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Like this is so hard to argue because I see where you're coming from here Ranger.
This is precisely what I'd do as scum. I think you're misinterpreting my intent with regards to the jump off where I was just fucking pissed at Beeboy.
That shouldn't be seen as a strategic maneuever because I was pissed as fuck.
I would not, however, have done it as scum because I would have wanted to get the max towncred for NM's bus.
He was getting lynched no matter what with his piss poor effort. I would not have sacrificed any amount of that juicy towncred.
I would not have wanted NM alive, in other words.
But, jump in and bus the shit out of my partner and coast off the towncred it exactly what I'd do as scum.
And it's essentially what's happened here. So I see why you see things that way.
But I'm town, and you need to believe that before we're going to get anywhere productive.
And yeah, NM didn't hammer me. He dropped the ball on that. Doesn't mean I'm not town.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1757, Ranger wrote:
Because in order to win, you have to navigate:RadiantCowbells wrote:why's it suicide to double bus in this setup? one of you gets vigged, other is in the clear.
-The town-controlled lynch D1.
-The town-controlled laser D2.
-The town-controlled lynch D2.
-The town-controlled laser D3.
-The town controlled lynch D3.
At minimum.
With bad luck regarding protections, you could theoretically get into a position where town getsan extra laser and lynch.
That's FIVE town-controlled chances to kill you at minimum, potentially seven! Seven chances, with one confirmed town player.
That's a gauntlet.
Someone like YOU, Radiant, would try it. Discard the weak scumbuddy, play solo, get towncred, let town eat themselves apart, and cruise to the win.
Someone like BlueBloodedToffee would not.
This is also something I apply to Errantparabola: Errant is a reasonably conservative scum player. Errant would know the odds would be against them if Not_Mafia died so early, which is another reason why I think it's you, not Errant.
BBT has no issues bussing their scumpartners for the record.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1724, RadiantCowbells wrote:Still think Bulba was town, still don't like how EP has started the day.
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like you've never lynched me as scum yet, true.
but you've never lynched me as town.
and when you're talking to a person who 30-1 when getting lynched is town, that's something to be proud of.
pls stahp.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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like there's no arguments that I can make when I know full well that my scum game is virtually indistinguishable from my town game, and the NM not hammering thing is pretty relevant.
but I'm town so you gotta get your shit together.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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like if there's anything that you should believe and take to heart as to why I'm town here
it's that this is not how I would approach the game as scum.
as scum I favour wallposting and arguing because i'm damn good at selling garbage cases and taking a few slight errors all the way to the bank
but I see the limitations of that when I'm actually town and play a lot quieter.
like there's a bunch of things that I might be doing if I were scum here, but this is absolutely not it. My honour.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I don't know.
I can't play properly under pressure.
I'm trying to get you to leave me alone so I can get space to breathe and maybe solve this thing.
In post 592, Bulbazoor wrote:I care more about gaining info than pleasing you by asking for your rival to get shot.
stuff like this.
he actively tried to deflate the beeboy/me conflict but in a way that didn't feel profiteery at all. I can't say the latter about EP.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1796, Errantparabola wrote:In post 1793, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're claiming that you townread me and scumread her and yet you're talking to Ranger and not me.
why?
because you're not producing content that I deem reply worthy.
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what I'm doing here is way more of a towntell than shoving walls down your face.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1152, RadiantCowbells wrote:In fairness, I don't like to manipulate people emotionally.
I just felt the need to do it this one game.
I will never play the way I did this way again. The only game I've played to be emotionally manipulative to this extent was 184.
It's both too easy and too unpleasant, I think.
Manipulating people's emotions in this way makes me feel dirty.
I only do it when I'm super invested in winning a game or super pissed off.
And to 'act' resigned/frustrated like I am now requires me to make myself feel resigned/frustrated which doesn't feel good and so I avoid it.
It's hard to put into words but it just feels manipulative in a more horrible way than just winning, and after 558 which ripped me apart on the inside, it's eh.
then again I'm just a hyper emotional person and maybe not everyone would have it be as big of a deal for them: but that's sort of where I stand on the issue.
and frankly I can win games without trying to make people feel like shit for scumreading me as scum.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I'm mid reread right now.
I don't like EP's play today. I agree with Ranger that it feels like he's been trying to play both sides.
He claims to be scumreading me but hasn't at all tried to convince me to vote elsewhere nor basically talked to me at all.
His ridiculously strong townread on me that mysteriously disappeared was also pretty unsupported.
He's been saying that he thinks I'm town and Ranger is scum but he's been trying to get Ranger to vote me, which doesn't jive at all.
What are your thoughts?
And no, I do not. I used it last night.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Nor would it be a good idea even if I did.
Even if all 3 of us did, we can't know for sure that scum wouldn't have double shot and managed to wring out a win by sniping bunkers.
We lynch today.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I think that scum were not expecting NM to survive from the get go. Associatives there hold little value, though I note Soren's were really bad.
I do think that Ranger's vote switch felt sort of bad. Not sure what to do about that. Doesn't outweigh the rest of what I have at the moment.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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5. Say you're town. Would town you really be convinced by the shit that's RC is pulling right now? I say no.
because you're not producing content that I deem reply worthy.
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and that he's generally attacking me more than Ranger while declaring me a townread.
little explanation of where townread originates, etc.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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this is just a blatant lie.
if i had to evaluate both of Ranger's and RC's recent plays, they would both be scummy to some degree. I said earlier that my vote on Ranger was founded on the belief that RC had early play that I believed came from town. I unvoted because the townread I had on RC could have possibly been coming from scum, knowing RC's capabilities of being universally townread quickly (a possibility that I refused to consider until RC's abysmal late game play).
you've said this whole game that you've thought I'm town.
I'm town. now all of a sudden ranger's scumreading me and your vote changes.
what gives?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1836, Apricity wrote:That was actually a pretty bad post >.< Before that I was going to put the EP/Ranger arguing as TvT.
I'm town dudette.
Seriously.
Like, when I'm scum my ISO is essentially flawless but you'd look at me and just have niggling feelings that I'm scum because something's just not right.
I can't outplay gut.
Conversely, when I'm town my ISO can be screwed and often scummy as hell but you should have a gut feeling that I'm here trying to solve the game.
Which is it, Apri?2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Apri, I'm going to ask you to trust me in a way that you're going to know that you rationally shouldn't but you should go ahead and do it anyway because I think you know in your heart that I'm town.
I want you to vote Ranger so I can confirm myself as town.
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Like I can go through all my scum wins and you'll find the same pattern.
My play is objectively conftown but people having bad gut pings and they want to lynch me and they don't understand why.
RC, my gut is saying both you and ika are scum.
^Titus.
I can find other examples.
I think that right now you feel like all of us 'should' be town, but my ISO has holes and the NM thing and I've played like shit and because of that you believe that I'm the most likely to be scum.
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I'm sorry.
I townread 3dice more than others at the end but not quite.
Truth is that my reads are severely handicapped when it comes to people who scumread me.
I get emotionally involved and my reads on them turn to shit and sadly Bulba and Soren/EP were sufficiently towny that I didn't get any other impulses to go on.
I'm sorry, I played like shit. I've played like shit before and I'll play like shit in the future. But I don't think we can win this unless you trust me.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Believe or don't but I would feel like total shit for talking to you the way that I'm talking to you as scum. It wouldn't be worth it for me.
I want to be free to do my thing without you scumreading me for it. I think this is the only way we have a chance of winning.
Please. I'm town, I swear.
Doing that doesn't conftown you though. You could be scum and just not hammer yet, then quickhammer whenever you felt like it. I also have no guarantee that you'll do as you say and not vote Ranger.
You don't.
And if I could quickhammer I would as scum. I wouldn't prolong it to torment you.
The point is that I want you to prove me as town because it will change the playing field in a way that will allow me to be a thousand times more useful.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I'm already in a position to win by playing EP and Ranger against each other.
If I were scum I'd just let them duke it out.
I'm asking this now because I need time as conftown to finish this game.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Look.
You should be aware that from the get go I was trying to be your friend.
I don't like making friends as scum. I don't do community building as scum.
I keep my distance because I'm an emotional person and betraying people's trust hurts me on the inside.
I hate LyLo as scum. My heart goes out for town regardless of which alignment I play. I feel like shit when town loses even in games that I'm not involved in.
I would rather lose this game as scum than win this by appealing to you in the way I'm doing this.
scumRC is most certainly ballsy enough to ask for that.
I'm ballsy enough.
But I wouldn't.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1858, Apricity wrote:EP is town without a doubt for that unvote. I need to step away from this for a minute.
No, he's not.
He may see it as extremely undesirable for me to be cleared.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1857, Errantparabola wrote:I am almost positive that you are trustworthy enough not to lie about your personality to win a game but I don't see what's preventing you from "doing your thing" as it is.
Why would "doing your thing" make you subject to getting scumread?
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What is the alternative, EP?
I'm town. I've gone far down roads that I avoid like the plague as scum.
This is the most stressful game I've ever played, on any site or IRL >.<
This is true.
I would not be intentionally putting you on the spot and stressing you out if I were scum.
I am doing so, 100%, because I think I can get through to you.
I really don't want to lose this after I fucked up so much.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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We have 3 hours to solve the game.
Either of you can prove that I'm town.
Nothing you can do will help more than doing so.
this is basically where i'm at regarding you RC. so there isn't really that much difference between post you being confirmed and right now.
Selfvote then. I will not hammer.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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I'm always hiding things.
having a hard time believing that's the reason for your 180.
i'm also still kind of in shock that you didn't actually have a good reason for that shit you just pulled.
If I did have a good reason I'll explain it in postgame.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1897, Apricity wrote:In post 1896, Errantparabola wrote:Nothing reply worthy really.
Pretty sure most questions would be answered by my iso.
Im putting my schoolwork off as well.
Where are you at re. RC and Ranger? Who would you vote for?
I'm confirmed sweetheart :\2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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In post 1914, Apricity wrote:In post 1911, RadiantCowbells wrote:But he unvoted which shows that he's somewhat insecure about it.
Do you think that's more towny or scummy?
Neither, but it COULD show that he was insecure about having voted immdiately after his partner.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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