NY 215: HMS Erebus - Game Over!

[Io]

I’d prefer Mala, Ct, Lapsa
Also wouldn’t be opposed to a Hugo, popo, Dave, or Scion lynch as I don’t have any hard reads on them.
Absolutely not lynching Gamma, Tictac, akarin, saudade, nosfu, or purr though.

That being said I’ll go vote for Lapsa until I’m convinced lynching out of Mala, CT, Lapsa is a better option.

VOTE: Lapsa

[Scioness Sajj]

why did it take you 300 posts to ask though

[Scioness Sajj]

dude but tictac

[Scioness Sajj]

651 is to Aka
652 to Iso

[Scioness Sajj]

go ahead detective
tell me u also scumread nos and tictac and popo and purr and scioness

altho that last one is actually right

why didn't you vote?

[Akarin]

why did it take you 300 posts to ask though

That your answer?

[Scioness Sajj]

If I started to defend Nosf while scum reading then that’s a WK, which is one of the reasons why on my last micro game I was scum reading Umulat later on and connected him to Saudade which was wrong. Just saying. I never once ‘stopped’ nosf lynch.

I'm pretty sure that's not what white knighting is, but then again I didn't really see any comprehensive list of terms anywhere.
I'd consider white knighting more of jumping in to defend a player without any real precedent or reason. Such as jumping in to defend a small push on someone you are Null reading.
Jumping to defend a player you are scum reading is...I'm not even really sure there's a term for that because literally no one would do that as it's a fairly stupid play no matter your alignment.

And fair enough, you didn't stop a nosf lynch, but I'm really just trying to say you were trying to prevent a lynch. Or more accurate you suddenly backed off of someone you were wanting lynched for a very very weak reason.
Yeah, WK was probably not the right term, but I couldn't think of something more accurate.

whitenighting is p much defending somebody, like fighting arguments or answering question to wk'ed person before they even get a chance to post

defending a null read is just scummy,
depending on reasons though

[Scioness Sajj]

why did it take you 300 posts to ask though

That your answer?

don't play dumb it ain't cute :c

[Saudade]

anyone else thinks Scion's picture is awesome

[Saudade]

Lapsa is a good liability lynch
so is pox7
but do we waste our d1 ml on a liability lynch??
noooo

we lynch CT and get scum and win the game some days later too

[Saudade]

I’d prefer Mala, Ct, Lapsa
Also wouldn’t be opposed to a Hugo, popo, Dave, or Scion lynch as I don’t have any hard reads on them.
Absolutely not lynching Gamma, Tictac, akarin, saudade, nosfu, or purr though.

That being said I’ll go vote for Lapsa until I’m convinced lynching out of Mala, CT, Lapsa is a better option.

VOTE: Lapsa

you see you say you want mala with the same breath you want lapsa
how about you switch

[Scioness Sajj]

honestly i havent read this game at all

maybe i will put some effort in day 1 but its not likely

so either deal with it or lynch me

#nocap

will you start playing d2? because i find it unlikely since you are not even following right now

[Scioness Sajj]

Lapsa is a good liability lynch
so is pox7
but do we waste our d1 ml on a liability lynch??
noooo

we lynch CT and get scum and win the game some days later too

don't think lapsa is liability

but if we want to policy d1 or not at all

[Scioness Sajj]

ok so why does everyone think mala is scum?? about to do an iso on them now but 271 gives me town vibes

what about Mala's posts that have some game advising content?

[Purrcocet]

go ahead detective
tell me u also scumread nos and tictac and popo and purr and scioness

altho that last one is actually right

why didn't you vote?

For u?

I’d prefer Mala, Ct, Lapsa
Also wouldn’t be opposed to a Hugo, popo, Dave, or Scion lynch as I don’t have any hard reads on them.
Absolutely not lynching Gamma, Tictac, akarin, saudade, nosfu, or purr though.

That being said I’ll go vote for Lapsa until I’m convinced lynching out of Mala, CT, Lapsa is a better option.

VOTE: Lapsa

YOU ARE KILLING ME HERE HEY HI HI NO

[Scioness Sajj]

go ahead detective
tell me u also scumread nos and tictac and popo and purr and scioness

altho that last one is actually right

why didn't you vote?

For u?

yup

[Scioness Sajj]

I generally am a brickwall, but I'm trying to not be that way. I mean, dave posted how he can't read me because he can't tell whether my pushes are scummy or stupid.

People are usually as smart as they are. "Trying to be smarter" is not an endeavor I'd expect immediate results from. That town-gamma apparently succeeded is a feat that borders on the unbelievable and the observed phenomena could much easier be explained by him having informed POW.

wat?

It's unbelievable that a person aware of their weaknesses could improve on them, unless they are scum?

Like how does knowing who town is even relate to making less stupid pushes? Do we have some evidence that they're more accurate? Would you expect more accurate pushes from scum?

another example of tictac commenting for the sake of commenting. nice it was brought up

[Scioness Sajj]

ah i have missed purros question there is a section of posts i didnt read

shame on me

[Purrcocet]

go ahead detective
tell me u also scumread nos and tictac and popo and purr and scioness

altho that last one is actually right

why didn't you vote?

For u?

yup

i am having an internal sorting conflict regarding user gamma emerald

so u have approximately 12 hours and 3 seconds of open wolfing time left
thank u and have a nice day

[Scioness Sajj]

I dunno, I’m inclined to think Scioness isn’t scum atm just because of how little resistance their wagon has right now.
Like it went from no one saying anything to everyone agreeing they aren’t doing anything and a good lynch.

what wagon?

"everyone" is all of me and two people, so your defense is a little weird

Well and tictac just said they think they are scum.
And everyone else hasn’t commented.

Scioness is right in that totally okay with lynching zone for me too. Not for any real reason other than absolutely no reason to think they're town. Is it that weird that most of the game thinks meh, likely enough to be scum that I'd be okay with it?

Like if Scioness is scum, are the partners going to come out with some big defense right now? Based on what?

it's totally fine to pressure/have in lynch pool low activity players.

if i were scum it'd be most likely for my buddies to leave me alone and try to draw attention somewhere else
if i'm town scum would be most likely to wait to see people's opinions before voting

assuming they play safe

[davesaz]

By definition all reasons are bad given I'm town.

TBH I don't even know if you've given a reason. I'm going to work. You can do us all a favor by enlightening me and the thread, or you can be an ass and make me look it up when I'm not working.
Guess which one I'm betting on.

But this is the basis for a scumread on Nos?

Did I express a scumread?

I might be wrong

on Nosferatu. People who scumread me for bad reasons turned up scum in 4/4 of the most recent games I was in, on this and an alt. Gambler's fallacy applies though so Nos might just be the odd one out who is simply bad.

No, I expressed conditional doubt on a townread.
I wonder how much else you're misreading?

[Scioness Sajj]

@Scioness:

this akarin - tictac interaction is something

what is the something
i got the impression that you wanted to make it look like there was a something when really there was not a something

I want to know this too

yeah i have tried to bring attention to something but there was nothing so i just called it something and gained????

but to answer:
147 is p bad. i especially don't like the part Akarin quoted, with a read that amounts to 'it looks like he thought before voting me so he is town, because scum votes mindlessly'. Akarin asks for explanation, elaboration and elaboration again. it doesn't look like Akarin wanted to get anything out of value ut of them, as she wasn't really questioning the answers.

(it also didn't amount to anything as the convo ended with tictac's answer in 370)
so 'something' means artificial but more in a dead inside kind of way. forced engagement.

[Scioness Sajj]

will pick up 507 tomorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

Reading 468 was quite discomforting to me. First Tictac started out by saying that Gamma might be scum due to having an informed POV, but that was because Gamma was acting differently than usual and breaking their meta read. Any player has a general knowledge of their own meta and can change it, so I don't see what the problem is. Then they went on say another post looked towny, but could have been made by scum, ending that section with no conclusion. Afterwards there were a few comments on posts, but several were completely irrelevant to the game and the only two that contained actual content involved agreeing with other's points. I feel like that post has little substance despite being relatively long.

you could really benefit from shortening your posts.

but i agree, tictac has been mostly talking around, there was only that early nonsense read on lapsa and a vote on me just now.

Lolwut
Tictac has also been on me

[popopopopopopo]

honestly i havent read this game at all

maybe i will put some effort in day 1 but its not likely

so either deal with it or lynch me

#nocap

will you start playing d2? because i find it unlikely since you are not even following right now

i am playing