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Why did you join this game?
Who here would you trust with your vote if they were town?
What roles do you not like?
For me:
So I can play the entire Season 2 run.
SirCakez, maybe BBT. I'm not too familiar with BBT and would like to get to know him better this game.
Bus Driver. Causes too much chaos.
Because it's walking dead
No one really, I don't like sheeping except certain cases
Any scum role
In post 66, SirCakez wrote:I think I get where BBT is coming from on Gamma
More specifically?
@Creeps - I don't like that you're not giving me a straight answer. I also think your reason, if legit, is NAI for ArcAngel. Confirming without posting doesn't mean anything. Maybe they're busy and confirmed because they got the email notification.
Take a guess then I'll tell you
In post 72, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
I don't like these posts that are trying to start a wagon on Gamma, there is not even enough posts to get any half-solid reads on anyone. We are 3 pages in and people havent even had a chance to have AI posts.
This is sketchy as hell
When would you consider there to be enough pages for a "solid read"?
In post 72, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
I don't like these posts that are trying to start a wagon on Gamma, there is not even enough posts to get any half-solid reads on anyone. We are 3 pages in and people havent even had a chance to have AI posts.
This is sketchy as hell
When would you consider there to be enough pages for a "solid read"?
In my beliefs, you can start to make solid reads after everyone settles in and starts to analyze one another. We are still in RVS IMO, there are people still goofing around and the Gamma votes are not based off of any real reads, mainly the BBT posts. Creeps is all over the place and Joshz's posts dont make sense. We are too early in the game to be jumping on wagons.
And how do you know the Gamma votes aren't from real reads???
Just because posts are "all over the place/don't make sense" doesn't mean they can't be analyzed
In post 72, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
I don't like these posts that are trying to start a wagon on Gamma, there is not even enough posts to get any half-solid reads on anyone. We are 3 pages in and people havent even had a chance to have AI posts.
This is sketchy as hell
When would you consider there to be enough pages for a "solid read"?
In my beliefs, you can start to make solid reads after everyone settles in and starts to analyze one another. We are still in RVS IMO, there are people still goofing around and the Gamma votes are not based off of any real reads, mainly the BBT posts. Creeps is all over the place and Joshz's posts dont make sense. We are too early in the game to be jumping on wagons.
And how do you know the Gamma votes aren't from real reads???
Just because posts are "all over the place/don't make sense" doesn't mean they can't be analyzed
BBT looks to be basing his Gamma vote off gut feelings but hasn't have reasoning because there isnt any. Do me a favor, find me a reason to vote Gamma. I posted my thoughts on the Gamma wagon before it started because i rather a wagon not start on someone that hasnt done anything scummy. I dont know how my attempt to stop a Gamma wagon or anything i posted is scummy but apparently Gamma thinks i am scummy. He has played with me before and in those games i have been called a naturally scummy player. I guess it is my playstyle but every game i join people find me scummy. Anyways i am not saying the random posts cant be analyzed, i am saying that some people use RVS for joking around and nonsense posts, you can analyze those posts but in my opinion they wont tell you much about people's alignments and actual motivation towards the game.
See below re; Gamma
You trying to shoot down progressing the game is what is scummy.
This is obvious scum now, there was 0 follow up to this until Creeps got lolhammered. Plus the instant doubt casting to BBT post hammer.
BBT's lolhammer, while completely moronic, looks like dumb town to me.
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Post #136 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:19 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 132, Joshz wrote:there was 0 follow up because he was hammered almost immediately...?
There was 40 minutes between your vote and the hammer, that's bull
In post 133, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I wasnt stopping progression on the game, i was saying that there wasnt a reason for a Gamma lynch. I also said that RVS should not be taken solidly, people need to look at RVS with the possibility that there might be some posts that people dont really mean. Its called Random Vote Stage, not True Feelings Stage.
You literally said it was too early to take anything seriously
Everything can be analyzed, yes even RVS shitposting
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Post #251 (isolation #18) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:52 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 235, Joshz wrote:ive been scum read in all 5 games ive been in on this site, no shock now
bbt is supposed to be experienced isnt he? how is it possible to miss l-1, when vote count and my vote were on the same page? wouldnt a townie be more careful? like, if thats how much effort people put into games, im clearly trying too hard.
BBT does not pay much attention to VCs, I know from experience
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Post #348 (isolation #22) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:35 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 310, Joshz wrote:if we narrow it down to gamma and jin id rather lynch jin first, i dont like leaving bbt but ill give into pressure and lynch jin
Why Jin first? Jin is scummy yes but Gamma is far worse.
Joshz wrote:i feel stronger about the twin read and gamma has defended me, which regardless of if hes scum, is still nice. jin is first if we narrow it down to those two, which is a big if.
Gamma defending you would be white knighting which is a scum behavior....
i have never said gamma is town. scum maria and ep whiteknighted me in 1850 too. it is still nice to not have to constantly argue that youre a mislynch (especially as hated), and again, i specifically said IF we narrow it down to jin and gamma. gamma could not really switch his read on me without looking scummy, which unfortunately he did.
im t-dog
Do you think it's someone outside Jin/Gamma?
In post 353, Joshz wrote:look, idg why people are pointlessly prolonging the game. you have two choices. either lynch me and lose, or lynch jin / gamma and hope for the best. we have 4 people tomorrow, so no, i dont need to be lynched despite what youre saying, as long as townies all know not to vote me because scum can hammer. you are choosing between having 1 opportunity to get scum or 2, take your pick. or lynch me because im a bs liar. there is no need dragging this on.
i have never said gamma is town. scum maria and ep whiteknighted me in 1850 too. it is still nice to not have to constantly argue that youre a mislynch (especially as hated), and again, i specifically said IF we narrow it down to jin and gamma. gamma could not really switch his read on me without looking scummy, which unfortunately he did.
im t-dog
Do you think it's someone outside Jin/Gamma?
In post 353, Joshz wrote:look, idg why people are pointlessly prolonging the game. you have two choices. either lynch me and lose, or lynch jin / gamma and hope for the best. we have 4 people tomorrow, so no, i dont need to be lynched despite what youre saying, as long as townies all know not to vote me because scum can hammer. you are choosing between having 1 opportunity to get scum or 2, take your pick. or lynch me because im a bs liar. there is no need dragging this on.
You are lying about being hated?
Unlikely at the first part and town loses if it is.
Lol at the second part.
-Not necessarily, depends on if the other town pick up slack
-The "I'm a bs liar" implied you were lying sooo?
In post 360, Secret Agent Jin wrote:We know Mollie is Town
We assume Joshz is Town
Mollie vouches for Cakez and BBT
Its Gamma or myself it looks like.
Mollie, i know why you townread BBT but why do you townread Cakez? Do you really believe in a Josh lynch Mollie?
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Post #378 (isolation #28) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:07 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 364, Joshz wrote:If you are lynching me you're calling me a liar.
My issue here is you guys think I'm much worse than I am, yet I don't have the site meta to back it up. I do not play bad as scum, I play bad as a member of ms. I would not be dumb enough to fake claim lylo/Mylo hated townie, I was already being town read there was no benefit to that. You think I'm a noob and am lying slash got caught the same way knightmare. I have never been caught in a lie like his bpv shit, I research my fake claims before I fake claim them. Potato potato.
Ah OK, thought you were saying you were actually lying
This post is townie af
In post 370, Joshz wrote:but you are giving up the opportunity to lynch both to lynch me instead
Yep.
You shld probably go think about that.
ISO on knight rules out Josh and gamma and bbt
So how does the ISO on knight rule out Josh and Gamma but not myself?
This post is scummy as hell
Basically "why can't we mislynch one of those two????"
That post is more along the lines of Knightmare mentioned all of us the same. I am not hiding, i dont know why she excluded my name as we all, according to Knightmare, were either equally scummy or equally townread. The only name he didnt mention that is alive is you Cakez but Mollie is sure you are clear and i am willing to believe her. We need to find the hidden scum amongst us.
I could understand you being confused, but the wording sounds really off.
I don't understand why Mollie wouldn't reveal her target?? More info = good.
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Post #448 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:44 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 432, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Claim actions? Like where i hid? I hid behind Cakez every night. Mollie was confident he was town and i know he is town because i didnt die but i couldnt come out and say i know he is town because people would question why i knew.
whyyyyyy
tbh this fits into the setup if we want to go speccing that route
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Post #466 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:54 am
Postby SirCakez »
Because by the nature of Jin's claim I'm clear
If I was scum then he couldn't have hid behind me, and there's obviously only one scum left so if he's scum I'm not.
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Post #481 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:52 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 470, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually it's convenient: by hiding behind the same guy, he clears less people.
This is a good point though
In post 475, Gamma Emerald wrote:BBT claim Sophia, I claim Rick Grimes. There's no way those are not in the game. SC is cleared, so it has to be SAJ. VOTE: Secret Agent Jin.
This is stupid, Rick has been a scum fakeclaim before.
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Post #523 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:41 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 507, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well I'm trying to show how I'm not scum currently. If I was scum, I probably would have bussed knightmare sooner, instead of voting him when PM announced the block.
That makes no sense. Knightmare was p widely townread until the block was announced.
In post 506, SirCakez wrote:I'm not going to rush this (and BBT trying to do so is making me paranoid), but you realllly look bad to me right now.
Is there something you're waiting for?
see above
In post 516, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: BBT
This guy's blind tunnel on me, combined with association with knightmare, has convinced me he is scum.
SirCakez, you can either play into scum's hand and vote me, or you can see the the obvious setup and vote BBT. SAJ is a choice you have, but I'm not taking that path. BBT is actually scummy, while SAJ just has a scummy playstyle.
Look at how knightmare read me and SAJ compared to BBT.
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Post #529 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:24 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 524, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was SRing SAJ, but BBT's inability to put up actual reasoning for why I am scum is much worse than anything SAJ has done.
I haven't really said much about why I scumread you either. What's the difference?
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Post #535 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:47 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 532, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I really am struggling to find anything else to say and it seems like some others are too. So, i want to ask Cakez what is holding him back and that might help all of us to answer his concerns.
I'm just very paranoid and I haven't had time to look back over the game. We have a lot of time and I'd like to read back over when I'm not uber frazzled.
In post 524, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was SRing SAJ, but BBT's inability to put up actual reasoning for why I am scum is much worse than anything SAJ has done.
I haven't really said much about why I scumread you either. What's the difference?
A) You're conftown bro.
B) He's had me as a pocket SR for quite a while so I want him to pull up my ISO and point out what he finds scummy.
But before I was conftown you didn't really acknowledge my scumread on you either. I've been pocket scumreading you for a while too.
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Post #541 (isolation #52) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:37 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 535, SirCakez wrote:I'm just very paranoid and I haven't had time to look back over the game. We have a lot of time and I'd like to read back over when I'm not uber frazzled.
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Post #561 (isolation #55) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:55 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 558, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't really know his town game. Remember earlier where I said I sorta thought BBT was a good player? He replaced into a game I was in and tunneled town. But it seems different than last time. Last time there was logic to his thoughts.
I see
Honestly BBT it's a fair request. I still think you're obvtown but some reasoning would be cool.
