Micro 597: TTH's Normal Micro (Game Over)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:11 am

You can replace out if you have a problem with it.
I have the respect not to in when literally any other person on this site prefers not to play with me.
you don't deserve that kind of treatment.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:14 am

oh noes.
when your behaviour comes to light I won't even need to WOTC you.
I'll just tolerate you while I need to.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #55 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:26 pm

VOTE: PK

The way he reacted to me being in the game doesn't feel sincere.

We'll see where this goes from here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #56 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:41 pm

I'm ambivalent about NM.

I think he'll solve himself if we just wait and let him post.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #76 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:02 am

No, that's you.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #233 (isolation #5) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:36 am

VOTE: zzzx

creature's damn right.

and I could easily see the scumteam being PK/Zzzx.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #232 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:36 am

VOTE: zzzx

creature's damn right.

and I could easily see the scumteam being PK/Zzzx.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #247 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:05 am

In post 240, ZZZX wrote:
In post 215, Creature wrote:Personally, I didn't like this reaction. ZZZX defends RC and says that everyone makes mistakes, which is not a good reason. White-knighting RC.

I used to be heavily semi wotc'd or w.e u want to call it. Give everyone a chance because wotc is a fucking toxic system. and is abused

'give everyone a chance'

lol.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #286 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:35 am

VOTE: KainTepes

this became a policy lynch tbh.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #318 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:18 am

because I think he's scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #341 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:30 pm

All the votes on me are terrible.

I'm not going to put an effort into this game until I'm back at L-5.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #345 (isolation #11) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:46 am

Not really.
I didn't really want to play with Creature or KT or PK again.
I'm not replacing because that's basically making excuses for their terrible and/or scummy play.
Lynch off my wagon if I'm lynched.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #348 (isolation #12) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:47 am

^ that's scum actually.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #349 (isolation #13) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:48 am

VOTE: PK

Just lynch him tomorrow.
Go ahead and hammer me and clear my slot.

He's scum. read NY193 for yet another example of my calling him as scum being accurate.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #350 (isolation #14) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:02 am

Like, it's crazy.
In the last year and 3 months I've only been lynched day 1 once.
Congrats on being only the second town in that period who managed to be that bad.

Like I'm usually seen by scum as near impossible to lynch, but not for you guys I guess.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #352 (isolation #15) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:06 am

I don't scumhunt well under stupid pressure.
I'm giving no thoughts besides the PK one which I'm 100% sure is scum, for the record, unless I am given some space.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #354 (isolation #16) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:12 am

In post 353, pisskop wrote:Lynch it.

Its crying

scum.
this isn't how PK would respond if he were town.

It'd be something somewhat similar but a lot more reasoning and shit and a lot less hyberbolic and AtEish.
If he was town who thought I was scum he'd say something more along the lines of 'This isn't town just hurry and lynch he's done this shit in

x

and

y

'.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #357 (isolation #17) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:20 am

'bluffing'.
I don't expect the votes to vanish. I expect to get lynched because this town is terrible.
Whether PK gets lynched tomorrow for it is academic.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #360 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:30 am

But he's scum.

I'm pushing on scum and I'm happy with that.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #370 (isolation #19) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:24 am

I don't scumhunt effectively under pressure.
PK is scum and I've known that since before I was under pressure. You will lynch him tomorrow. He's not strong enough to talk his way out of being lynched after I get lynched.
I've done my piece for the game. If you want more from me lay the fuck off so I can see things objectively.

I wasn't scumhunting because I was sick, dumbass. I wasn't posting anything anywhere.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #374 (isolation #20) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:28 am

I've caught scum and am voting them.
I've done my bit.
And no, I don't scumhunt effectively under pressure. I get omgusy and play bad. I know PK's scum because I had him pinned long before the present situation and I know him well enough to be able to see through it.
I can't determine other people's alignments when under pressure.

Stahp acting like 'town' is in the right because they're in the fucking wrong. I am town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #377 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:36 am

If I get lynched PK will follow me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #378 (isolation #22) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:36 am

Its about convincing everyone that you caught scum.

Funny because PK resents me for being too good at this side of the equation.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #380 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:41 am

just watch.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #382 (isolation #24) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:49 am

I have some advantages that other people don't.

I'll be alright.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #386 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:15 am

I wouldn't be surprised if it was PK-Raisus tbh.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #391 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:00 pm

join me and vote PK.

Lynching someone scummy is better than lynching a lurker, right?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #395 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:05 pm

In post 392, RaisusTheFlammie wrote:For all we know the lurker could also be scum. It's not impossible to see a jmo/PK scumteam with how they've both been acting throughout the game

Why are you trying to push a scumteam including PK but not willing to vote PK?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #397 (isolation #28) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:09 pm

So you're basically agreeing that PK is scum but not being willing to vote him?

That's what's happening here?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #399 (isolation #29) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:11 pm

You're literally doing everything to avoid pushing PK besides calling him town or voting him.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #401 (isolation #30) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:16 pm

Why am I scummy for trying to get you to vote Pisskop?

He's my leading scum read...?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #403 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:20 pm

You haven't expressed any LACK of support for his wagon.

In fact, most of your posts you've agreed that he was scummy.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #407 (isolation #32) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:22 pm

In post 4390, RadiantCowbells wrote:Stop this ATE.

There's absolutely 0 emotional involvement in my push on you.

My push on you is based off of several clear cases that I can put into words.

1) You indirectly defended SRMP, doubtcasted my push, and then later claimed to have been a major proponent of it.
2) You were the first one to remember that Firebringer actualy had a guilty. That leans scum because I'd expect scum to be thinking about it more.
3) My primary scumread outside of you? AJ. Who have you got fucking insane associatives with, dating back to Zulfy replacing out when ABR replaced in? AJ.
4) I'm 100% sure Silverwolf and Ika communicated outside of game in ASOIAF mafia. They were the same alignment, they didn't replace out. Why did they replace out here?
5) I asked you to make a case for Almost50. You said you were scumreading him. I have not heard any such case.
6) You've basically jumped on every available wagon besides for Aj. I can't think of anyone that you've expressed a lack of willingness to vote besides AJ and myself.
7) PoE. I'm fairly sure that Xkyfu and Almost50 are town. I'm reasonably sure that Masquerade is town. I have a slight townread on Cobbler because he replaced the Keyster slot and because of how he reacted to my pressure regarding his A50 vote. That leaves PK/Aj/Robster, and since Robter doesn't make much sense with either of you, well, here we are.

This goes well beyond this one game.

Youve only validated his narcisism with your vote.

I have no issues losing to you if you're scum.
I do have an issue with thinking that you're not scum based on all of the above and many more factors.

Even your AtE here feels forced. You're blatantly misrepresenting my push on you.
You haven't even answered my point about you. You're flying out with really big words of AtE that don't really seem to fit your style and feel like you trying to emulate FA and AtE into submission. You just drag what's going on back to past games and act like I'm scumreading you on some personal vendetta when in fact I like you as a player. And I have a fuckton of reasons to think that you're scum here. None of which you've answered without misrepresenting the fuck out of everything.

Like if you're legitimately town and want to leave this game with an 'I hate RC for lynching me here' chip on your back, feel free but it's not backed up by reality.
I will happily not join any of your future games.

All I see is you attempting to discredit my reads. This fits perfectly into my PK/Aj narrative since you'd know full well that I'm not night killable and knocking off my armor wouldn't protect me from lynching the other tomorrow, so you'd sort of need a lynch on anyone but us.
And you are! You've voted, IIRC, Robster, Almost, Xk, and Cobbler today. That leaves only AJ, myself who is obvious town, and masquerade who is towning it the fuck up today.

So, if the shoe fits...?

just meta though.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #408 (isolation #33) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:24 pm

Notice that PK's response calls me egotistical instead of pointing out scum motivation.
He's implying that I'm wrong based on a consistent metric of systemic error as opposed to calling me scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #411 (isolation #34) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:26 pm

\o/ best vote \o/

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #414 (isolation #35) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:51 pm

'how dare this guy push me as scum when I roll scum! the audacity!!!!!!'

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #457 (isolation #36) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:32 am

I still think that PK!slot is scum regardless of the replacement.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #458 (isolation #37) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:35 am

I don't think that PK is the type of person who would replace out at this time over a personal vendetta if he were town who thought I was town or scum.

I believe that he replaced out because he's scum and couldn't stomach getting lynched by me again. Hence him overexplaining his reasons to replace out when he did.

I also don't like Titus's first streak of posts upon replacing in; they feel doctored and they feel for show like 'hey look at me scumhunting!' and I don't really feel a genuine thought process there as much as an artificial trail of posts designed to look as town as possible while leading her exactly where she wanted to go in the first place (RTF lynch.)

Now I don't like RTF very much but I think I should give him the benefit of the doubt as a potential newbie enough that I don't feel the urge to vote him right now. My vote sticks.
After all, there's no scum motivation in refusing to vote Titus unless she's his scumpartner, while there is town motivation in sticking to your guns and not wanting to be herded.

His behaviour is somewhat weird though.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #460 (isolation #38) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:43 am

And saying scum if I'm not doesn't really make sense.
I can see that it would sort of make sense for RTF to respond in that way to be shepherding his lynch around if I were his scumbuddy.
Conversely, me putting myself into a position where I'd be able to immediately vote him if he got wagoned while pushing a mislynch primarily is classic RC fare.
So that doesn't really reason out.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #463 (isolation #39) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:43 pm

I am not liking Titus and I don't understand where you get a townread from that slot.

Walk me through it?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #476 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:30 am

In post 473, RaisusTheFlammie wrote:EBWOP: I've had it with this forum. I'm no longer having fun.

@Mod - Please replace me

The people pushing on you are probably scum.

I'm fairly certain Creature is at least and Titus is a strong scumread.

Please stay?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #477 (isolation #41) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:31 am

In fact yeah.

VOTE: Creature

Titus gets a temporary stay of execution.
What's your read here?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #479 (isolation #42) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:41 am

I see no scum motivation in his play.

He might be awkward scum but it's not as strong a lead as any of the others I have.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #482 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:48 am

In post 480, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 475, Creature wrote:
In post 474, Creature wrote:Raisus, replacing out will make it more complicated for us.

I am afraid your replacer will just say "well, i don't know what he was doing"

That's not his problem

Does that not feel like scum to you?

I can't put it into words but that post is just driving me crazy.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #483 (isolation #44) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:51 am

I got it.
Creature's thinking about how the replacement will defend the slot.
I don't think that's necessarily how town would think of things. It feels more like scum looking for an easy mislynch than genuine scumhunting.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #484 (isolation #45) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:56 am

He's very waffley as well, jumping on major wagons, etc.

just a really bad slot in general.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #489 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:48 am

In post 485, Titus wrote:VOTE: creature

I still think RTF slot is scum here. I think Creature was positioning rather than scumhunting though too.

Considering RC likes Creature, I can go here.

What's your read on me?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #492 (isolation #47) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:12 pm

That's bad.

What's your read on me?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #493 (isolation #48) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:14 pm

You dodged the question.

I'm not looking for associatives.

What do you think my alignment is and why?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #497 (isolation #49) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:16 pm

Umm, she clearly indicated that it didn't?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #505 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:22 pm

I'm going to smack this game now.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #511 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:55 pm

*looks for Shiro*

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #512 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:01 pm

Alright I'm going to force myself to go through this game nice and slow.

Page 1:

Townread: {Not_Mafia}
Scumread: {Pisskop, Creature, Jmo}

Page 2:

Town: {Not_Mafia}
Townlean: {Smeagol}
Null: {}
Scumlean: {Pisskop}
Scum: {Creature

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #513 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:04 pm

Page 3:

Town: {Not_Mafia}
Townlean: {Smeagol}
Null: {}
Scumlean: {Pisskop, Jmo}
Scum: {Creature}

KainTepes: {KainTepes}

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #514 (isolation #54) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:11 pm

Page 4:

Town: {Not_Mafia}
Townlean: {Smeagol}
Null: {Pisskop}
Scumlean {Jmo, RTF}
Scum: {Creature}

KainTepes: {KainTepes}

Page 5:

Town: {Not_Mafia, Smeagol}
Townlean: {}
Null: {Pisskop, RTF}
Scumlean: {ZZZX, Jmo}
Scum: {Creature}

KainTepes: {KainTepes}

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #515 (isolation #55) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:20 pm

Page 6:

Town: {Not_Mafia, Smeagol}
Townlean: {Pisskop}
Null: {RTF}
Scumlean: {ZZZX, Jmo}
Scum: {Creature}

KainTepes: {KainTepes}

Page 7:

Town: {Not_Mafia, Smeagol}
Townlean: {}
Null: {Pisskop, RTF}
Scumlean: {ZZZX, Jmo}
Uberscum: {Creature}

PlzHelpMe: {KainTepes}

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #516 (isolation #56) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:20 pm

Okay at this point I'm super happy with the Creature lynch. Can we just make this happen?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #517 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:29 pm

I'm done catching up.

Support the Creature wagon, vote him.

Don't and explain why you don't and I'll tell you why you're wrong.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #529 (isolation #58) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:14 pm

In post 526, Creature wrote:
RadiantCowbells

Your reads look a bit off. Do you actually believe Titus and I are the scum team? Why do you town read Not_Mafia in every page?

Because he's a super strong townread.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #530 (isolation #59) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:15 pm

527 is such a horrible post as well.

Think we've caught scum here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #534 (isolation #60) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:11 am

Explain why I'm wrong to scumread you and I might stop scumreading you!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #536 (isolation #61) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:22 am

Sorry to see you go Smeagol!

As for everyone else, either produce content or vote Creature.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #538 (isolation #62) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:22 am

I ISOed you as well and you have not a single post that strikes me as towny.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #540 (isolation #63) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:27 am

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #543 (isolation #64) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:35 am

I don't recall saying that.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #545 (isolation #65) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:37 am

Not your making a show of all your reads and shit.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #548 (isolation #66) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:03 am

I'm open to you changing my mind about the lynch but that requires you to do something that makes me think you're town.

You have not done so.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #551 (isolation #67) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:38 am

I'm surprised NM isn't a lot more paranoid about me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #572 (isolation #68) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:02 pm

lol.

NM and your slot are my two major townreads here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #575 (isolation #69) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:06 pm

I townread NM from early on.

Not that NM doesn't do stupid shit as scum but his stupid shit on the first page seemed town and stuff like 138 and 140 felt really towny.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #577 (isolation #70) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:08 pm

correct.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #579 (isolation #71) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:10 pm

In post 578, Not_Mafia wrote:Awwww RC

Is this saying that you're in fact scum?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #587 (isolation #72) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:25 pm

Let's not get the wrong idea that NM is off being super nice to me and I'm rejecting his kindness.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #588 (isolation #73) » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:59 pm

I like the not fighting thing that's going on here though.

let's maintain it.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #590 (isolation #74) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:35 am

There's been 0 content since the creature wagon was started.

Titus?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #591 (isolation #75) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:35 am

Titus/PC both in prod range TTH :[

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #593 (isolation #76) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:34 am

We have 2 people well past prod range. Can we get an extension and prods?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #611 (isolation #77) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:38 am

Guys what this is a disgusting lurkerfest and I have no new content to address.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #634 (isolation #78) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:01 am

VOTE: TTH

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #635 (isolation #79) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:02 am

VOTE: Creature

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #643 (isolation #80) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:26 am

All neighbours claim now please.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #644 (isolation #81) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:27 am

And oh my god Annis alive!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #655 (isolation #82) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:26 pm

Maybe cuz u is scums?
Maybe cuz scum afraid of doc protection on me and sees you as a viable mislynch?
Maybe because scum was in a neighbourhood that they wanted to clear out?
I bet you that either this is a 3 neighbourhood and 1 is scum or it's a 2 neighbourhood and the remaining is PR.
If there's 2 neighbours left I want whichever one is town to out.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #654 (isolation #83) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:26 pm

Maybe cuz u is scums?
Maybe cuz scum afraid of doc protection on me and sees you as a viable mislynch?
Maybe because scum was in a neighbourhood that they wanted to clear out?
I bet you that either this is a 3 neighbourhood and 1 is scum or it's a 2 neighbourhood and the remaining is PR.
If there's 2 neighbours left I want whichever one is town to out.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #659 (isolation #84) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:58 pm

VOTE: Titus

Maybe you're town but if thats your attitude towards this game then we're better off rid of you.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #663 (isolation #85) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:23 pm

In post 658, Titus wrote:Phantom, reads? Why should I vote RC over you?

This is posturey as fuck.
This is either someone confbiased beyond hope or this is scum who bussed Creature and didn't kill me to try to doubtcast my slot.

Either way you're a barrier to town wincon.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #664 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:32 pm

Like you didn't even respond to my neighbour speculation.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #666 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:41 pm

No, it's not anti-town as fuck. If there's a 3 person neighbourhood you can virtually fucking guarantee that the last scum is in it.
This is proper fucking play and you should know this.
I AM trying to discredit your reads because I had to drag your ass onto Creature and now you're trying to insist that you just *know* scum is confirmed between 2 people, one of whom is me.

Like hey, you've been right quite a few times? But you've also fucked up quite a few times.
We are not speedlynching anyone, not me not phantomcobalt, and if you're refusing to give me the time and space to scumhunt this properly I will lynch you for the sake of my sanity.
And that's on top of you being a slot I'm already hella suspicious of.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #667 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:44 pm

Maybe PC is scum, maybe you're right.
But I will come to that conclusion on my own.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #670 (isolation #89) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:04 pm

Then we lynched Creature jointly.
Let's lynch the remaining scum jointly if you're town, okay?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #672 (isolation #90) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:36 pm

I'm so not in the mood for your crap.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #674 (isolation #91) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:38 pm

It's pretty obvious that it was targeted because he was a neighbour.

Hence me trying to out the fucking neighbourhood.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #676 (isolation #92) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:40 pm

neighbour.

not neighbourizer.

stop dumbtelling.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #678 (isolation #93) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:41 pm

https://epicmafia.com/topic/63379?page=1

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #679 (isolation #94) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:43 pm

aka, I'm suspicious that you're scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #682 (isolation #95) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:45 pm

Well I find odd the combinatino of two things.

1) Your ignorance of the fact that it was a neighbour and not a neighbourizer
and
2) the fact that you got upset at me for 'fishing the neighbourhood' when it's obviously the correct move strategically.

It feels like you were part of a 2 person neighbourhood with him, he called you out in neighbour chat, and are now trying to distance from the hood.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #683 (isolation #96) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:45 pm

Well I find odd the combinatino of two things.

1) Your ignorance of the fact that it was a neighbour and not a neighbourizer
and
2) the fact that you got upset at me for 'fishing the neighbourhood' when it's obviously the correct move strategically.

It feels like you were part of a 2 person neighbourhood with him, he called you out in neighbour chat, and are now trying to distance from the hood.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #685 (isolation #97) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:48 pm

The other person who has strong indications of having been in a neighbourhood with JMO is NM but I'm townreading him so ehh.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #687 (isolation #98) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:51 pm

I'm FoSing you and Not_Mafia, yes.
To say that I am trying to frame you implies that I am scum trying to mudsling instead of town trying to search for the last scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #688 (isolation #99) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:51 pm

FoSing you and not_mafia for neighbour status*

I'm not FoSing NM in general.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #689 (isolation #100) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:53 pm

I'm going to read from the get go with the flip and neighbourhood revelation and see what I get.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #690 (isolation #101) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:56 pm

Not_Mafia
This is the problem of putting someone at L-1 at the very start of the game.

I'm townreading NM anyway and I can't see scum saying this to another scum.
So, not on lynch list.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #691 (isolation #102) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:58 pm

ZZZX is *probably* not scum anyway?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #692 (isolation #103) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:59 pm

Dominator slot doesn't make much sense with Creature.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #693 (isolation #104) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:02 pm

Ok so I'm going to have

{RC, NM, ZZZX} in my safety pool for now.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #694 (isolation #105) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:08 pm

I see where Titus is coming from with RTF / Creature.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #695 (isolation #106) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:12 pm

In post 559, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 555, Not_Mafia wrote:Last minute speed wagon on jmo anyone?

creature your scum partner or someting?

In post 560, Not_Mafia wrote:I don't know, you tell me

:\

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #696 (isolation #107) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:14 pm

VOTE: PC

You need to do things, yeah.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #699 (isolation #108) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:33 am

Just you?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #702 (isolation #109) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:42 am

VOTE: Fire Assassin

I'm happy omgusing here.

I gave us Creature, I'm not going to be lynched to appease your insecurity.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #704 (isolation #110) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:45 am

insecurity regarding my alignment, yes.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #706 (isolation #111) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:47 am

That was clearly the intent of that phrase and I've used it as such many times?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #708 (isolation #112) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:55 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... y#p7699635

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #710 (isolation #113) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:01 am

You could interpret it as that.
Or you could simply see it as me responding in the same manner?
Note the fact that I responded immediately after your post. Did I have time to search for quotes that fit the situation?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #712 (isolation #114) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:04 am

RadiantCowbells

Search your posts

Insecurity

Are you scumhunting me or confbiasing yourself?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #713 (isolation #115) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:05 am

Also, I don't need to copy posts to post something like that.
I need to copy posts when I'm doing more complicated AtE work.
That post is something that comes naturally.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #714 (isolation #116) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:06 am

Why don't you look at Creature's posts and see if he's my scumbuddy instead of trying to sort me from reading me (which won't help because I can make my associatives as clean as they need to be)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #717 (isolation #117) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:10 am

I have a question for you to think about.

What would I have done this game to have you townread me? I'm curious.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #720 (isolation #118) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:14 am

If the answer is indeed nothing, then yes I am unsortable.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #721 (isolation #119) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:17 am

And it's not like I'm a one trick pony only plays scum well player. People are asking questions about me not dying for a reason.

So what am I supposed to do in this situation, do you think Firebringer?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #722 (isolation #120) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:22 am

Whoops wrong name.

You remind me of someone.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #724 (isolation #121) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:25 am

I'm not implying you did.
My point is that town!me staying alive is incredibly beneficial for town.
But I can't argue with you about it because you've already decided there's nothing I can do to earn a townread.

If I'm that much of a problem don't you think it's better to go in the OTHER direction and just write off scum!RC games as a loss and have a huge advantage the other 7/9 of the time?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #726 (isolation #122) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:28 am

It's not trust telling to not push on someone that you know you're going to FoS no matter what.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #727 (isolation #123) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:30 am

And this is something I've said to death.

I've been lynched like 20 odd times as town last year. Nearly all of them were town losses.
I've been lynched once as scum leading to a loss.

If I had never been lynched, town would have benefited from it the vast majority of the time.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #728 (isolation #124) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:35 am

How else are you expecting me to respond to someone who has basically said 'welp no matter what you do you could have done it as scum'?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #730 (isolation #125) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:40 am

If you're at the point where you've literally decided that there's nothing you can do to sort me then yes.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #731 (isolation #126) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:40 am

Do you not see a problem with saying that 'well no matter what has happened he's still a scum contender and because RC priority lynch'?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #733 (isolation #127) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:46 am

UNVOTE:

I don't want the dude getting quicklynched.

1) yes I promise that if I'm scum I'll kill you.
2) I'm not.
3) I'd like to lynch scum today so no one here has to worry about my alignment further.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #736 (isolation #128) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:59 am

You wanted to lynch RTF.
I wanted to lynch Creature.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #738 (isolation #129) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:01 am

And hey in postgame if they were both scum we can both be happy.
But while RTF slot is not confscum you were trying to push an unsolved wagon while I was trying to lynch scum.
So this isn't me taking credit for jack, yo.

And no, I'm not going to just trust you on PC out of hand and I wouldn't even if I was sure you were town.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #740 (isolation #130) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:04 am

VOTE: Titus

This is just such a slimy mischaracterization.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #741 (isolation #131) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:05 am

Not sure if ego thing or trying to manipulate the gamestate to make me look bad.

Either way, no trustings. And it's PK slot.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #742 (isolation #132) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:08 am

I'm Jeanne for the rest of this day.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #743 (isolation #133) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:11 am

I is not discrediting your part in the Creature lynch tyvm.

Why are you trying to discredit mine?!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #747 (isolation #134) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:27 am

In post 477, RadiantCowbells wrote:In fact yeah.

VOTE: Creature

Titus gets a temporary stay of execution.
What's your read here?

In post 482, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 480, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 475, Creature wrote:
In post 474, Creature wrote:Raisus, replacing out will make it more complicated for us.

I am afraid your replacer will just say "well, i don't know what he was doing"

That's not his problem

Does that not feel like scum to you?

I can't put it into words but that post is just driving me crazy.

In post 483, RadiantCowbells wrote:I got it.
Creature's thinking about how the replacement will defend the slot.
I don't think that's necessarily how town would think of things. It feels more like scum looking for an easy mislynch than genuine scumhunting.

In post 484, RadiantCowbells wrote:He's very waffley as well, jumping on major wagons, etc.

just a really bad slot in general.

In post 485, Titus wrote:VOTE: creature

I still think RTF slot is scum here. I think Creature was positioning rather than scumhunting though too.

Considering RC likes Creature, I can go here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #749 (isolation #135) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:33 am

Did I take credit for the read or did I take credit for starting the wagon?
And are you really saying that I sheeped your read?
I didn't say that you didn't independently scumread the slot. I said that you

followed me onto the wagon

which is objectively true.
I'm trying to sift through whether this is an ego argument or legitimate scum positioning.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #751 (isolation #136) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:37 am

I lead the wagon though!

I was the first vote on it and shit.

I'm not saying you didn't independently scumread and 'dragged you on' was definitely a mischaracterization, but I did 'lead the wagon'.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #753 (isolation #137) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:41 am

I see what you're saying now.

This is not a necessary argument I think.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #755 (isolation #138) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:44 am

I don't share your confidence in Scum!PC.
Definitely my top scum pick as well but if you see it as me or him I'm in no rush to lynch him.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #757 (isolation #139) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:45 am

Like, I agree that you're *probably* right.

But I want to be sure before we lynch anyone.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #758 (isolation #140) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:50 am

Why are you writing Dominator slot out of the scumpool?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #759 (isolation #141) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:54 am

Fine whatever. I have enough townreads.

VOTE: PC

RadiantCowbells · Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:07 pm

I shall drink tonight if and only if PC is lynched very soon and flips scum.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:55 pm

dom hammer naow.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #768 (isolation #144) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:00 pm

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #771 (isolation #145) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:54 am

I have a really cheesy and non game related reason to think that PC is scum now.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #772 (isolation #146) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:59 am

NM not posting things + the jmo thing is bugging me tho

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #779 (isolation #147) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:16 am

Not locked!

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:03 am

Fire Assassin I'm near 100% sure is town.
I'm currently leaning Dominator/KT for scum with my current second pick being Titus.
I'll reread and see if that holds up.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:05 am

Uh, I can't seem to remember why I was townreading ZZZX.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:06 am

Right, cuz Creature called ihm the fuck out.

hmm.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:08 am

We should massclaim today.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:10 am

In post 780, Titus wrote:VOTE: RC

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #787 (isolation #153) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:50 pm

I am so incredibly relieved that you're townreading me here.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #789 (isolation #154) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:53 pm

I'd have killed you and said I was being framed, yeah.

Wouldn't be worth it to win this any other way as scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #790 (isolation #155) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:05 pm

VOTE: Titus

I don't believe that I'm changing Titus's vote and PK was my leading scumread so *shrug*

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #792 (isolation #156) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:09 am

Because I have nothing *to* claim.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #794 (isolation #157) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:49 am

I haven't claimed but I'm VT.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #800 (isolation #158) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:12 am

RadiantCowbells · Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:38 am

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #805 (isolation #160) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:33 pm

well?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #808 (isolation #161) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:14 pm

k dom.

glad you're confident!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #809 (isolation #162) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:29 pm

Won't be here for a few days.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #817 (isolation #163) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:13 am

RC is town.

You make me sad Titus.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:34 pm

UNVOTE:

like I'm not really townreading Titus but I'd rather not lynch her
but she's deathtunneling me so I sorta feel like we have to lynch her today.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #823 (isolation #165) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:09 pm

heard you loud and clear.

but titus is deathtunneling me sooo

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #827 (isolation #166) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:58 pm

Because that's what I'm doing?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #829 (isolation #167) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:07 pm

I have no idea who my scumreads are either tbh.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #831 (isolation #168) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:09 pm

Yes you have?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #832 (isolation #169) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:12 pm

Huh, well maybe you haven't.

I could provide numerous examples though!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #833 (isolation #170) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:13 pm

I mean
I'm not like over confused.
I'm leaning town on you, pretty damn sure FA is town.

I just don't know how to pick between ZZZX and Dominator.
ZZZX has been objectively more scummy but the whole Creature calling him out for the scumslip-ish thing protects him.

I want more content from both of them and the lack of more content from both of them has left me sorta stumped as to how to proceed, yeah.

Especially when the chances are if you're brought to LyLo you speedvote me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #835 (isolation #171) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:16 pm

I've like
reread this game 10 times

haven't been able to make a decision between the two lurksack slots.

hence me wanting replacements and more content.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #836 (isolation #172) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:22 pm

and it doesn't matter whether you speedvote me in LyLo if I can't change your mind.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:08 am

Can we hvae a deadline extension till like 7 days after people start producing content?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:06 pm

Hiya LynchMeSideways.

Thanks for joining us!

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:06 pm

In post 820, TheDominator37 wrote:VOTE: Titus

L-1

In post 807, TheDominator37 wrote:Dang that was a tough catching up.

RC is town btw.

In post 806, TheDominator37 wrote:Ugh. I'll post here in a sec

In post 763, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 761, Titus wrote:Dom replaced KT. KT is town here. Dom inherited the slot.

@Dom, scum don't have to be overbearing. Where'd you get that idea?

More like something too suspicious

In post 760, TheDominator37 wrote:Why PC. I ISOed the slot and don't see something too overbearing

In post 745, TheDominator37 wrote:What is scummy about the PC slot?

In post 656, TheDominator37 wrote:Makes sense but then the mafia will no longer follow their plans

btw your iso is shit tier.
do something.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:43 pm

It's 34 pages. you should read everything!

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #846 (isolation #177) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:41 pm

Are you Amaanbaig?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #849 (isolation #178) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:42 pm

I'll take that as a no.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #862 (isolation #179) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:29 pm

'slight scum lean'

I'm not your partner br0

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #865 (isolation #180) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:57 am

don't sigh.

produce content.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #867 (isolation #181) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:44 pm

VOTE: Dominator

I'll trust in Titus to sort out her shit if it comes to it.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #868 (isolation #182) » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:49 pm

Might be ZZZX slot as well but Dom's 0 effort has made him my pref. lynch.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #870 (isolation #183) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:22 am

I'd rather try to lynch scum today than force a policy lynch 1v1 that serves no purpose.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #872 (isolation #184) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:51 am

I could hypothetically, but I think Dominator is more likely to be scum at this time.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #879 (isolation #185) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:12 pm

Can we have Dominator force replaced for refusal to generate legitimate content?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #880 (isolation #186) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:14 pm

In post 875, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 870, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd rather try to lynch scum today than force a policy lynch 1v1 that serves no purpose.

Lol.

In post 874, TheDominator37 wrote:This is a content post.

In post 864, TheDominator37 wrote:Sigh

In post 820, TheDominator37 wrote:VOTE: Titus

L-1

In post 807, TheDominator37 wrote:Dang that was a tough catching up.

RC is town btw.

In post 806, TheDominator37 wrote:Ugh. I'll post here in a sec

In post 763, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 761, Titus wrote:Dom replaced KT. KT is town here. Dom inherited the slot.

@Dom, scum don't have to be overbearing. Where'd you get that idea?

More like something too suspicious

In post 760, TheDominator37 wrote:Why PC. I ISOed the slot and don't see something too overbearing

In post 745, TheDominator37 wrote:What is scummy about the PC slot?

In post 656, TheDominator37 wrote:Makes sense but then the mafia will no longer follow their plans

This is over two fucking days.
We shouldn't be forced to policy lynch a slot that's refusing produce content if it's town.
Please replace him. If you consider the criteria for prodding to be 'game relevant content' then you can say he hasn't this entire day phase.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #886 (isolation #187) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:42 pm

okay but

are you actually gonna do anything?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #887 (isolation #188) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:51 pm

like

'OMG LET ME STAY'

then does nothing.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #890 (isolation #189) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:53 pm

literally the only game related content you've given is 'rc is town'
which is worthless because I'm already generally townread and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between scum me and town me and your opinion would therefore sway no one.
certainly not Titus who is super self investy in her opinions.

This is another quality post

Why even join mafia games to do this?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #894 (isolation #190) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:56 pm

I am town though.

so uh

like what?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #897 (isolation #191) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:00 pm

If you're not going to give reasoning for your reads I'm not going to vote jack.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #898 (isolation #192) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:01 pm

Titus, engage me as well please.

Especially if you've come over to townreading me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #900 (isolation #193) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:02 pm

but dom isn't RC.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #904 (isolation #194) » Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:12 am

Except ZZZX funnily enough.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #930 (isolation #195) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:42 pm

Why wouldn't RC get shot considering dom fucking cleared me?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #931 (isolation #196) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:45 pm

Titus, I think you're town and will blindly sheep whoever you want to vote.

I want you to think long and hard before you make that decision though.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #936 (isolation #197) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:55 pm

I'mm not voting Titus. consider the game already won by her if she's scum.

explain why we should vote ZZZX or don't.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #937 (isolation #198) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:56 pm

In post 932, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 930, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why wouldn't RC get shot considering dom fucking cleared me?

How does a role cop clear you exactly?

Think about it.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #940 (isolation #199) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:58 pm

That's just telling me I should vote you.

I am not voting Titus.