells wrote:Kim Possible, 1-shot neighbourizer.
Lynch TTH. I think Elyse could still easily be scum but there's a standoffishness to TTH here that doesn't mesh at all.
In post 998, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey, let's lynch Suzune friends!
In post 1004, Frozen Jeanne wrote:We have same reads. We just don't have the same personality.
and its not frustration. Its Jeanne usual ATE. Check out one of her town games and you see what I'm saying.
-Frozen
In post 1007, Titus wrote:Can we do Starbuck or Firebringer?
In post 1014, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't think Starbuck's scum in spite of the opportunism of her scumread on me.
In post 1049, RadiantCowbells wrote:I can see many good reasons.
In post 974, Elyse wrote:In post 914, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 911, RadiantCowbells wrote:Then fucking vote me because if you're going to sit and let people vote me without doing anything about it you might as well be doing it yourself.
Quit being a drama queen.
Now that we're down to the wire and weighing lynches, I think Starbuck is far superior to RC or Firebringer because the noise to signal ratio on her is infinitesimally close to zero. The same can't be said of the alternatives. What's more insidious is that Starbuck's is dressed up to look like she's contributing but, in reality, she's not.
I could also vote for Starbuck. I agree with you there.
In post 915, RadiantCowbells wrote:Now that we're down to the wire and weighing lynches, I think Starbuck is far superior to RC or Firebringer because the noise to signal ratio on her is infinitesimally close to zero. The same can't be said of the alternatives. What's more insidious is that Starbuck's is dressed up to look like she's contributing but, in reality, she's not.
No, screw this.
By saying you don't care about it you're implicitly giving approval to my lynch.
Why? What's your read on me?
VOTE: TTH
This is a shit vote. TTH is so town.
I'm fine with Starbuck or RC or Fire. 1-shot neighborizer could be scum easily and it's not helpful if it's town.
In post 1066, Elyse wrote:In post 1063, RadiantCowbells wrote:@Starbuck
You haven't really done anything that makes me think you're town. But now I only want to lynch RC.
In post 1075, Elyse wrote:866 is entirely fluff. Your responses to Jeanne aren't relevant to scumhunting at all. 906 is the same as is 952. You also haven't provided a read on the slot despite talking about FJ in almost every response.
You say it's "anti-town" of people to refuse to answer Firebringer - again, not a stance.
There are bunch of "I agree with people who say this" and "I like this" which aren't helpful.
You said that you didn't like how RC dropped a vote with no content but then said it was null.
The rest of 990 is more complaining about Jeanne. 997 is pointless. It didn't need any more discussion after 992.
The first original thought I see is in 1001 when you said you didn't like Cuddleh taking advantage of Fire's V/LA, but you still haven't taken a stance on their alignment or anyone else's for that matter. The rest of that post is fluff.
Finally we get some reads in 1009. But it's only 2, really. A townread on me (lol) and TTH, and no real read on RC, Cuddleh, FJ, Suzune, and Titus. That's ridiculous.
This: "With the size of the player pool, a 1-shot would make sense, especially if he could act as a cop (if we don't have one). However, I can see the side of it being a scum claim, too. It could easily be verifiable, though."
is a giant waffle.
The rest of it is fluff like "Don't self-vote RC! or "did you flavor claim" despite knowing that FJ already claimed Elsa.
1037 is another giant fencesit. I don't know your stances on like, anyone.
In post 1088, Titus wrote:Caught up.
Hate the Elyse wagon. Hate the RC wagon.
Starbuck or Firebringer.
Pick one and only one.
In post 1098, Titus wrote:In post 1096, Starbuck wrote:I'm also not a fan of Titus' open bullying as to who should be lynched today.
Deal with it.
In post 1097, Titus wrote:
@Starbuck, Active lurking and IioA are not scumhunting.
I have cleared everyone else as town and you're not hunting soooo....
In post 1103, Titus wrote:You provide content Starbuck, I will engage you.
Either you lynch me or deal with my reads as how I play. Until you two are flipped, I am voting you.
In post 1109, Titus wrote:In post 1106, Starbuck wrote:And I just sat here all fucking day giving content that you don't even want to recognize. So what makes me think that you'll consider anything that I say in future if you're already dead set on lynching me?
I will consider it, in determining who your buddies are. But isn't not scumhunting. Scumhunting is asking questions, OBSERVING, gathering data and lynching based off that data.
I have asked questions but even more observed your behavior.
In post 1110, Titus wrote:In post 1108, Starbuck wrote:No, it's not. You're actively not engaging me when I just gave quite a few posts worth of content because you don't deem me worthy of engagement. So I stated something to get you to engage, thanks for biting.
I don't deem anyone worthy of engagement. The content does.
You willing to bus FB or not?
In post 1120, Titus wrote:In post 1118, Starbuck wrote:I saw some substance on my read through. It wasn't much, but it was some. Discrediting it as none isn't quite fair.
Facts aren't fair. They just are.
Second, what substance did you think you saw?
In post 1122, Elyse wrote:1. Your responses to FJ were all fluff that did nothing to sort anyone out. You didn't need to say anything. Bringing up that behavior from Jeanne again was unnecessary.
2. Ok we agree here.
3. I'm not saying you shouldn't have defended yourself but you continued to provide nothing relevant to scumhunting here.
4. Okay fine.
5. Exactly, so what's the point of pointing it out? Again, not relevant to scumhunting.
6. That's fine and I expect that in a catchup except you don't have original content along with it.
7. What's the point of calling it out and saying it's null then? It's just more fluff.
8. None of your additional thoughts were relevant to scumhunting.
9. Again, it contributed absolutely nothing to figuring out everyone else's alignments. Do you see a pattern here?
10. How is it disingenuous to say you haven't taken stances when you said you were holding them back?
11. I don't see a townread on Fire, only a townread on me and TTH. And your not sure on RC isn't a read. It's the same as saying you don't know like you did with Titus, FJ, Suzune, and Cuddleh.
12. It's waffley because you said that A) it would make sense B) could be scum and C) is verifiable all in one sentence. That's saying town, scum, either, or in short, absolutely nothing. It's fluff.
13. Your question to FJ "Did you flavor claim?" was pointless considering it again has nothing to do with scumhunting and you already knew the answer because you said you remembered them claiming Elsa like two posts earlier.
14. Your stance on Titus is "she's scummy but her claim is verifiable so idk yet" which is fine but certainly not a hard stance at all. I don't know how you could argue your stance on RC ISN'T fencesitting. And your "turnaround" on Fire is so weak considering the main issue with him is that he isn't scumhunting.
And I think you're getting too hung up on people and their views on you based on inactivity.No one is scumreading you because you were inactive.People formed townreads on most of the active players, leaving people like you and RC as null but definitely not town, so you were still in the lynchpool. Now I am scumreading you because your content has been lackluster, but I wasn't before - I was just not townreading you.
In post 1009, Starbuck wrote:As of right now, at this point in my read, I was seeing what others were saying about you and I, wholeheartedly, dislike the deflection and sheer laziness of the reads list that you gave when asked.However, your 780 gave me a bit more confidence in you as possibly town.
In post 1138, RadiantCowbells wrote:Just about the only bad thing about the slot I can think of is that her scumread on me during the catchup seemed very opportunistic with a wagon so far along on me.
I like her because she's focused on reading others even when under pressure, she doesn't seem to be afraid to make waves by attacking the town's mentality WRT Titus bullying and such, and I don't generally see the case against her. You're welcome to make one.
She's not exactly my bank townread but I'm not close to scumreading her either. Also, I'm heavily scumreading 3 other slots even besides yourself (Suz, FB, Cuddly) so it doesn't interest me at all.
In post 1129, Starbuck wrote:My not sure on RC was more null-leaning town than null-leaning scum. I still think there's a chance for RC to be scum given their role. So it's not the same as my absolute not sures on the other 4 to me.
In post 1162, TellTaleHeart wrote:I can't.Which is exactly the point.
Starbuck uses a lot of words and takes up a lot of space making dry comments about events, but they aren't particularly informative of Starbuck's methods to form reads. When you try to dig into the meat of her content, I find that the reads themselves are either woefully unsupported or just downright awful like that Elyse vote.
In post 1163, RadiantCowbells wrote:So you're saying that most of what she posts is just shallow, reactive commentary?
In post 1164, TellTaleHeart wrote:Precisely