Micro 574 — Space Invaders Mafia 4 — Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

like there's no arguments that I can make when I know full well that my scum game is virtually indistinguishable from my town game, and the NM not hammering thing is pretty relevant.

but I'm town so you gotta get your shit together.

[Ranger]

You've really fallen short of the promise you showed in Blitz 21 in every game since then

Well, there I was 100% on the mafia.
I can't do that every game. I average 50-66%. (White Flag for instance is a good example: 2/3, including you, for 66%.)
This game already has a flipped mafiate, though, and had that before I came in.

As a result, my accuracy this game was either going to be 100%, or 0%.

I cannot be right 100% of the time. As a result, there will always be misreads. There will always be mis-steps. You have to look at the overall picture to see how I'm doing. Overall, I maintain the above percentages, but for every game I have 75-100% accuracy, that means I have another game where I have lower-than-50%.

I'm not going to leave the vote there blindly and log out for the night. I believe deadline's before tomorrow night, so if I did, I'd be committing to a vote either winning or losing the entire game. I'm staying here. I'm going to read. I recognize there's one strong sign for Errant being scum, and cannot afford to ignore it. However, currently, I still think it's you.

[RadiantCowbells]

like if there's anything that you should believe and take to heart as to why I'm town here
it's that this is not how I would approach the game as scum.
as scum I favour wallposting and arguing because i'm damn good at selling garbage cases and taking a few slight errors all the way to the bank
but I see the limitations of that when I'm actually town and play a lot quieter.
like there's a bunch of things that I might be doing if I were scum here, but this is absolutely not it. My honour.

[Marquis]

DAY 03, VOTECOUNT 05

[0]

Apricity

—

[1]

Ranger

— Errantparabola

[L-2]

[1]

RadiantCowbells

— Ranger

[L-2]

[1]

Errantparabola

— RadiantCowbells

[L-2]

[1]

NOT VOTING

— Apricity

With

[4]

alive, it takes

[3]

to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-03-06 23:00:00)

(Sun Mar 6 @ 11:00:00 PM EST).

NOTES

Laser Cannon

Apricity has already fired.

[Ranger]

like there's no arguments that I can make when I know full well that my scum game is virtually indistinguishable from my town game, and the NM not hammering thing is pretty relevant. but I'm town so you gotta get your shit together.

Then give me something to focus on.

Frankly, the game would be easier if Errant were scum. Errant's antagonizing me. You're going after Errant, so if you were town, then all I'd have to do is OMGUS. With regards to Errant, OMGUS is potentially an actually-valid tell regarding Errant's patterns with me. But I don't feel it. I don't see it as actually being true.

Why am I so hard a townread?
You were shown wrong on Bulbazoor, what off of ME makes me look town to you?

What makes Errant scum?
This is the kind of thing I need from you.


And while we're discussing things I need, from Errant it's basically the opposite.
Every piece of meta you've used has said, "RC's null, not scum". What makes him town? Every piece of defense you've used boils down to, "RC's just not scum" without actually giving me

why

. (Yes, I'm aware of the irony given my reputation, but that's me and this is YOU.)

What on

earth

do you see in me that is not my town self?
I know, for RC I'm asking why I'm so strongly town, and I actually

do

think myself strongly town, but I still need to SEE from him why all the same, and when it comes to you, I desperately need to see this, more even than I do from him, because it is some serious dissonance from what I've seen from you: you've seen me as town many times. You know this is my town play. You've seen my performance as scum. Even if that was not a standard scum game of mine, it was still nothing like my play this game. So

where

does that read come from?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't know.
I can't play properly under pressure.
I'm trying to get you to leave me alone so I can get space to breathe and maybe solve this thing.

I care more about gaining info than pleasing you by asking for your rival to get shot.

stuff like this.
he actively tried to deflate the beeboy/me conflict but in a way that didn't feel profiteery at all. I can't say the latter about EP.

[Ranger]

And...reading back from the beginning.

Soren's RVS still feels town. 12 in particular.

Radiant's posting still feels cheeky.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't understand how you can interpret this as anywhere close to cheeky.

I'm tired.

[Ranger]

I can't play properly under pressure.

Neither can I. Pressure has always caused my accuracy to plummet. I adapted listing to avoid pressure in the first place. Playing as lazily as possible to avoid all that stress, which caused both my life and my reads to suffer.

But here we are anyway.

[Ranger]

I don't understand how you can interpret this as anywhere close to cheeky.

Early posting. Posting now? Definitely not cheeky. Talking early-game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Cheeky = confident? yeah that's pretty standard for me.

especially when I'm feeling really confident about a game.

[Ranger]

Rrrg.

UNVOTE: RadiantCowbells.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I HATE YOU RIGHT NOW, RC?

You're like, almost definitely scum right now and your case for not being scum is basically "I know I look like scum, but I'm not, honest" which is like the ultimate AtE, and yet

I'm still unvoting you

.

[Ranger]

Oh.

188.

VOTE: Errantparabola.

[RadiantCowbells]

still pretty sure but I want to use tomorrow to do a bunch of peaceful rereading so

UNVOTE:

[Ranger]

I just realized.

Here's the thing.
You're a capable player.
I have no doubt that you, as potential scum, would get acquainted with the game state and THEN read "from the top" and give a progression of your reads, so that we think that you are reading organically from the top but you've actually already understood the nature of the game state as it is in the present.

This is what Errant's catch-up at the beginning looks like.

[Errantparabola]

it's that this is not how I would approach the game as scum.
as scum I favour wallposting and arguing because i'm damn good at selling garbage cases and taking a few slight errors all the way to the bank
but I see the limitations of that when I'm actually town and play a lot quieter.

I know full well that my scum game is virtually indistinguishable from my town game

i'm physically and emotionally exhausted right now.
this gave me a bit of a chuckle.
i'll try and continue to go line by line with you ranger because i enjoy it.

[Ranger]

Give me about an hour to get home and i'll start my catchup.

59 minutes later, Errant

posted

a post. Not started, posted.

[Errantparabola]

Give me about an hour to get home and i'll start my catchup.

59 minutes later, Errant

posted

a post. Not started, posted.

Are you insinuating that I lied about real life circumstances to gain an advantage ingame?
That actually stings a bit.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're claiming that you townread me and scumread her and yet you're talking to Ranger and not me.

why?

[Errantparabola]

And? You don't see the evolution of certainty?

I see it. it's carefully constructed.

Why not? It does no harm to have your vote on. You can switch votes without needing to unvote. In the mean time, it also serves to...be 'proof' that you are not attacking both sides. (This is something you and RC have both done: "Ranger, I'm voting Errant, I'm not setting both of you up"; "Ranger, I'm voting you, how is that setting you both up?")

conceded.

In that situation, what I would be doing is not voting either and openly reading.

you're dodging the meat and potatoes of this question. say you think the other person is scummier, right? do you ignore the scummy things that the other person does because you don't want to be seen as "slinging mud at both sides?"

Yes, I am. This is as town as my town game gets. Last time you and I were in a situation like this, I even caught you for not realizing I was town. In contrast, RC has admitted his play this game is indistinguishable from his actions if he were scum. So I have every right to suggest you are at fault here. Apricity gets excused, for not having experience with me, same as in that game how AlwaysInnocent got excused. You lacked the excuse then, you still lack it now. This is where the doubt comes from.

In short? It's a player-based burden of proficiency: when interacting with me, you should know better. Yet here you are.

You are continuing to suggest that my reasons for scumreading you are based on meta that is null, and as a result inexcusable based on my extended experience with you. This is false. show me a shred of corroborating evidence.

Frankly, the game would be easier if Errant were scum. Errant's antagonizing me. You're going after Errant, so if you were town, then all I'd have to do is OMGUS. With regards to Errant, OMGUS is potentially an actually-valid tell regarding Errant's patterns with me. But I don't feel it. I don't see it as actually being true.

here's what i read from this. "Look if I were scum, would I take the slow route or would I jump on the dude who's getting attacked by the other person? It makes no sense for me to take the slow route as scum, therefore I am not scum."
and you're disguising it as some offhand statement.

Every piece of meta you've used has said, "RC's null, not scum". What makes him town? Every piece of defense you've used boils down to, "RC's just not scum" without actually giving me why. (Yes, I'm aware of the irony given my reputation, but that's me and this is YOU.)

I don't understand. If you're scum, and RC's null, doesn't that make him town?

comes to you, I desperately need to see this, more even than I do from him, because it is some serious dissonance from what I've seen from you: you've seen me as town many times. You know this is my town play. You've seen my performance as scum. Even if that was not a standard scum game of mine, it was still nothing like my play this game. So where does that read come from?

1. You're wrong on RC's actions post BBT death, despite claiming to be intimately acquainted with RC's play. You're creating a scum motive for RC out of nothing.
2. Your trajectory towards RC being scum is incredibly contrived. To take your words, you're pulling the "no u" argument by suggesting that my own catchup was planned out, except that none of my own actions in game reflect that. Unlike your actions.
3. Townslip. I've gone over this.
4. In addition to your RC case being contrived, it's also flawed. Evidence that your scumcase is faked is that you claim to be so intimately aquainted with RC's meta and yet it's such a logically bad case.
5. Say you're town. Would town you really be convinced by the shit that's RC is pulling right now? I say no.

[Ranger]

Are you insinuating that I lied about real life circumstances to gain an advantage ingame?

No, I'm insinuating that you

didn't

, and that the

exact

time of one hour indicates you had already done work on the game...which is the scum profile you were trying to project onto me.

[Errantparabola]

You're claiming that you townread me and scumread her and yet you're talking to Ranger and not me.

why?

because you're not producing content that I deem reply worthy.
UNVOTE:

[RadiantCowbells]

You're claiming that you townread me and scumread her and yet you're talking to Ranger and not me.

why?

because you're not producing content that I deem reply worthy.
UNVOTE:

*shrug*
what I'm doing here is way more of a towntell than shoving walls down your face.

[Errantparabola]

Are you insinuating that I lied about real life circumstances to gain an advantage ingame?

No, I'm insinuating that you

didn't

, and that the

exact

time of one hour indicates you had already done work on the game...which is the scum profile you were trying to project onto me.

I have no idea what you're trying to say, but it doesn't matter right now.
If it matters to you, the timestamp on that post is 2:45. School for me ends at 3. It takes 15 minutes for me to drive home.
I probably started catching up when I got home.
I can't believe I'm arguing about such a trivial thing.

[RadiantCowbells]

let's just agree that I can talk either of you down no sweat.

that doesn't mean I should, that doesn't mean that me doing so would somehow make me town.