Micro 660: Triplicate Mafia - Game Over

[lane0168]

Easy VOTE: dbdub

If guilty is town great, if he's scum well, I owe him one.

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I wish my initials were dbw. My nickname would be dbdub for sure

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The groups hammer locks in

That's pretty important

Its important to understand the rules when you start a game. Come on Dunn, I even knew that

[lane0168]

Easy VOTE: dbdub

If guilty is town great, if he's scum well, I owe him one.

Next time he's scum he owes me one
Lane you should know what I'm talking about you were there

I think I'm the only one in this site that doesn't remember everything, about their past games. I'm lucky if I remember who I played with unless something significant happened between us

[lane0168]

Accusations of scumminess based on voting are not applicable currently

I disagree

Can you explain why? When you admitted to overlooking the rule? Why stick with your initial read, when the reason you made the read is wrong? Answer GuiltyLion's question too

[lane0168]

It doesn't. I looked and I still don't know what you're talking about. He replaced out and didn't do much cause it was ridiculously fast

[lane0168]

"VT here" - frank
"ahh scum!!" arc
"I'm town" - guilty
"must be town" - arc

ARc, want to explain the difference?

[lane0168]

VT here.

Scum found in Wisdom.

You got a scum read off of two words?

What's the point of declaring that he is VT?? At this time, how doesn't it help to move forward the game?

Is this your attempt to twist my statements?

Woah, you wrote 2 words, and give a scum read. Someone asks about exactly what you did, and you accuse them of twisting your words? How exactly is that twisting your words? It came exactly from your post with no additions or subtractions. Why do defensive? It was a simple question that brought you immediately on the attack. Why?

[lane0168]

@arc, also mods have enough to do without answering rules related questions that are found in the rules and were quoted in thread. Please look for the answers before asking the mod.

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@arc you didn't justify your motive to secret before he asked you a simple question. You got defensive over zero threat. That shows your paranoid. Explain how he was in any way twisting your words.

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Hopefully dbw posts, gets prodded, or gets replaced sometime soon. Could really use something to go off of there

[lane0168]

Excited for Frank to come back too!

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I'd vote arc too. I really don't like arc "testing the motive" by basically incriminating SAJ. There was no reason to go about it that way unless you're trying to subtly get people looking that way.

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Frank still hasn't explained clearly enough for me why his vote was ok and Howards was bad. I gotta go back and see if I just wasn't understanding the explanation but I think he's the scum there

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Dbw is either a very slow reader, or doesn't understand that posting about the game is a pretty big part of the game. I don't think it takes 5 hours for 6 pages

[lane0168]

Frank is full of hot air. He's trying to substantiate his read on Howard but any means necessary. It's pretty bad. So dbw gets lynched, Frank, and arc. That's my votes

[lane0168]

That dunn unvote looks like searching for town cred. Evidenced by himself bringing up "if I was scum I'd let arc get lynched"

[lane0168]

How the hell is voting gamma scum?

[lane0168]

Is Frank's entire case on Howard that Howard rvs voted, but frank did it first so Howard is the scum? Honestly is that what Frank is trying to push here?

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He's made no explanation of why only scum would vote gamma. Why the hell not? It's rvs. He had 2 choices to vote. I voted as well

[lane0168]

How the hell is voting gamma scum?

By itself it isnt.

But your scum read is based off that alone. It said so. He had 3 choices. Voting gamma is scummy according to you. But now you say by itself it isn't? When your own scum is based solely on that. What makes it scummy then?

[lane0168]

His vote wasn't a red flag, it was an RVS vote. Several people didn't question you. You didn't say anything to them. I rvs voted, and didn't question you, you didn't say anything to me. Why didnt you wait to vote? Why didn't you vote gamma? What do you mean by ignoring the whole group now?

[lane0168]

Are

"no reason not to"

and

"rvs"

mutually exclusive? No. My vote was

random

with

no reason not to

vote because I understood the mechanics. So why wouldn't/shouldn't I vote quickly? Or anyone else for that matter. No need to discredit your read, just pointing out your actions and why you are scum.

VOTE: howard
Flipped a coin.

How is this different than my vote? It. Is. Not.

Town wouldnt vote like that.
I could just jump right over and lynch gamma right now.
Isnt that what you want me to do?

You believe that a second vote would cause a lynch, believe you caught scum, don't unvote. Makes. No. Sense.

Day doesn't end until all groups lynch.
So you can hammer and not fully lynch.

I over looked that rule

Now you know.

@Frank: why did you call out Howard for voting?

Me and Howard are in 2 different positions. My vote was literally random.
I dont think town would have voted at all in his position.
Scum has several reasons they would do what he did.
BUT I was more interested in his reply. Which was what exactly?

(see below for "difference" I guess. *shrug*) What reply/reaction were you expecting and how would it have helped?

Apparently what Frank said about Howard doesn't apply to him. If you thought hammers were locked like that why would you even vote?

Thats exactly what I think. If he voted first I wouldnt have voted at all.
I hate saying reaction test. Because it skews the results.
Do you think town OR scum would have hammered there? So that doesnt really matter.

Nope . . . no "difference" reasoning here.

Do you think town OR scum would have hammered there? So that doesnt really matter.

I don't get the question.
If you are town, you have to think there's a chance one of us is scum. Why would you give the opportunity to quickhammer to scum?

Well it got a reaction from everyone but the guy who mattered.
I agree, but I also realize the only person hammering is scum. Scum knows this too.

How was a reaction going to tell you anything?!?!?

You missed an important mechanic. Tried to be slick. Failed. I'm done with you. Need to focus on the other groups now.

Howards last post doesn't look like he's ignoring your group

[lane0168]

There's nothing wrong with questioning someone's motives. Nobody said that. You're not listening. It's the way you did it that's scummy.

Also youre not listening to Howard either, IN THIS GAME VT and Townie is the same thing. Everyone is town or scum. At least I haven't seen anything that indicates there are power roles. Have you?

[lane0168]

@mod, dbw... Does his post count? Or can we get him replaced

[lane0168]

Arc

[lane0168]

I wonder what scum will do if they are the last hammer, and their buddy is on the lynch block

Probably the same thing town would do

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Im super frustrated with this dbw character. Gets prodded and pops in to say he's reading. Obviously a lie. And now it's been a day and 9 hours since then. I'm not trying to force mod hand or over step my bounds here but in this setup everyone needs to be here at least a little bit. Guilty, where you at?

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5 minutes after saying he's reading here he posts in a different thread.

Yes they probably will. They will hammer like normal. What do you think they'll say? "I'm not hammering until so and so isn't the lynch"?

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How does it sound forced at all? It's not the first time I brought it up, and you wouldn't be getting upset if 1 out of 2 of your only lynch options wasn't even playing? It's a pretty big deal if you ask me.

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It's been 4.5 days and he hasn't done anything. Tell me why you think I have to force it to be frustrated about that?

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Is Frank's entire case on Howard that Howard rvs voted, but frank did it first so Howard is the scum? Honestly is that what Frank is trying to push here?

lane, can you set aside Frank for a second and tell me what you think of Howard?

That's hard to do, almost all of his posts are replying to franks foolishness. I'm glad he's trying to move on and looking at other groups. Basically i agree with everything he says and 95% of it is about Frank

[lane0168]

What? If you know you're reaching, then why are you doing it? Do you think town has an obligation to be genuine in their reads and point out things they actually believe in? Or no

[lane0168]

I don't think they would need a code to tell each other to not push for your buddies lynch, and push elsewhere....

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Unless cool cool cool is a code for WHEN to stop bussing... Like I guess that is a possibility

[lane0168]

Why didn't you bring it up when you find it then Frank? Seems suspicious you're only bringing it up now

[lane0168]

Why didn't you bring it up when you find it then Frank? Seems suspicious you're only bringing it up now

Didnt want to alarm scum. Learn 2 play

Lol oh yeah good thinking

[lane0168]

Is Frank's entire case on Howard that Howard rvs voted, but frank did it first so Howard is the scum? Honestly is that what Frank is trying to push here?

lane, can you set aside Frank for a second and tell me what you think of Howard?

That's hard to do, almost all of his posts are replying to franks foolishness. I'm glad he's trying to move on and looking at other groups. Basically i agree with everything he says and 95% of it is about Frank

you agree with him but does that mean you think he's town? Cause I'm really not seeing any townposting from Howard

No. It helps though

[lane0168]

Why did we even let the slot get replaced instead of just lynching

And by we I mean lane and GL

I guess you're still confused about the setup. Even if guilty did have a vote on dbw, your group still doesn't have a lynch

[lane0168]

I don't think Frank is scum in wisdom. And I'm pretty sure there's scum in wisdom

Are you talking about Howard? If so i agree

Howard does look like a solid partner for q. Im glad I'm not in that group

[lane0168]

Ditto? Lol I don't know what you're saying. I mean I know what you're saying, but if you have another point, I don't know what it is

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Because I don't know who I'd pick between Frank and Howard. And I'd probably end up being wrong lol

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There is one thing that really bothers me about lane though. Why did you complain so much about DBW being inactive and then seemingly not care at all when I do replace in?

I do agree with this though, and would like to see Lane address it. I was also hoping to see him react to my vote but looks like he hasn't been here yet

Why would I make a show of someone doing something they're supposed to do? I don't get recognition for eating vegetables or getting 8 hours of sleep or drinking enough water.

Also I saw your vote.

Also guilty you strike me as similar to the last game when you ended up replacing out. Kinda popping in out, not too much to say. You're better as town I think

UNVOTE:

[lane0168]

Why would I make a show of someone doing something they're supposed to do? I don't get recognition for eating vegetables or getting 8 hours of sleep or drinking enough water.

You seemed frustrated at not being able to interact with a player in your group, but when the opportunity arises you don't seem interested. I'm not saying you should be applauding me for doing my job. If you want to go the analogy route, it's like you scream "I'm so thirsty!", and when you receive a glass of water, you're not even interested in drinking it.

I was frustrated for zero participation. Just because you post doesn't mean I have something to say to you. I need water. I need you to participate. I don't need to talk to you. You seem to be doing that just fine

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VOTE: qubixes

Sorry long weekend, I read through. Don't know if I'll get time to sort my thoughts before deadline, but guiltys lasts posts gives me a town read.

[lane0168]

I almost did vote guilty, but the other slot ruined it for me. I simply couldn't let that slot get away with saying they're catching up. And not posting anything else, but then going to post elsewhere. After I died I thought guilty seemed like a solid lynch. For wifom reasons basically