STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - SIRCAKEZ & ALMOST50 ALLIANCE

[Varsoon]

Welcome to your Episode 1 Alliance Neighborhood
You may chat here during both the Exposition and Climax phases.
Members of this Alliance may not be killed by any normal killing actions.
If all members of this alliance are voting the same target, an extra vote will be counted against the target--this can not hammer a player.
At Stress +2 or higher, all members of this alliance may use their role's abilities (not Events) as if it were the Season Finale.
Your members include:

SirCakez
Almost50

[Almost50]

So, let me know if I'm dead already!

Also, I hope you like the Event company. I tried my best to pick the towniest I could find.

[Almost50]

Do you realize we effectively can both be double-voters?? Well, not quite, but if we both vote the same person we gain an additional vote from THIS alliance, and if FB+CD+far vote without we gain yet another additional vote, so 5 votes are rendered 7 in effect!

[SirCakez]

Yeah it's pretty great (the extra votes)
I don't want to use it too randomly tho

[Almost50]

Sure. What I meant is we can talk more in here and get some distinctive mutual reads then we can apply that extra vote, and the same goes for the Joy Ride Party.

As you may well know I'm not one to share complete read lists in public, and I suck at giving proper reasoning for them if I do. Currently my reads look something like this (put in a Ranger-esque format):

{mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi}
{Sir Cakez, Foxbird, Skybird, Farside22, Firebringer}
{CooLDoG, Reasonably Rational, killthestory (jumps to top if confirmed IC), McMenno, SnarkySnowman}
{Everybody else} << Null
{Yume, Not Chara, kraskaesque}
{Nobody} << Stong Scum

However, there a lot or room for change/refinement. For example, I'm not even sure if I'm scum reading kraska just bc her play is always irritating to me.

[Almost50]

Cakez, you're worrying me. I thought allying with you would be cool for both of us to take peeks into eachother's minds. It's the closest thing to getting to hydra with you, albeit for one cycle.

[SirCakez]

Sorry, I was out all day and then was busy catching up
Why do you have Yume down in nullscum? She's conftown via Mastin apparently.
Why Obi top town?

Also - I want to try to ally with Mastin tomorrow because my role can help protect her, but I don't think she'll go for it since she's strong scumreading me. I could use your help with that.

[Almost50]

As I mentioned in the Event thread; Obi is semi-confirmed in the Exposition opening VC bottom box. I think the part about finding someone trustworthy .. someone like OWK has been triggered by an action, rather than just flavour. I don't think Varsoon (or any other mod) would put it that way out of thin air.

As for Yume, the main reason is the way she readily confirmed Mastina. I said it in the main thread that -as Town- I would have slept on it for a while to see who would try throw shade on Mas and for what reasons before I confirmed her. As Scum though I'd be throwing that out ASAP for Town cred and -maybe- passing out some sort of a message to my scum buddies. It just didn't feel right that Yume confirmed Mastina so early into the day when Mastina was already universally Town read and in no danger what-so-ever of being wagoned.

[SirCakez]

I read the flavor, I don't understand how it makes them semi-confirmed?

Mastin says that Yume is conftown via her role tho

[Almost50]

Do you think Varsoon put that line about OWK being trustworthy on his own? Like.. the line means nothing but he just felt like it was a good idea to sneak it in there??

My perception is "someone" used an "action" that resulted in that line being put there. The only thing that prevents me from considering it a full mod-confirmation is the possibility of it being a scum ability to broadcast misleading info. I'm not sure what abilities anyone would have (we both know how you can never guess what a Varsoon setup includes or how he tailors his roles), but -apart from that possibility- then I'd say either a town player targeted OWK with an action, or OWK are some sort of a modified IC who asked to be confirmed.

As for Yume, I'm not fully on the top of the subject. Is Mastina's action restricted to succeed on Town only?? It would make sense if that's the case.

[Almost50]

Oh, and about you allying with Mastina.. let's see how the rest of the day goes. I think closer to deadline/a lynch we can see what we can do about it.

[SirCakez]

Where is this line about OWK? I'm not seeing it.

[SirCakez]

Oh I see the line now
I think that's just flavor using random players, there's similar stuff about KTS and Foxbird

[Almost50]

Well, seeing as you're persistent on voting Obi I don't see how you're ever going to win Mastina's trust! You probably ought to accept grapes offer for an alliance in episode 2. Being cleared of any mishaps on the opening 2 nights might help get you in the trust zone later on.

[Almost50]

So, tell me: Why did you ally with me? What made you think I needed protection and/or what did you expect to get from it yourself?

[SirCakez]

Obi is really scummy though :/
I allyed you because the people who I was townreading were already allied and I didn't want to ally someone useless
It wasn't because of the protection tbh

[SirCakez]

I didn't develop the townread on you until after I allied you, to make it clear

[Almost50]

Cakez, are you kidding me? This is KC FGS. The backseat lurker who pops up, quotes a few posts (one by one no less) to add useless commentary, then starts a vanity wagon on someone randomly picked and demands to be sheeped on it. Come on!

Like, if I didn't have my own reads and -gun to my head- I would be more inclined to sheep NOT CHARA over KC. At least NC has been present and reading/responding in the thread, engaging with most every active player there.

In fact, if I wasn't scum reading NC I would have given their reads much more credit. The problem IS that I'm scum reading it/them (I'm trying to get myself to use "it" as "it" has requested, but I just can't get me to do it, so I'm mostly using "them" bc I feel like I'm outright insulting the person by referring to them as an "it").

[Almost50]

No! When YOU give up (as town) you literally throw the gloves. You don't say "I'll still be around all night" and/or "I don't think I'll be lynched today anyway". That's reverse psychology to convey a subconscious message to those hesitant/undecided that it's not a good vote and not worth it.

Now the fact that every other player is dying to get a counter wagon going IS worrying, especially when they're doing it in turns. Now I'm not saying every single one of them is scum, but I think scum are amongst them, and they're waiting for one wagon to take off for them to hop on. That includes the wagon on you, btw, which HAS been started by NC.

[SirCakez]

What is KC FGS?

I never see town give up by leaving the thread. They usually make one post with some comments saying "I give up etc etc", and then keep posting. Like usually only scum dodge out of the thread when they give up.
For example when I give up as town I never outright leave the thread, I usually start getting salty instead (heh)

[Almost50]

What is KC FGS?

Klingoncelt, For God's Sake. You were sheeping her.

[SirCakez]

I was not sheeping her -_-

[Almost50]

You need to find a way to bring firebringer back in PT and get him to vote Shiro with us. She's @4 votes right now, but FB + CD could make it 6, then you alone could bring it up to 9 (your own vote, the extra vote from this PT and the one from Joy Ride).

[SirCakez]

Should I just bluntly tell him to check back in the joy ride?

[Almost50]

i don't know, tbh. This guy is not acting anywhere close to his norm, and I don't mean game-wise. I'm starting to get worried about the person.