Scummer D&D

[DiamondSentinel]

if anyone is interested and doesn't check the arcade itself and only this thread, I'm planning on hosting a holiday campaign next week. Post is here. It's 5E which is simpler than 3.5, but also quite fun if you haven't played it. If you're interested, check out the thread and join!

P.S. Using Claus post as an excuse to shamelessly promote this. ^_^

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, are you planning on ever moving on to something other than 3.5? I just prefer the simplified feeling of 5E.

[DiamondSentinel]

I enjoy 3.5 and PF, but right now I'm in the mood for simpler gameplay. This summer I might join a PF or 3.5 campaign, but while school's going, I'm sticking with 5.

[DiamondSentinel]

Well, the description is unfinished, and all the abilities aren't written, but I present to you:


Danum Argon the Agathian Knight!

[DiamondSentinel]

This was by far my favorite character to make, just because 3.5 is so expanded compared to 5E. I will say it took significantly longer, however...

[DiamondSentinel]

What do you mean for the cash and upgrading gear?

[DiamondSentinel]

Ah, ok.

[DiamondSentinel]

Should I wait until the first session I join to do so, or just go ahead and ask any time I see any of them online?

[DiamondSentinel]

How rude, implying that I'd flake.

But yeah. Hmm... Full Plate would be nice. And maybe a masterwork longsword.

[DiamondSentinel]

Wowwie. That took a long time just setting up 1 macro. But then again, I didn't discover the joy of the wiki until about halfway through.

That wiki is WAY more useful for finding information than the pdf versions of the books.

[DiamondSentinel]

These pages have the description from the book verbatim. I'm not using it to better understand anything, just to find stuff quickly.

[DiamondSentinel]

Man, this side of the site is so much more peaceful than the actual Mafia part.

[DiamondSentinel]

What does this longsword do?

[DiamondSentinel]

By the way, is what I did to my character on there fine?
I put the health in the red circle and AC in the green.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ok. Will do when I get home.

[DiamondSentinel]

Perfect! You can be my cleric slave while I soak up ALL THE DAMAGE.

Also, why'd you choose to multi class in those 3?

[DiamondSentinel]

This'll be my first tank I've ever played in anything, really.

I've done a couple warlocks, a rogue, and a ranger. Of the 3, warlock is my favorite. I don't do well with not damage, but I might as well give it a try!

[DiamondSentinel]

And my Chivalrous knight might have something to say about people taking advantage of others.

Just remember, shields are quite effective weapons, especially when applied to the face.

[DiamondSentinel]

Wat da fuge?

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh, that batman guy.

[DiamondSentinel]

Sounds like fun. Not that I'd know any difference, since this is my first session. But I always love splitting up!

[DiamondSentinel]

It must just never pay off with you because you suck, Who. ^_^

[DiamondSentinel]

FakeGod, why do you enjoy killing PCs so much? Are you secretly a psychopath?

[DiamondSentinel]

Yeah, not only is this my first 3.5E character, but it's my first non-dps character. So... Yeah. Fun! But I'm hoping I'll do good.

Could someone comment on it? Biggest question I had was whether I should specialize in my shield stuff or if I should add some weapon feats.

[DiamondSentinel]

Would that even be chaotic evil? I figured that'd be more LE or NE, since they want to acquire power, not just be evil for the sake of it.

[DiamondSentinel]

Can we challenge them to 1 on 1 combat, to the death?

[DiamondSentinel]

I've been thinking the same this whole week.

[DiamondSentinel]

Wait, we can make EVERY DAY Sunday!

[DiamondSentinel]

Man, I just want to get to playing so I can clear my head from these games... They've been hell

[DiamondSentinel]

Cult of Scarecrow?

Are we suddenly in The Wicker Man?

[DiamondSentinel]

Why not just do a countdown for it?

[DiamondSentinel]

Wait, she was naked?

[DiamondSentinel]

I know. I was joking...

[DiamondSentinel]

I 100% can't do it Saturday.

[DiamondSentinel]

Great. I'm really looking forward to this session. (Even though I haven't even gotten to fight yet. XP)

[DiamondSentinel]

Great news! I can make it Sunday!

[DiamondSentinel]

Please tell me that's just a nice little picture and doesn't pertain to next session whatsoever...

[DiamondSentinel]

i hope you maxed swim

I think I have put some points in it...

Edit: Yeah, I have 4 points in it, and I have 3 STR, so 7 total.

[DiamondSentinel]

Lol. Your negative strength mod. Just stay out of the water and let us big boys take care of the big, bad, scary sea monster.

[DiamondSentinel]

Before you try to swim, note that your masterwork full plate and masterwork heavy shield impose -10 and -2 to swim, respectively.

Oh, joy. I love heavy armor...

Now I remember why I would never roll a heavily armored character.

PEdit: I'm pretty sure the heavy armor is just -5. So I'm neutral.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ah, that's just freaking great.

[DiamondSentinel]

Just a quick notice, I might be like half an hour late.

[DiamondSentinel]

Spoiler: I think someone asked me what I use for my character's image in the rare times I play as a player.

Beautiful picture. Do you remember the source website? I'm starting to make a lot of 3.5 characters (Usually I just make 5E or Pathfinder characters. This is my first 3.5 campaign) and I'd like to look at some good images.

[DiamondSentinel]

Yeah, I figured as much. That's how I am with most of my pictures.

[DiamondSentinel]

@Who - This time absolutely makes sense, since it's proven to be life or death. The other time didn't, to be honest. You had taken a vote, and the group had voted to not go there. The place was rumored (almost proven, but whatever) to be dangerous (source: Ether) and you were going alone. It didn't fit the situation, no matter how reckless your character was.

[DiamondSentinel]

2-5 PST is inconvenient... But I'd have to see.

[DiamondSentinel]

Sorry to ask that, but if that's at all possible, the latter plan would work best for me, tbh.

[DiamondSentinel]

Hmm, I just realized this group is full of leaders.

Danum is the one up in arms to protect the kid, Ether is obviously a natural leader, and Avina is nigh-royalty. My, this is certainly an interesting group.

[DiamondSentinel]

I dunno, it honestly seems to me like this is royalty. Butlers, massive mansions, islands to themselves. It could be a country run by the economic elite.

But either way, she's still high up.

[DiamondSentinel]

So now we're sitting at an interesting situation. We know that there are at least 2 people involved in this plot, likely 3, since 1 would be infiltrated at the mansion, but I doubt they would have disappeared when all that happened. Our party is now a combat party.

Too bad nobody has any sort of telepathic spell...

[DiamondSentinel]

Well, it would possibly help keep people alive when we split up. Also, I always enjoy having more communication.

Also, not that you could use it now, but if you ever become a lvl 13 caster, you could cast permanency on it (for a slightly hefty EXP cost) and then we could always talk to each other!

How romantic!

[DiamondSentinel]

Well, it would possibly help keep people alive when we split up. Also, I always enjoy having more communication.

Also, not that you could use it now, but if you ever become a lvl 13 caster, you could cast permanency on it (for a slightly hefty EXP cost) and then we could always talk to each other!

How romantic!

Not worth it, I have other stuff to do with that xp. Like, for example, permanent Detect Magic or Arcane Sight.

Agreed. Only being able to do it to a single pair wouldn't be worth it. Fortunately, D&D is not like real life, so our enemies don't listen to us if we shout out orders. If that weren't the case, it would be quite useful. ^_^


If you haven't noticed, I'd really enjoy to be telepathic.

[DiamondSentinel]

If that thing attacks us I'm gonna cry

Well, the last time he posted a picture, we DIDNT end up fighting a giant kraken type thing. (Not the squid kraken. The generic sea monster one)

[DiamondSentinel]

If that thing attacks us I'm gonna cry

Well, the last time he posted a picture, we DIDNT end up fighting a giant kraken type thing. (Not the squid kraken. The generic sea monster one)

YET
I suspect that picture relates to the anaconda, so... we didn't fight it YET!
That robot looks kind of friendly though. The wizard who used to live on the island, perhaps?

Yes, in the house that Who nearly died in just from visiting it...

[DiamondSentinel]

Doesn't like trespassers

We've trespassed, ergo I bet we will have to fight it.

[DiamondSentinel]

I didn't! Mwahahaha I'm gonna make friends with the robot

I'll make it my butler. Or my squire.

What kind of robot wouldn't want to be a knight's squire?!

[DiamondSentinel]

A Pacifist 9000 mkII

Then he's my butler. Or shieldboy. Someone to help me don and doff my armor.

[DiamondSentinel]

@Who

Step 1. You buy a flesh golem manual for 8000g from a sketchy black market dude.

Step 2. You dig up graves and steal bunch of bodies without getting caught.

Step 3. You stitch up the bodies together and make the golem's body. (costs 500g, DC 13 Craft leatherworking or DC 13 Heal)

Step 4. You use up the manual. Your alignment shifts one step towards Evil. Now, you're a proud owner of a brand new flesh golem!

Could you potentially kill a bunch of evil people and use their bodies to make a golem?

I'm not comfortable being in a party with an evil person. They kidnap children. ^_^

[DiamondSentinel]

>kidnap a random child
>not evil

I hope your face is fine with taking a shield. Because it's going to.

[DiamondSentinel]

What spells are evil spells? All Necromantic spells?

[DiamondSentinel]

imo make it regular time

Ah well. No matter. We don't need to have a 3 hour session each time.

[DiamondSentinel]

Hey, since FakeGod is busy, I'll do the countdown for him! Consider it a gift for doing all these sessions for us!

The Session today will be 4 hours and 5 minutes from this post.

[DiamondSentinel]

If Evans had LoS to Ether, or if Who flew too close, then he could have destroyed their spell component pouches, which would have made the fight considerably more difficult I think.

ConMan, please change Karl's alignment to Chaotic Neutral.

Wait that can happen?
Is there any way to send away for supplies now that Santa's dead?
If that's a possibility I should get another one, and also we never bought one of every random object now that we have a bag of holding.

And what if he destroyed the bag of holding?! You guys need to brace yourselves before we enter combat in the future.

[DiamondSentinel]

Well, if I were to guess, I'd say that I'm going to be front-line in danger and then take another crit hit and go down before I even get to move.


Also, I love how I rolled a nat-1 on actual initiative, but when we were fighting over the hostage, I rolled a freaking 17. So many useless rolls...

[DiamondSentinel]

So, I've taken to designing a summoner, and at lvl 9 with 18 CHA, you can cast Summon Monster V

7 times per day

It makes me want to just summon sperm whales on top of people to crush them.

[DiamondSentinel]

So, quick question about the Summoner document. It lists Haste as a second level spell, but elsewhere it's only as a third level spell. What's up with that? Would there be lesser effects, and would swiftblade requirements require that you use all of your second level spells slots to cast haste, if you're even concerned with that requirement?

[DiamondSentinel]

it works like haste

we don't use that swiftblade requirement

Ok, cool.

I think that my next character will be a summoner/swiftblade. Summoner only has 14 levels, so I'd need a prestige class or a regular one, and it seems like a cool choice. Also, being able to attack with a permanently summoned minion is cool.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'll be there.

Also, I think that you could use it in the abandoned mansion or at the bridge. The floor will likely be stone, and the bridge is stone. So that's cool.

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh yes, and I will definitely be having the Mending spell for future encounters like that in my summoner.

And at this current time, yes. But still, her class relies upon that pistol.

[DiamondSentinel]

Karl won't be killing anyone, but Danum will likely be confronting him, since he ran off after executing the prisoner.

[DiamondSentinel]

You left unannounced. As far as I know, you went rogue. As a noble knight, I must bring you to justice.

[DiamondSentinel]

GAH! Even when I say I'm going to make a strict mage, I still find myself making something more akin to a thaumaturge...

Of course, it probably doesn't help that Summoner gets Wall of Fire and Fire Shield as far as damaging spells go. But no matter.

[DiamondSentinel]

Exciting! Are we on Eldrazzi patrol now?

[DiamondSentinel]

So what's the deal with casting good/evil spells or chaotic/lawful spells? The Handbook seems to say that it doesn't affect the game in itself, just a couple spells.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ok. Interesting. I mean, it doesn't seem to be that big of a deal for anyone except a conjurer/necromancer, since most evil spells that aren't ____ from/against good or ____ of evil are summon undead or similar, or an abjurer, which seems to have a couple good aligned spells.

Although a Summoner or Druid, like the one I'm designing, would have some problem with Summon _____, since summoning certain creatures/monsters make the spell evil/good/lawful/chaotic.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, for the summoner's Eidolon, the elemental is always the same type, correct? If so, then Air would be the clear choice for the type.

[DiamondSentinel]

Are you gonna do what you did for No's solo or is it something you could do during the session?

If he could get attacked/die, do it with us because I want to see them die.

[DiamondSentinel]

10rounds/min times 30 minutes times 80 ft/round. 24000 feet. That's less than 5 miles. This island isn't too far off the coast.

[DiamondSentinel]

I hope that you're taking full advantage of the innate properties of a bag of holding in this campaign, FG. Particularly its interaction with a Portable Hole...

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh?

Most PCs ask me not to do that, since it favors the NPCs.

Why do you want it in the game?

Because I love ripping holes in reality.

[DiamondSentinel]

Note to self: Don't let Danum near the bag of holding.

Note to self: Acquire sleeping pills/sleep spell for No Two.

[DiamondSentinel]

I hear portable holes are GREAT for that!

[DiamondSentinel]

This is probably the first time in something like this that I honestly have no logical idea what to do... I've been thinking about it. We could go to the ruin, but we'd likely die. We could try going back to the mansion, but I don't know if anything worthwhile would spark from that. The hut on the north beach might prove useful, but I doubt very useful.

This sucks.

[DiamondSentinel]

Hmm. Can I fight Gundabog? He sounds like competition for Alice/Ether.

[DiamondSentinel]

Hmm, we could fight unarmed like REAL MEN.

No armor, no swords, no shields. Just fists.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ok, now I honestly do want to fight him unarmed, just since it sounds like a badass thing to do.

[DiamondSentinel]

"Ah, the life of an adventuring cleric. I remember it well."

"A perpetual struggle to maintain the hit point totals of four or five nigh-suicidal tomb robbers determined to depete them at all costs."

"Like bailing out a sinking ship with a thimble, most days."

-

Malack from Order of the Stick

That reminds me of that new game "Who's Your Daddy".

You either play as a baby trying to find ways to kill itself, or a father trying to prevent that from happening. XD

[DiamondSentinel]

I originally thought that Damian was both the BBG and the Ferromancer Karl fought, but upon further thought, I'm betting that the hooded figure isn't Damian. Unless Damian's skill works both ways ("breathing life" into machines, and taking it away from anything metal, so to speak) or has been corrupted, then we have a Deuteragonist here.

[DiamondSentinel]

I hope that it's Maryjane. That'd just be hilarious. But I doubt that you'd write a twist like that.

Also, I don't think that Luna and Victor are antagonists in this part. Victor is almost definitely not the one that attacked you. If anything, I honestly think that Damian murdered both of them.

[DiamondSentinel]

[Insert DBZ reference here]

[DiamondSentinel]

But regardless.


LEVEL UP

[DiamondSentinel]

Hmm, while I'd LOVE to meet these people in Las Verisa, I wouldn't be much help unless combat.

I would suggest someone else give it a shot.

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh wait. I just realized the entire point of heading over to the other side... I don't read, apparently.

Then yes, I will be accompanying them to the other Lunagard. I'm on a quest to meet as many Lunagards as I possibly can.

[DiamondSentinel]

Well, would you rather go? I'd like to go, but I'm cool with staying.

The only reason I changed my mind was because I didn't read that they were going to meet this new Lovegard. I just thought they were leaving so that they could cherish their happy little lives, what with them nearly dying a lot.

[DiamondSentinel]

Yeah, unless Lorelei is there, I agree that it'd be better for me to go. Stay with your mistress.

[DiamondSentinel]

I will probably be able to, but I'm afraid I won't know if I can for sure until the day of.

[DiamondSentinel]

20 minutes for me and Who.

[DiamondSentinel]

I figured that he was cowardly, so I was GOING to try and scare him with just enough of the truth that he would think "Huh, these guys are dealing with something that could kill me" But, y'know, I got paired with the 3 wisdom kid. I think that I'll keep Two gagged any time I go anywhere with him, and just take off the gag when we're in combat.

[DiamondSentinel]

Lawful doesn't mean that you tell them everything...
I was going to tell him what was necessary to his situation. He had no reason to know about the soul gems or anything. It wasn't that I was hiding it. It was just that Danum wouldn't think that it was necessary to tell him. If he asked about it specifically, then I'd tell him. But him asking why we were there, not what we were there for merited only an explanation as to the situation we were dealing with. Not the specifics

[DiamondSentinel]

Avina should get a rifle in case she needs hella range. I mean, I doubt we'll come across any long range battles for a bit, but you never know. If we're doing a new campaign, then we won't need the money. ^_^

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh... I figured it was just when I had said something as a joke. But ok

[DiamondSentinel]

I hope to God that you aren't drunk from now until Sunday...

[DiamondSentinel]

Haha! You're not an idiot. Just talk to Fakegod.

If you haven't played before, you should watch our next couple sessions.
Fakegod has the stream link.

[DiamondSentinel]

You're quite welcome!

[DiamondSentinel]

We are lacking in long range...

Also, that's a BAD idea, Who. What if the long range is either really dangerous, or needs to be done stealthily? (Like, without IMMEDIATELY alerting them)

Karl can probably do it, but he's not... stable right now. You dimdooring into a melee will get you killed immediately.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ah, another melee character. Fun fun. Yeah, we're definitely weak on range.

[DiamondSentinel]

Aww, but I want Ether to betray us. Maybe we could have epic battles on 3 fronts.

I'm thinking Ether v. Avina and Seline, and then have Karl, Two, Kat, and Lorelei taking on the ruins and whoever is in there, and then Danum duels "Lord" Mycon since he clearly has forsaken the sacred vows that a "Lord" should uphold. (Y'know, knights and all that)



...I should probably never be put in charge of the party because I will get everyone killed for "glory" and a good fight.

[DiamondSentinel]

I mean, I won't be in jail for the rest of the campaign, right?


Right?...

[DiamondSentinel]

Hahaha! Don't worry, LLD. You can't possibly give worse theories than I've given!

[DiamondSentinel]

I mean, I won't be in jail for the rest of the campaign, right?


Right?...

Aren't you too lawful to be jailbroken?

Aww, but I want Ether to betray us. Maybe we could have epic battles on 3 fronts.

I'm thinking Ether v. Avina and Seline, and then have Karl, Two, Kat, and Lorelei taking on the ruins and whoever is in there, and then Danum duels "Lord" Mycon since he clearly has forsaken the sacred vows that a "Lord" should uphold. (Y'know, knights and all that)



...I should probably never be put in charge of the party because I will get everyone killed for "glory" and a good fight.

No.
Avina and I both need to be there for any casterfight if we want to have a good safety margin, Avina and I both need to be at the ruined mansion to deal with the invisible thing, and we don't know enough about Lord Mykon to allow you to fight him alone.

Ether requires one Mage and lots of power. Said power can either be the other Mage or the buffoons. (Said in-character)

Well, Avina is the closest to Ether, so it would be personal, and therefore she'd fight, for story reasons. Also, it'd be smart to have a melee-er there so that someone can try and distract Ether.

[DiamondSentinel]

You know what'd be fun is if we built the Three Musketeers

I think that the Nature Crew would be cool, and then a campaign built around it. But FG doesn't build campaigns around characters. Unfortunate.

[DiamondSentinel]

We need lots for the mansion. Are you forgetting how you nearly died in there?

[DiamondSentinel]

Hmm, I think next time I'm going to make an assassin and kill all the NPCs. That'd be fun.

[DiamondSentinel]

Hahaha! Kat is no substitute for the great Danum Argon!

But what if Ether betrays us INSIDE the ruins? So like, we have to split off, and then she betrays her group! It's a tragedy!

[DiamondSentinel]

Hahaha! Kat is no substitute for the great Danum Argon!

I was here first and you're behind bars.

1. I've done more tanking than you this part.
2. I'm behind bars because of our little wizard friend, who I was even trying to save there!

I am clearly the superior tank.

[DiamondSentinel]

Besides, I thought you were busy looking for this other Lunagarde.

Gee, I wonder who could keep me from doing that? *glares at Who*

I'm

never

waiting up for you again, Who. You can have fun getting arrested on your own while I'm actually doing what I came to do.

We really should start thinking of a way to get you out of prison though.

You probably should, because regardless of how good of a tank you are, you guys will likely need more than one if you're going to get anything done.

[DiamondSentinel]

Can we also buy new soul gems, Brian? I don't think so.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'd rather put a bag in a portable hole.

[DiamondSentinel]

Have you tried, yet?

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh... I didn't know you explicitly said it wouldn't work...

[DiamondSentinel]

Bah, it's the last post of a page. Do you really expect me to read that?

[DiamondSentinel]

Kat vs Danum thing is amusing to read, but your characters are built differently (Kat is off-tank DPS and Danum is support tank) and shouldn't really be compared.

Someone should compile a to-do list in thread, so you guys can figure out where to allocate each player.

I think I'm going to name the female gnome mage Two Prime.

I think the 30 min head start thing we did really help time-wise, and we should do it again for this week if possible.

I really enjoyed reading LLD's theories. Do you guys have anything to add theory-wise?

Yeah, I just like having friendly competition here.

I'm also not sure about my availability this week. I have senior pics sometime Sunday, so I don't know how that'll work.

As for the to-do list, this is as far as I can remember.

1. Attend wedding
   
2. Get Danum out of prison
   
3. Investigate soul gems
   
4. Find Lunagard at the Port
   
5. Investigate the East Wing/Investigate Serria
   
6. Investigate the ruins/Investigate that grotto again
   
7. Kill Mycon
   ...
   
   
8. Profit!

Did I forget anything?

[DiamondSentinel]

You can't just "kill Mycon".

He has done nothing against the law.

Magara's Will leaves all distribution power in his hands, and he DQ'd all heirs, and currently holds full custody over the estate.

Heck, he can kick everyone off the island if he feels like it.

I didn't say

I

would. I simply said the party would.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, Kat can't turn evil because she's a paladin.

[DiamondSentinel]

And blackguard. Point is she won't still be a paladin that way.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, I could kill Mycon if I were doing it to take over the estate. Maybe I'll do that.

[DiamondSentinel]

How would you carry around the cannonballs?

[DiamondSentinel]

wow only strategy you guys came up with to deal with Lord Mycon is to go randomly attack him?

I expected better of you people tsk tsk

Hmm, I feel like enchantment would be useful in this situation. Eh.

The first time that anyone's ever said, "Hmm, I think enchantment would make the situation better and not worse"

[DiamondSentinel]

Problem is, he's not evil. There's obviously more going on here.

I mean, we used Detect Evil at the reading of the will, and nobody flashed. Unless they were able to fool the spell, then at worst, they are neutral.

As for which is more dangerous? Dead Man's Cove. There no solid floor, so that restricts movement. At least at the ruins, we can stand in a decent formation.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'll likely be able to make it. I don't know if I'll be able to come early again, or if I'll even be on time, but I'll make the larger part of it.

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh God... Both tanks gone.

[DiamondSentinel]

Chief, if I can make it, do you want me to show up half an hour early, again?

[DiamondSentinel]

[DiamondSentinel]

Damn you quadz!

[DiamondSentinel]

I feel like it's my duty as a knight to help out Miss Prime as much as possible, so I will likely be running BACK to the jail to talk to her. Besides, I might manage to recruit her to the party.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ooh! I could be a romcom.

The slacker and the do-gooder get together, and fall in love, and eventually marry, after the slacker ends up doing something heartwarming.

Hmm, we could call it, "Gnome-body to Love"

[DiamondSentinel]

Cmon, Who. This is the 60s (the 1560s, but that doesn't matter). Interracial marriage wasn't a thing. You have to marry one of your own race.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm going to be on a plane

Yeah, you'll be on the material plane with us!


Anyone? Ok...

[DiamondSentinel]

No holes in the bag

The material plane is where we are. So yeah. No holes in bags.

[DiamondSentinel]

Good to hear.

Make sure you are caught up on what has happened. (lots of things have happened!)

Important stuff:

No Two got Danum arrested
Fun duel between people, turns out, Elliot is really good guy. Wedding soon.
Lord Mycon (or something like that) is dirtbag, must be killed.


Oh, and No Two has a girlfriend who's a cop. We failed at helping her, though, so as his designated wingman (I got his stuff back, sorta) I gotta go fix it.

[DiamondSentinel]

What are you talking about? I put Mycon. (Yep. Totally did. I don't know what you're talking about)

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh... That might have been useful this fight. That -2 CON (and 10 HP) almost meant the difference between life and death for me.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, Lor has the ring now.

[DiamondSentinel]

So, I'm quite excited for next session.

Of course, it's obvious we will need some help, so I propose that we amass an army. Now, I do have a plan to do this.

Firstly, when Avina and/or I break the news to Elliot, I think that we try to convince him and Julia to join us at the mansion. I think that this would definitely help us out, and might not be that hard, if we appeal using Prim and William's memory (not like coerce them into helping, but like, genuinely ask them to help).
Secondly, I elect that at least 2 from Karl, Kat, and Two go to the port and talk to Two Prime, ask her to help us to get revenge for Obob. Actually, not revenge. That's the wrong word for her. Probably justice would be good.
Thirdly, we need to get Serria to join us. She seems to feel remorseful about this, and this'd be the perfect chance for her to atone.

With them, that'd be at least 4 strong NPCs helping us out. We might even be able to get more.


Of course, if FG thinks this is either a. too OP, or b. too akin to Leadership feat, then that's cool too. I think that it'd be a great point to get some good leadership play from Avina here, uniting an entire group of people to save her family's island.

[DiamondSentinel]

So now it looks like Victor is the only one of the trio who could be evil now.


RIP

[DiamondSentinel]

HA! I was half right! Damian

is

evil!


Sorta...

[DiamondSentinel]

I wouldn't think so, since using a wand is a standard action in itself.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ohai SXTLH. I was you in Antihero v. Fakegod Mafia.

Anyways, I love looking at the magic items in the DMs guide. I love the description of the necklace of fireballs.

If the necklace is worn or carried by a character who fails her saving throw (why do they assume everyone in these books is female?) against a magical fire attack, the item must make a saving throw as well... If the necklace fails to save, all its remaining spheres detonate simultaneously, often with regrettable consequences for the wearer.

I love the potential for 56d6 damage on the character if they haven't used it yet and they have a full type VII necklace. Just imagining all the little pieces of the character flying everywhere.

[DiamondSentinel]

Haha. I originally was going to look for a portable hole, but the party wouldn't let me, and turns out FG doesn't even use the interaction between a portable hole and bag of holding.

[DiamondSentinel]

Hey, since I've got 3 weapons and 2 shields I'm carrying around, can I carry the less cool bag of holding? We have a second, and It'd be cool as a portable armory.

[DiamondSentinel]

Happeh scum day, Fakegod! Thanks for the campaigns, yo!

[DiamondSentinel]

Mick, you know nobody else here is Irish. We can't all celebrate it like you can. Some of us don't even drink.

[DiamondSentinel]

Mick, what is Saint Patty even the patron saint of?!

[DiamondSentinel]

Can we have a D&D campaign in Ireland next time, please? Or in like a Nordic/Japanese Feudalistic, Clan-Based setting. That'd be cool.

[DiamondSentinel]

Medieval Ireland sounds awesome.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'll be there, but I'll have to leave for an hour. I have to get my picture taken at the high school. Ugh

[DiamondSentinel]

I dunno, I don't post pics of myself online. Don't use social media either.

[DiamondSentinel]

Fairies steal babies and replace them with their own, they are terrifying little bastards. The fear of Fairies runs so deep that, when they build motorways here, they divert the path of the road so they don't have to dig up fairy/ringforts. No word of a lie.

Fae are wonderful... They are divine guardians of the forests and all denizens within. I don't know what you did to piss them off.

[DiamondSentinel]

How much would it cost to get +1 full plate? I just want to make my main gear magical so it can't be destroyed by non-demons.

[DiamondSentinel]

We had the full party there today!

And it was basically a pure exploration and combat challenge!

Probably my favorite session so far.

Oh, I see. Because I was gone for half of it...

My favorite session would probably be last session. Just the sheer amount that we were set on edge that combat.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm almost certainly going transmuter next campaign. Now I just need to find a good prestige class progression.

Swiftblade is good for one transmuter spell.

Are you going to be thaumaturge (combat spells like haste, animal trait spells, etc.) or traditional transmuter (more transmuting mundane materials)?

[DiamondSentinel]

Swiftblade loses caster levels. Rule 1 of prestiging as a wizard is don't give up caster levels.
I would be going combat focused. Haste/Slow, not the animal trait spells because they're not good enough, Enlarge/Reduce, etc.
And actually I'm not sure, because I cannot find any good level 2 transmutation spells other than rope trick.

Yeah, I was joking about swiftblade.

The mass versions of the trait spells are good, and a swift version (with either quicken or a swift variant, if possible)

[DiamondSentinel]

Actually I don't know what I'm doing. Pure transmuter looks boring though.

I'll see what everyone else is and then pick out of {Control, Damage, Cleric, Sorc, Cabbage} depending on what appears to be missing.

You should play a cabbage. I could use a slaw wizard.

[DiamondSentinel]

If I go cabbage I was thinking halfling monk into master thrower, possibly making a ranged sunder build like Evans used.

You better be able to use those knives for Cole slaw

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, at this point, I would consider another class, but I really have a good vision of my character, and I don't know if any other classes could work like that. I might be able to use a class with a familiar or ranger for it, but I don't know.

[DiamondSentinel]

We should definitely invest in an align weapon wand.

[DiamondSentinel]

Swiftblade seems to require at least 4 levels in it to be very powerful.

[DiamondSentinel]

yeah, it's a shame

everyone is being so wishywashy with their characters and no one is locking in anything

at this rate brian will have to pick barbarian and carry cabbage again

Hey hey hey, I'm just looking for a fancy supporty type build.

[DiamondSentinel]

Would a diviner work? It seems cool but I can't figure out what you'd actually do in combat.

Do an enchanter, and then die to every undead/construct you face.

[DiamondSentinel]

Would a diviner work? It seems cool but I can't figure out what you'd actually do in combat.

Do an enchanter, and then die to every undead/construct you face.

I tried that, ate a TPK, 0/7 would not recommend.

How about an Arabic evocationist.

Take someone's broom of flying, and you'd be a force to be reckoned with.

[DiamondSentinel]

Is that like evoker?

I tried evoker, ate a TPK, 2/7, would not recommend.

Oh, also, spontaneous divination from Complete Champion, you have to know the divination spell you're spontaneously using, right?

yep

it's not that good

All I want is ultimate cosmic power, is that too much to ask?

It was a terrorism joke.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ohh. Sorry, I failed to automatically see the link between arabic and terrorist. But yeah, that sounds pretty much guaranteed to end in a TPK, -5/7.

GDI YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY -9/11!!!

[DiamondSentinel]

So role wise who's doing what?

I'm doing support early game, more than likely. May try to level out some DPS later game.

[DiamondSentinel]

Can we all be wildlings ? Like, nobody likes people at all. That'd be a hilarious campaign. Just kill everyone who does anything to screw us over, but don't kill a single animal.

[DiamondSentinel]

FakeGod, how does a bard do in terms of support? I think I might roll Dave Grohl next time.

[DiamondSentinel]

What is cabbage... I don't know lingo.

[DiamondSentinel]

I mean, it is a support class...

[DiamondSentinel]

FG just for a food for thought is evil cleric allowed

In 3.5 clerics can be 1 alignment off in either direction from their deity, so yes, if your deity is neutral (but not true neutral, iirc, or it might be the other way around) or if they are evil.

Paladins can't, however.

[DiamondSentinel]

I could do it. Maybe a no-combat expedition with enchantment magic.

[DiamondSentinel]

Uh, DS, you do know that we're not doing any non-combat, right?

With an enchanter and good enough DCs on

charm

spells, everything can be non-combat.

[DiamondSentinel]

Uh, DS, you do know that we're not doing any non-combat, right?

With an enchanter and good enough DCs on

charm

spells, everything can be non-combat.

Hmm, that sounds like it would require lots of brains.
Brains...
BRAIIINNSSS!!!!

Roll initiative.

Original Roll String: 1d20+2 (STATIC)

1 20-Sided Dice: (1)+2 = 3

Edit: shit

[DiamondSentinel]

I might. I have 3 I'm considering. Enchanter, Summoner, or (unlikely) Bard.

[DiamondSentinel]

I might. I have 3 I'm considering. Enchanter, Summoner, or (unlikely) Bard.

I seem to also recall that you were considering warlock, or are you no longer interested in it?

I may be a tanky thing.

What do you have in mind?

Not really anymore. It looks cool, but there doesn't seem to be much room for variance.

[DiamondSentinel]

How about I give you reduce person

Both of them might have it. I won't be barring transmutation for the enchanter, and the summoner is practically only transmutation spells.

[DiamondSentinel]

How about I give you reduce HP

If you could use it on me that would be great, thanks.
That+Spiked Chain+Morphic Reach will allow me to hit enemies 25 feet away. (Well, actually 5 squares away, apparently there's a weird rule where I can hit enemies who are 5 squares diagonal from me as well) And they'll think they're safe while they're 25 feet away because morphic reach is hidden like that.

If I do my job properly, you won't have to hit anything unless it's artificial, undead, or demonic.

[DiamondSentinel]

How about I give you reduce HP

If you could use it on me that would be great, thanks.
That+Spiked Chain+Morphic Reach will allow me to hit enemies 25 feet away. (Well, actually 5 squares away, apparently there's a weird rule where I can hit enemies who are 5 squares diagonal from me as well) And they'll think they're safe while they're 25 feet away because morphic reach is hidden like that.

If I do my job properly, you won't have to hit anything unless it's artificial, undead, or demonic.

If magic boy no do job then magic boy better make Saag big or Saag smack magic boy when Saag done making enemies be dead.

My job is to make it so you don't have to hit them.

[DiamondSentinel]

How about I give you reduce HP

If you could use it on me that would be great, thanks.
That+Spiked Chain+Morphic Reach will allow me to hit enemies 25 feet away. (Well, actually 5 squares away, apparently there's a weird rule where I can hit enemies who are 5 squares diagonal from me as well) And they'll think they're safe while they're 25 feet away because morphic reach is hidden like that.

If I do my job properly, you won't have to hit anything unless it's artificial, undead, or demonic.

If magic boy no do job then magic boy better make Saag big or Saag smack magic boy when Saag done making enemies be dead.

If you choose to hit them, I am not held accountable.

Will do.

FTFTFY

[DiamondSentinel]

If you do that, I will use my own magic on you to force you to fight.

[DiamondSentinel]

o shoot

let's not b rash, gif

[DiamondSentinel]

I really wish that Duskblade had more than just half a good spell list. It has like half of the decent transmutation spells, and pretty good damaging spells, but they are missing the better support ones...

[DiamondSentinel]

I am, somewhat. The problem is, if I were going to do that niche, I would prestige class as swiftblade at some point, and it doesn't learn haste.

[DiamondSentinel]

Hmm, if you are just seeking to enter swiftblade, why not just go sorcerer 6 into Swiftblade?

Sorcerer has BAB issues that you were also concerned about with my summoner build. If I were going to have poor BAB id go summoner since it has just the spells I need.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm not playing LG.

Lawful Good is great if A. You have people (coughkarlcoughnotwocough) who make your LG life hell or B. Helpless people to protect.

[DiamondSentinel]

Ok, can we seriously have the entire party CN except for one person who is LG? That'd be AMAZING

[DiamondSentinel]

Screw BAB, DS. You get to use the wizard spell list if you go sorcerer (or wizard).

But then what's the point in swiftblade?

[DiamondSentinel]

If I were just going for the spell list, I'd say screw swiftblade, and use haste to pump out 2 spells per turn.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm sorry I'm a picky customer.

[DiamondSentinel]

If I were just going for the spell list, I'd say screw swiftblade, and use haste to pump out 2 spells per turn.

You can't, that's 3.0.

If it's a casting time of 1 standard action, I should be able to...

[DiamondSentinel]

Brian, if you are going wizard, which school are you going to specialize and ban? (or are you going generalist?)

I haven't thought about it since I literally only considered Wizard/Sorcerer after seeing the new party composition.

Transmutation honestly seems like the best to specialize in, even if you are using different school mainly, or possibly conjugation/abjuration. Support spells, teleport, or shield spells seem like the ones you'd need extra slots for, but I don't see a point in knowing tons of conjugation/abjuration spells, and there are so many transmutation ones to know.

[DiamondSentinel]

Why enchantment? Its not worth specializing in, but it's useful at higher levels when you can force people to fight amongst themselves.