Micro 597: TTH's Normal Micro (Game Over)

Fire Assassin · Post Post #725 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:27 am

In post 724, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not implying you did.
My point is that town!me staying alive is incredibly beneficial for town.
But I can't argue with you about it because you've already decided there's nothing I can do to earn a townread.

If I'm that much of a problem don't you think it's better to go in the OTHER direction and just write off scum!RC games as a loss and have a huge advantage the other 7/9 of the time?

This sounds like you are asking me to trust tell you in games, which is against the rules.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #726 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:28 am

It's not trust telling to not push on someone that you know you're going to FoS no matter what.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #727 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:30 am

And this is something I've said to death.

I've been lynched like 20 odd times as town last year. Nearly all of them were town losses.
I've been lynched once as scum leading to a loss.

If I had never been lynched, town would have benefited from it the vast majority of the time.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #728 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:35 am

How else are you expecting me to respond to someone who has basically said 'welp no matter what you do you could have done it as scum'?

Fire Assassin · Post Post #729 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:37 am

In post 726, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's not trust telling to not push on someone that you know you're going to FoS no matter what.

You are saying I should assume you are always town, and never lynch you essentially.
Chalk up every lose as just a part of doing business to scum!RC, and win a majority of games because you will be town in a good number of them. So I am still ahead of it in the end.

Do you not see a problem with any of this suggestion?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #730 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:40 am

If you're at the point where you've literally decided that there's nothing you can do to sort me then yes.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #731 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:40 am

Do you not see a problem with saying that 'well no matter what has happened he's still a scum contender and because RC priority lynch'?

Fire Assassin · Post Post #732 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:45 am

If you are scum can you promise to kill me?
VOTE: PhantomCobalt

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #733 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:46 am

UNVOTE:

I don't want the dude getting quicklynched.

1) yes I promise that if I'm scum I'll kill you.
2) I'm not.
3) I'd like to lynch scum today so no one here has to worry about my alignment further.

Titus · Post Post #734 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:58 am

In post 702, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Fire Assassin

I'm happy omgusing here.

I gave us Creature, I'm not going to be lynched to appease your insecurity.

Yeah, stop taking credit for my pushes. K thx.

Titus · Post Post #735 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:59 am

In post 716, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 712, RadiantCowbells wrote:RadiantCowbells

Search your posts

Insecurity

Are you scumhunting me or confbiasing yourself?

Meh, I don't know. Hard to trust you, especially with your actions this day. I don't consider you anymore pro town for lynching Creature.

Yeah, why don't you make an effort to actually solve whether it's a bus or not?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #736 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:59 am

You wanted to lynch RTF.
I wanted to lynch Creature.

Titus · Post Post #737 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:00 am

In post 733, RadiantCowbells wrote:UNVOTE:

I don't want the dude getting quicklynched.

1) yes I promise that if I'm scum I'll kill you.
2) I'm not.
3) I'd like to lynch scum today so no one here has to worry about my alignment further.

Then revote PC. He's probably scum here. You two can have your fight here, but it's either you or him so...

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #738 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:01 am

And hey in postgame if they were both scum we can both be happy.
But while RTF slot is not confscum you were trying to push an unsolved wagon while I was trying to lynch scum.
So this isn't me taking credit for jack, yo.

And no, I'm not going to just trust you on PC out of hand and I wouldn't even if I was sure you were town.

Titus · Post Post #739 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:01 am

In post 736, RadiantCowbells wrote:You wanted to lynch RTF.
I wanted to lynch Creature.

I wanted to lynch either. You picked Creature out of the options, which gives you town points but you don't get to take credit for what you didn't do.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #740 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:04 am

VOTE: Titus

This is just such a slimy mischaracterization.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #741 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:05 am

Not sure if ego thing or trying to manipulate the gamestate to make me look bad.

Either way, no trustings. And it's PK slot.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #742 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:08 am

I'm Jeanne for the rest of this day.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #743 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:11 am

I is not discrediting your part in the Creature lynch tyvm.

Why are you trying to discredit mine?!

PhantomCobalt · Post Post #744 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:31 am

Titus can you answer my question?

TheDominator37 · Post Post #745 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:25 am

What is scummy about the PC slot?

Titus · Post Post #746 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:26 am

In post 744, PhantomCobalt wrote:Titus can you answer my question?

Read Day 1. If you can't figure it out then, ask. Come with reads too.

@RC, I'm not discrediting you. You don't get to imply that I sheeped you when it was the other way around. You got on. You picked scum lynch over town lynch. You get credit for that. You don't get to take credit when I bust scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #747 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:27 am

In post 477, RadiantCowbells wrote:In fact yeah.

VOTE: Creature

Titus gets a temporary stay of execution.
What's your read here?

In post 482, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 480, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 475, Creature wrote:
In post 474, Creature wrote:Raisus, replacing out will make it more complicated for us.

I am afraid your replacer will just say "well, i don't know what he was doing"

That's not his problem

Does that not feel like scum to you?

I can't put it into words but that post is just driving me crazy.

In post 483, RadiantCowbells wrote:I got it.
Creature's thinking about how the replacement will defend the slot.
I don't think that's necessarily how town would think of things. It feels more like scum looking for an easy mislynch than genuine scumhunting.

In post 484, RadiantCowbells wrote:He's very waffley as well, jumping on major wagons, etc.

just a really bad slot in general.

In post 485, Titus wrote:VOTE: creature

I still think RTF slot is scum here. I think Creature was positioning rather than scumhunting though too.

Considering RC likes Creature, I can go here.

Titus · Post Post #748 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:29 am

In post 422, Titus wrote:Through page 13

I like Raisus/Creature/Smegol scum pool with a slight possibility of RC.

In post 423, Titus wrote:VOTE: Raisus

RC help me murder this. Yesterday. If you're town, this is scum.

Yeah.

I gave the pool. You picked within it.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #749 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:33 am

Did I take credit for the read or did I take credit for starting the wagon?
And are you really saying that I sheeped your read?
I didn't say that you didn't independently scumread the slot. I said that you

followed me onto the wagon

which is objectively true.
I'm trying to sift through whether this is an ego argument or legitimate scum positioning.