Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

[Quick]

Why would scum me not call you town?

So you don't look bad after you keell me.

There is 0% chance I would NK you

I am also TRing NM for this.

[MOMOMEN]

I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

what do you mean TOP priority? it's my priority because they're confirmed town and we literally cannot lynch xcum without their vote. you know they dont have an agenda. basic theory questions should be asked in mafia discussion in the future.

I think I understand that theory fine. I mean, you can try and play it off like I DON'T get that theory but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't just wait around for someone else to vote a certain way, whether they are confirmed or not. Like, you're not even making a push on NM... You just keep harassing me and doing a bunch of ad hom. You've basically just said "I have no power in this game, I will just blindly follow the IC" that is Scummy M8. If you actually wanted to get somewhere with me, you would try and reason with me. But you haven't really reasoned with anyone all game.

I have reasoned plenty this game you conf biased arrogant shitfuck. I actively tried to work with you. you wuickvoting today means you lose any silver of respect I didnt have left. I am not going to coddle you like a fucking child. I dont need to push nm, I told pintu I thought he was xcum, I've given reasons all game, you being town is enough to make his slot scum. you havent tried to talk to me all game, you've tunneled me as xcum from early day 1 and miraculously your alive in lylo..my previous post towncased us pretty much past the point of doubt and you're still being a belligerent redacted. redacted redacted, so no, pintu can reason with you and if you stick to your flabby ass guns then we will lose and I can happily never play with you again.

[MOMOMEN]

I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

yes, because you're quickvoting the person almost every single dead townie and the ic have called town in mylo. among other reasons. you deserve to be condescended to.

And what do you deserve for being an asshole?

to never play with you again

Thanks God honestly. I think you are a piece of shit of a person honestly.

Cool. Right back at you redacted sack of redacted redacted redacted.

[Quick]

I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

what do you mean TOP priority? it's my priority because they're confirmed town and we literally cannot lynch xcum without their vote. you know they dont have an agenda. basic theory questions should be asked in mafia discussion in the future.

I think I understand that theory fine. I mean, you can try and play it off like I DON'T get that theory but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't just wait around for someone else to vote a certain way, whether they are confirmed or not. Like, you're not even making a push on NM... You just keep harassing me and doing a bunch of ad hom. You've basically just said "I have no power in this game, I will just blindly follow the IC" that is Scummy M8. If you actually wanted to get somewhere with me, you would try and reason with me. But you haven't really reasoned with anyone all game.

I have reasoned plenty this game you conf biased arrogant shitfuck. I actively tried to work with you. you wuickvoting today means you lose any silver of respect I didnt have left. I am not going to coddle you like a fucking child. I dont need to push nm, I told pintu I thought he was xcum, I've given reasons all game, you being town is enough to make his slot scum. you havent tried to talk to me all game, you've tunneled me as xcum from early day 1 and miraculously your alive in lylo..my previous post towncased us pretty much past the point of doubt and you're still being a belligerent redacted. redacted redacted, so no, pintu can reason with you and if you stick to your flabby ass guns then we will lose and I can happily never play with you again.

You realize you can't lynch NM without me right? So it's obviously between me and you because I am not moving my vote. My guess is that you are just waiting until Pint "doesn't like me enough" to vote me. You're making zero effort to convince me that NM is Scum. I just don't understand how you can play like this knowing that at some point I have to vote NM and I am not going to.

[Mathdino]

This past page between Quick and MOMOMEN has crossed the line. Please remember that this:

5.

Don't be a jerk.

Use common sense. Abusive behavior, game-irrelevant harassment, slurs, and threats will not be tolerated. You should play to win, but you should also be considerate to the other humans playing this game. Breaking this rule in particular can make things very unfun. I do not want to see that happen.

is a site rule, and this:

18.

This is a game, remember to have fun!

Remember that as mafia is a social/debate game, it's okay to attack people's play, but it's never okay to attack the person. It's just a game. Play nice.

is my rule.

Further issues will result in force-replacement.

[MOMOMEN]

I'm done posting here. pintu, figure out how to force quick to vote nm and we win. hes town. or, we lynch him ove ra mo lynch 24h yo deadline. prodging from here bye

[Quick]

VOTE: ceejay

This is a bad lynch

I also see little to any reason why NM would point out that this was a bad lynch as Scum here. People were automatically expective NM to hammer, which kinda forced him into the situation where he sorta had to hammer.

[Quick]

And someone was making the argument that when NM was invested and "playing" that he was Town, but that because of the "toxicity" of this game that NM had lost interest which made NM more likely to be Town.

Also, this solution is pretty simple: If NM is Town like I think they are, then I am making the right play. If NM is Scum, well then I don't see myself ever NOT PLing Not_Mafia EVER again. It's really up to NM if they want to play an unreadable playstyle, but if they do and i am in a game with them, then I PL them in every game we play together.

[pinturicchio]

Well in my position, there are three posibilities, and from those three posibilities comes other two:
NM is scum, we either win or lose against him
MOMO is scum, we either win or lose against him
Quick is scum, we either win or lose against him

From best to worst situation: Quick is scum and we win; MOMO is scum and we win; NM is scum and we win; NM is scum and we lose; MOMO is scum and we lose; or Quick is scum and we lose.

A little explanation: Quick has been a terrible player to be with, he has almost not contributed anything pro town, unless creating an hostile environment, scumreading every single player and basically stagnating the game could be considered pro town. If he's scum, he doesn't deserve the win, and emotionally I really don't want him to win.
Losing to MOMO is a close second, but because Quick would come with the oh so great I told you so argument.
NM is NM, I would honestly laugh if he won this one.

I come to this site to have fun, not to demonstrate how smart I am or to make others and myself believe I'm smarter than I really am. This is all just a game after all, guys, not real life. I don't feel I have to demonstrate anything to any of you, since I have a great life, full of struggles, but it has been a wonderful ride along with my friends and family.

So guess what: I don't even care if I lose, winning wouldn't give me any more joy than a simple "yay". Of course it would be great to win, I think I deserve it since I played wonderful as a Hider and got a great early read on Mutant, but when there's people here who clearly comes with the intention to win at all cost not even bothering what everyone else is thinking, I won't be by your side.

So, in conclusion: as you see from the six posibilities, each pairing rounds up equally, so if I'm a risk adverse person, I would choose NM; if I'm a risk lover person, I would choose Quick; and if I'm a risk neutral person, I would go with any of you. It depends on the situation, but I'm often adverse to risk. In this case, I just wanna lynch Quick. Consider this a policy lynch, 'cause you deserve it more than anyone else I've played with, and that includes Boonskiies for the record (no hard feelings, Boon)

VOTE: Quick

[Quick]

VOTE: MuantDevle

NM voting Mutant here is a good look for them IMO.

mutantdevle
jjh927
havingfitz
Alonzo

Scum is in that block via PoE

Does NM really put both his Scum buddies in the PoE pool? I find that a little hard to believe, honestly. There's really no reason for him to do that as Scum here. He could have had a PoE of a lot of different people here but he puts both flipped Scum in the PoE here.

VOTE: Mutant

Too slow

I like this comment here with the hammer because it shows he had little hesitation once he made up his mind.

Pls stop using MU terms

What's spewed?

And in this post I am saying NM is Town but he still comes off like he doesn't like what I am doing. No reason to do that as Scum.

[Quick]

Well in my position, there are three posibilities, and from those three posibilities comes other two:
NM is scum, we either win or lose against him
MOMO is scum, we either win or lose against him
Quick is scum, we either win or lose against him

From best to worst situation: Quick is scum and we win; MOMO is scum and we win; NM is scum and we win; NM is scum and we lose; MOMO is scum and we lose; or Quick is scum and we lose.

A little explanation: Quick has been a terrible player to be with, he has almost not contributed anything pro town, unless creating an hostile environment, scumreading every single player and basically stagnating the game could be considered pro town. If he's scum, he doesn't deserve the win, and emotionally I really don't want him to win.
Losing to MOMO is a close second, but because Quick would come with the oh so great I told you so argument.
NM is NM, I would honestly laugh if he won this one.

I come to this site to have fun, not to demonstrate how smart I am or to make others and myself believe I'm smarter than I really am. This is all just a game after all, guys, not real life. I don't feel I have to demonstrate anything to any of you, since I have a great life, full of struggles, but it has been a wonderful ride along with my friends and family.

So guess what: I don't even care if I lose, winning wouldn't give me any more joy than a simple "yay". Of course it would be great to win, I think I deserve it since I played wonderful as a Hider and got a great early read on Mutant, but when there's people here who clearly comes with the intention to win at all cost not even bothering what everyone else is thinking, I won't be by your side.

So, in conclusion: as you see from the six posibilities, each pairing rounds up equally, so if I'm a risk adverse person, I would choose NM; if I'm a risk lover person, I would choose Quick; and if I'm a risk neutral person, I would go with any of you. It depends on the situation, but I'm often adverse to risk. In this case, I just wanna lynch Quick. Consider this a policy lynch, 'cause you deserve it more than anyone else I've played with, and that includes Boonskiies for the record (no hard feelings, Boon)

VOTE: Quick

You realize I didn't have an ounce of toxicity in me until momo showed up, right?

[Quick]

And it's totally not fair at all to say I haven't done anything Pro-Town all game.

[pinturicchio]

Yeah, and you got toxic with Boon in our other game because Boon got toxic before you

[Quick]

Yeah, and you got toxic with Boon in our other game because Boon got toxic before you

Believe it or not, that is not the norm for me. Not like you are likely to find out because you are probably just going to blacklist me.

I don't do well with other people who think they are better than me.

[Eddie Cane]

I think you're town and while the bottom 1% of players can gamethrow whenever they feel like and blame the other person later us not shit players actually care about who we vote in lylo, so no, as every one of my posts for the past 100 pages have said you're town and I am not voting you unless pintu forces me

So why are you not voting NM?

we have an ic. they decide the lynch. sorry, forgot we need to do basic mafia theory with you.

You are quite condescending. If you think NM is the only viable Scum, you vote there. Why is sheeping the IC you TOP priority?

what do you mean TOP priority? it's my priority because they're confirmed town and we literally cannot lynch xcum without their vote. you know they dont have an agenda. basic theory questions should be asked in mafia discussion in the future.

I think I understand that theory fine. I mean, you can try and play it off like I DON'T get that theory but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't just wait around for someone else to vote a certain way, whether they are confirmed or not. Like, you're not even making a push on NM... You just keep harassing me and doing a bunch of ad hom. You've basically just said "I have no power in this game, I will just blindly follow the IC" that is Scummy M8. If you actually wanted to get somewhere with me, you would try and reason with me. But you haven't really reasoned with anyone all game.

I have reasoned plenty this game you conf biased arrogant shitfuck. I actively tried to work with you. you wuickvoting today means you lose any silver of respect I didnt have left. I am not going to coddle you like a fucking child. I dont need to push nm, I told pintu I thought he was xcum, I've given reasons all game, you being town is enough to make his slot scum. you havent tried to talk to me all game, you've tunneled me as xcum from early day 1 and miraculously your alive in lylo..my previous post towncased us pretty much past the point of doubt and you're still being a belligerent redacted. redacted redacted, so no, pintu can reason with you and if you stick to your flabby ass guns then we will lose and I can happily never play with you again.

You realize you can't lynch NM without me right? So it's obviously between me and you because I am not moving my vote. My guess is that you are just waiting until Pint "doesn't like me enough" to vote me. You're making zero effort to convince me that NM is Scum. I just don't understand how you can play like this knowing that at some point I have to vote NM and I am not going to.

like I said, 24h to deadline I'll do quick. not before. ill post more from computer for you pintu.

oops I lied about prodging

[Eddie Cane]

dont knkw why that quoted

[pinturicchio]

Why 24h before deadline, Eddie? I'll wait your reply, but I see no need to ge this thing going any longer

[pinturicchio]

Yeah no I reconsidered it and we should just lynch NM, he's probably the remaining scum after all the interactions I've reread. I townread both Quick and MOMO more than NM, so even if I don't care if we win or not, I don't want to go against my own reads just to prove a point; the other players who stayed to the end despite the awful environment deserve it (Oxy and Sando, for example).

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[pinturicchio]

Lol you're going to kill me because of this, but I read Fumuki's ISO right now and he was scumreading mutant and Korina like in his first 10 posts and now I can't believe that's a coincidence.

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: MOMOMEN

L-1.

@Not_Mafia do your thing

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: MOMOMEN

[Not_Mafia]

So, did we win?

[Mathdino]

Vote Count 6-1

MOMOMEN

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(3, LYNCH)

: Quick, pinturicchio, Not_Mafia

Not Voting

--

(1)

: MOMOMEN

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-24 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- None!

[Mathdino]

Day 6 Ends

MOMOMEN was lynched!

Spoiler: They were...

A

Vanilla Townie

.

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Night 6 Begins

Send in your night actions!

I will accelerate the night when all night actions are in.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-21 19:00:00).

[Mathdino]

Night 6 Ends

Quick died at night!

Spoiler: He was...

A

Vanilla Townie

!

pinturicchio also died at night!

Spoiler: He was...

A

Hider

!

Only Not_Mafia remains!

Spoiler: He was...

A

Mafia Jailkeeper

!

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The Mafia Wins!

Congratulations to

Not_Mafia

and dead teammates

havingfitz

and

mutantdevle

!