In post 920, Iconeum wrote:Stop scumreading me if ur town. The case on me is just bad. I only had low content early D1. Focus elsewhere.
I'm not getting lynched today.
Will respond to the rest in a bit but I really don't buy this soft-claim here. I think we have enough concensus on Iconeum being scum that having a claim might be a good idea.
Rolefishing on L-2? Maybe I was thrown off by your catch up and ur scum after all.
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Lol. Doesn't change much. If I was scum I'd claim cop or doc to draw out the actual PR so I'm not claiming anything specifically.
The other PR knows what to do tonight.
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In post 930, Iconeum wrote:Lol. Doesn't change much. If I was scum I'd claim cop or doc to draw out the actual PR so I'm not claiming anything specifically.
The other PR knows what to do tonight.
I think everyone knows what you are based on this.
@GreenLiquid, it seems like our major area of disagreement is Lovebird. Let's discuss then what you think her scum motives are. Which moves in her posting do you think could come from conscious scum? I'll go over your ISO to check but if you're online, I'd rather talk about it in real time. Would you still consider Lovebird if Iconeum flips scum? I think the fact that Lovebird has focused pretty intensely on Iconeum clears them as partners even if you aren't convinced individually. Can you remind me what your read on Korina is?
In post 910, CheekyTeeky wrote:BlackVoid you do realise you're allowed to vote your strongest scum read right?
I'd rather be the one to declare intent if that's cool. I have my reasons and I'll explain them in time but bear with me here.
In post 931, CheekyTeeky wrote:BlackVoid can you please give scum team predictions based on Ico flipping either alignment? GL and Bu same question.
Pretty sure Iconeum is scum and Korina is the partner. If Iconeum flips town, I'd have to do some major re-evaluation but I can't see how I'm wrong. The "parroting" tell is something I've found extremely reliable and almost never comes from town. But as a thought experiment, if Icon is town, I'd still say Korina because I townread everyone else. I'd be less sure on my townread of Lovebird if it turns out she was pushing a townie all game but she still seems really genuine.
In post 930, Iconeum wrote:Lol. Doesn't change much. If I was scum I'd claim cop or doc to draw out the actual PR so I'm not claiming anything specifically.
The other PR knows what to do tonight.
No, this is exactly what you'd do as scum because if you claim either, you'll get cc'd and the chances of people believing you over the other person are pretty small. This way, you can leave some ambiguity, get a town lynch in Lovebird and survive to the next phase because neither PR can cc you because they don't know that you can't be the other one.
Ico once Korina replacement comes and we decide we're ready to lynch I think you owe town an explanation so we can look at counter claims and N1 actions to be better prepared for LYLO. It's kind of anti-town to save that info in an open setup. You're dying either way tonight if town, so at least give us enough info to PoE our reads and try to lynch scum today instead (when we're ready to lynch i.e. L-1 not while we're waiting.) This will result in one of our PRs dying tonight but if we get a scum lynch it's worth it imo.
Since you guys are still considering lynching me after claiming PR:
Claiming doc. I didn't want to claim, because now scum can just choose not to kill me and have a shot at the cop. They kill me on the next night.Otherwise I had a good chance of eating the bullet.
Though, I'm not sure they want to deal with a confirmed Iconeum on the next day.
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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I was expecting scum to fake-claim cop here since that's the role people most likely to not be lynched today so that doc claim is throwing me off. I think everyone should confirm whether or not they are the doc so we can see if there are any counterclaims.
In post 775, Iconeum wrote:I'm focusing on zzzx more? Have you been reading at all?
All i've done is trying to get a wagon going on Lovebird. I've been the biggest advancer of Love lynch ALL FUCKING GAME. I was opposed to an 'HEY LETS LYNCH A NO INFO NM ' all game.
Saying I don't want a love lynch is really a giant misrep.
i'm looking for other suspects. zzzzx is higly suspicious.
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Do consider
all options here.
I crumbed a bit as well.
Rawr!
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Hi sorry.. this is gonna be a prodge mostly. Still waiting for korina replacement.
I am not doc.
If icon is scum - korina slot and GL would be my top two for partners.
If icon is town - love looks bad, Void looks bad, could make a case for GL and cheeky also. And korina can ve scum in this scenario also though that is less likely with scum love.
This is a somewhat difficult situation because I feel love/ico wagons have polarized the game. At the same time I think GL could easily be scum here but I seem to be the only person scumreading him. This makes me think maybe he is town but more importantly if he is town then the people confidently townreading him over nothing (imo) are scum. (Such as Ico, cheeky (very early townread of GL), love)
I think love/korina can't both be scum. Either of them flipping scum clears the other. But if one flips town it doesn't unfortunateky gurantee the other is scum.
BV's catchup posts are pretty good as far as catchup posts go and he's much better than zz for the game progression. I just worry about auto townreading him for it too soon.
Anyway since a claim occurred then I think it's pretty straight forward. If nobody CC's we lynch love. If somebody CC's we lynch Ico. If someone counterclaims and ico is town they scumclaimed obviously.
I am not saying ico being town definitely means love is scum. But I have enough reasons to vote for either of them and I was more inclined to vote for love over ico before the claim - doubly so after the claim. I think they both make great info lynches even if you don't scumread them but for me the people I specifically scumread for their individual play are love, Ico and GL in no particular order. The rest I am having trouble sorting them on their own play and would need to see a flip first because I think they are sortable by assocoations.
