Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

A50 quote not meant to be there

[Gamma Emerald]

I agree they’re different. Not fundamentally, however. You’re saying this is the MOST active he’s ever been and scumreading him for it. I’m saying I remember him being similarly active in another game (btw for the record that game was Three-in-One) as town. I think that should be enough to create reasonable doubt in your lockscum read of NM.

In that game (which was three games btw...this is one) he had 8 posts at this point. 17% of the posts he currently has. He increase in posting didn't happen until near endgame.

So, that was enough for you to scream that I'm a liar and vote me?

No, I misremembered his activity that game.
And I don’t think I ever walked anything back but w/e

[Carcalilly]

skitter I was joking

Imploos Vs Bujaby looks like town v town

[Carcalilly]

why is activity a scumtell when half of the posts are shitposts anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't agree with PP I think this is actually more indicative of town!NM. Not that I'm super confident of that.

Creature is probably town. Likely skitter and spaghetti also. I am holding off on townreading A50 for now.

Sorry I didn't post earlier I forgot this game already started. I haven't memorized the name/number yet.

I don't like carcalilly's start but then again it seems very ballsy as scum. But having an issue with the implosion votes was really odd.
VOTE: carcalilly

Wishy-washy as hell, in a bad way (actively leaving himself room to flip).
Follows consensus townreads, but says he is "holding off townreading A50" as though the consensus is right about him, but he doesn't want to admit that yet.
Carcalilly's start is scummy but then again it isn't but then again it is. He's scum who wants to call someone scum without drawing that person's ire.
The NM townread also reads poorly, like he wants it to be known that he's going against someone else's opinion and is having original thoughts.

Yeah I think gamma is town. Scum maybe trying to set him up as today's lynch pool. Seems like a stupid fight to pick with PP as scum and also it doesn't feel fake to me.

This line just pings me in so many ways.
"Yeah I think gamma is town" just feels like quintessential scum phrasing.
"Scum maybe trying to set him up as today's lynch pool" is a ridiculous thing to say and as far as I can tell makes literally no sense unless both me and Penguin are scum. Scum don't pick a person on page 8 and say "you know, let's make sure *this* person is in the lynch pool" in a coordinated way, that just isn't how the game of mafia is usually played in practice, and I find it hard to believe that this is a thought that BuJaber genuinely had about the state of the game. Even if he thinks it was only one of us it's just overwrought.

I think I’m also of the mind that Bu’s defense of me probably indicates scum. It feels awfully contrived for saying “I don’t think scum does that”.
VOTE: BuJaber

[Carcalilly]

gamma probtown

I can't read spaghetti for the life of me

[Carcalilly]

okay bujy's logic is faulty but I can't see any scum motivation for what they're trying to do

[Not_Mafia]

why is activity a scumtell when half of the posts are shitposts anyway

How dare you

They’re all shitposts

[Carcalilly]

can we like just ignore NM

[Gamma Emerald]

can we like just ignore NM

No
He’s fun

[BuJaber]

It's a wifom argument of course it's contrived... if I said "I don't think scum would do that" someone will (or at least should) ask me "why not?" And I'd have to explain. I'm skipping that middle step.

[Carcalilly]

bujabby give me a self meta

[Gamma Emerald]

It's a wifom argument of course it's contrived... if I said "I don't think scum would do that" someone will (or at least should) ask me "why not?" And I'd have to explain. I'm skipping that middle step.

That’s not my problem
I feel like your way of explaining it was rather roundabout

[BuJaber]

okay bujy's logic is faulty but I can't see any scum motivation for what they're trying to do

Nooo not my logic!

Why is it faulty?

[Spooghetioso]

yes but i do not know peoples names yet so for now i use nick names or there picture as them

black pokemon has black pokemon picture they are Carcalilly and that is who i am voting it was a mistake that i said pokemon with no color the first time because i did not know there was alot of pokemon and i already said sorry for that so there is not a need to be meen about it and say it every time

there is too many pokemon!

[BuJaber]

bujabby give me a self meta

Ehhh..
I'm not great at explaining myself so I end up with a lot of wallposts.

As town:
I tend to have a long-term approach to the game where I don't mind some early mislynches if I think they'll improve read accuracy.
I can be an asshole.
I like to continuously split the playerbase into smaller scum pool(s) as my reads/associatives develop.
I place a lot of importance on early-game/RVS scumreads. That's when people have their guard down. I think about associatives a lot, maybe too much; I've been known to form them prematurely.

As scum:
I tend to experiment every game. I like to try new strategies. I tend to rely on WIFOM to break townblocs/avoid detection/decide NKs. I try to imitate my town game somewhat but seems like it comes of as fake a lot of the time. I try to deliberately forget who my scummates are for more natural interactions but that's not something you can control sadly. Don't know what else I don't think I'm comfortable yet as scum to have like an established meta. My postcount probably drops unintentionally... it's hard to find things to say when you know it's fake.

[Carcalilly]

your organization is very awkward and almost contradictory, but I feel like you're a sort of train-of-thought writer

[BuJaber]

It's a wifom argument of course it's contrived... if I said "I don't think scum would do that" someone will (or at least should) ask me "why not?" And I'd have to explain. I'm skipping that middle step.

That’s not my problem
I feel like your way of explaining it was rather roundabout

Am I right though? Or would scum!you push a similar case as you did on PP and then kinda take it back?

[BuJaber]

your organization is very awkward and almost contradictory, but I feel like you're a sort of train-of-thought writer

My turn.. why are you singling me out.. what's your experience with the rest of this playerbase?

[Carcalilly]

yes but i do not know peoples names yet so for now i use nick names or there picture as them

black pokemon has black pokemon picture they are Carcalilly and that is who i am voting it was a mistake that i said pokemon with no color the first time because i did not know there was alot of pokemon and i already said sorry for that so there is not a need to be meen about it and say it every time

there is too many pokemon!

lol I'm not a pokemon

[Carcalilly]

your organization is very awkward and almost contradictory, but I feel like you're a sort of train-of-thought writer

My turn.. why are you singling me out.. what's your experience with the rest of this playerbase?

People seemed to be scumreading you and I didn't know why. Honest to me you're one of my top town reads in this game by your reactions.
I don't have much experience except a little with Gamma and implosion. They're really hard to read but I don't think gamma is scum.

[Not_Mafia]

there is too many pokemon!

[Almost50]

okay bujy's logic is faulty but I can't see any scum motivation for what they're trying to do

So far you haven't pointed out a single "scum motivation" behind any post made by any player. Are you TRing the whole list? (Or at least everyone who did post)

[Carcalilly]

Im very picky about who I decide is scum

[Carcalilly]

but if u really wanna know it's u and penguin I'm worried about