In post 674, BuJaber wrote:If NM had answered my questions with anything other than 'maybe' I probably would have unvoted. I tried to squeeze something out of him. He's too hard to sort with his playstyle and my gut told me scum this game. The fact that cheeky was so sure gives me pause. You know what let's shoot cheely first. I think GL was too inactive. He can't be partners with another lurker.
Why do you feel the need to justify yourself for the lynch here? Before anyone said anything about it?
Also if anybody got a guilty .. claim please. We can win this but we have to catch all scum today.
Cop is only on even nights.
Complete NAI this post. The first question feels forced.
How? And, if it's forced, wouldn't that make it scummy? Why say it's NAI? If it were NAI, why respond at all?
I think I'm okay consolidating back on this, initially it was a question of lynch vs no lynch but now I actually feel semi-okay about this.
I don't think so.
That's not a reason at all that something points to me. It's circular logic that already assumes that I'm scum. Does nobody else see this?
And, rask put that vote there when end of day was approaching and I hadn't been around for a while. He had me as his strongest townread before. Still haven't said why it points to me.
Based on your case from D1? That was completely based on my 'empty' posts. Do you think that is still true right now?
I've misread you before in the past. I'm willing to discuss here.
Want your thoughts on zzzzx and Cheeky specifically
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
In post 713, BuJaber wrote:BTW the scum game I am talking about korina was love's scum partner.
And now korina has talked about the same game.
One of them is definitely scum. If korina is town and agrees with me that his own partner in that game is playing the same way in this game this is quite strong meta evidence against love.
No, it's not, and this makes me really mad. It's just pushing an agenda. None of you actually have a comparison for my town game. This exact argument was made before, and people were wrong there too. It also looks like maybe setting up Korina for a mislynch after I flip just for being wrong. Really hate this.
In post 756, Iconeum wrote:Based on your case from D1? That was completely based on my 'empty' posts. Do you think that is still true right now?
I've misread you before in the past. I'm willing to discuss here.
Want your thoughts on zzzzx and Cheeky specifically
I guess I could vote Bujaber instead. Really feels like disingenuous points from both. Nothing from zzx I've read today and he just lurked yesterday, think Cheeky is probably town.
In post 716, BuJaber wrote:If for some reason Korina is trying to pull off a spectacular bussing tactic then at lylo you lynch him as a policy just to avoid this (Unless one of the other two players are guiltied obviously).
Because if love is scum I can't imagine korina being kept alive by scum so he would have to be the scum.
In post 719, BuJaber wrote:Hmmm.. just read love's ISO. Inconclusive. I thought it'd make me more sure she was scum but no I feel just as unsure. There's a chance lynching korina first is better. But definitely one of them is scum. (Both if like I said korina is attempting a weird gambit)
I never do this cold meta stuff but I think I have to...
Love can you link me a few recent town games?
Also can you tell me why you are town here in your own words?
Idk, I just feel like I've played my natural towngame here and it should be obvious. Didn't have to fake anything being scum. And, I guess it's arrogant, but as scum I don't think people would be suspecting me like this. Only seems to actually happen when I'm town.
In post 725, GreenLiquid wrote:Raskie didn't have any strong reads and he was sort of all over the place at the end of the day, so while I agree with the read on Love overall, I'm pinged by the fact that you've been leaning so hard on this night-kill-based logic right out out of the gate, which is IMO easily one of the weakest reasons to scum read Love. This gives me the feeling of scum who planned what narrative they wanted to spin around the kill but is coming in a bit too hot.
This. The logic really doesn't make sense to me. So, it looks to me like either scum or strong confbias.
In post 733, BuJaber wrote:Zz is a bad lynch today because I don't think there's any chance both korina/love are town. So since one of them has to be scum let's find out who and kill them then determine if zz works as their partner.
Why can't we both be town? Without reasoning, seems like shading on two widely scumread slots, setting up mislynches.
In post 736, BuJaber wrote:So korina replaced in and backed my meta read on love without any prompting for me.
So unless you think the scumteam is literally me and korina; then korina is either backing up that meta read to get town love mislynched, OR he is town..
Nobody "backed up" anything. Just said vaguely it "looks like my scumgame", without my towngame to compare.
Want to hear more from Korina. Kind of concerned how serious he's being. I think he's more joking around as town, where he was really nervous and serious when we were scum.
Maybe he said something about my scum meta to pre-empt me saying something about his.
In my opinion it could be GL, or you, or cheeky or possibly love.
That is too many people. Most of them in your town pool
And if you agree that love could be his partner then lynch love first.
Also lol at GL being the strongest townread.
Maybe we should lynch Ico.. everytime I start to townread him he posts some weird ass post that makes me question him again.
It would make love and cheeky happy at least coz I don't think ico makes sense with love as a team.
If I don't include GL as my townread, I literally have 0 townreads.
And there have to be 4 others.
At this point it's not even about finding the partner, it's about lynching the one we are most sure flips scum.
Connections can be made on the following day.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
I am going to give love a chance. Seems his posts are generally small and somewhat NAI in general. Not clearing him but I think an Icon flip is gonna be helpful here.
And I realized the love/korina not town together kind of assumes ico is town. If ico is scum there's a huge flaw.
Just townreading GL is scummy as all hell. Ico is also a strong townplayer who is difficult to scumread and usually doesn't let inconsistencies and scummy posts fly without scrutiny. He seems rather lazy here. Also he keeps getting cold feet around wagons. He didn't vote for NM. IN FACT he has been tunneling on icon all game and now that we have a real shot at lynching love he's focusing on zzz instead? Why?
If you notice a few posts earliet he said if love flips scum I would be conftown. So we have a wagon that all game long he has been pushing AND if it flips scum it clears another player from his POV AND he doesn't like the counter wagons (me, korina, cheeky earlier) but he still isn't happy lynching Lovebird?
Yeeeeaaah I haven't been noticing this before but this is looking like damning evidence.
Icon is scum. GL is likely his partner. If not GL it's Korina or possibly cheeky.
But it's probably GL.
Icon/GL scumteam. I was right from the very fucking start with my two scumpools.
If icon is town we lynch love. If love is also town we fucking lose because fuck this game and fuck lurkers.
Pedit - zzz is a bad lynch why is he most likely to flip scum. He is scummy but not most likely to flip scum. Other people are also scummy. And you've been changing your mind too many times with me.
Like even now you say it's probably zz/love but choosing to lynch zz. You say I could flip scum but if love is scum I am conftown. From your pov love is the best lynch..You not wanting to now is crazy.
And what evidence is there than GL is town. I can only personally clear GL by PoE depending on who flips scum. Nothing in his play is particularly townie.
