Micro 830: DoY II: Plato's Symposium! Lyncher/Inquisitor Win

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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:29 pm

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In post 172, BrightEyedFish wrote:Generally yes, but since this game is bastard it takes a little longer for my intuition to take hold
but why

all bastard means is that there are no limits on roles and the mod can change the rules

but players *right now* have been told they have certain roles. so until the mod *does something bastard* this is just a normal closed setup game
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:34 pm

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In post 173, Krazy wrote:
In post 168, BrightEyedFish wrote:I took it off because it was a pure RVS vote. Maybe it was placed correctly out of luck, but I can always throw it back if the situation arises.
so you looked at FA_Q's game there and noticed he had good reads, but didn't comment on the lack of an unvote and the lack of caution

the lack of caution is what is what I focus on. He is an aggressive, highly reactionary player as town

and he doesn't seem to be that way here

maybe it's because he's a double voter

or maybe it's because he's scum or third party

but what do you actually think of his reads in this game, and what do you think of his tonality in this game?
If FA's claim of being Socrates is to be believed, that could put him as a Lover/tragic lover in regards to Platos Symposium.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:36 pm

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In post 174, Carmen wrote:
In post 169, Krazy wrote:
In post 164, Carmen wrote:I don't think this response ever comes from town
well you can be wrong about that too

if you think town responds with anything other than "you're wrong" to a "you're scum" accusation with 0 explanation then I don't know what you expect when you play this game.
How about a "why do you think that"? How about a "what changed your mind it seemed like you had an entirely different opinion mere minutes ago"? How about a "you've described reasons to scumread FA, why not vote him"?

All reasonable questions.
I'm not going to flip out because I'm your #3 scumread in a 7 player game. You weren't voting FA because you wanted either Carca or BEF. I didn't need to ask because the answers to those questions was already established. Why do you think I would ask you questions to answers I already have a pretty clear sense of the answer to? I feel like you're trying to create wifom out of nothing for no good reason which, sadly, is something I see way more often from town

the exception is the duck. he loves convoluted wifom as scum
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:37 pm

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In post 176, BrightEyedFish wrote:If FA's claim of being Socrates is to be believed, that could put him as a Lover/tragic lover in regards to Platos Symposium.
so you're townreading someone because you like his flavor name and are into setup spec about roles that you don't even know are in the game?

AND UH WTF IF HES A TRAGIC LOVER THEN SHOULDNT YOU WANT TO LYNCH HIM?
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:41 pm

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In post 178, Krazy wrote:
In post 176, BrightEyedFish wrote:If FA's claim of being Socrates is to be believed, that could put him as a Lover/tragic lover in regards to Platos Symposium.
so you're townreading someone because you like his flavor name and are into setup spec about roles that you don't even know are in the game?

AND UH WTF IF HES A TRAGIC LOVER THEN SHOULDNT YOU WANT TO LYNCH HIM?
I could be wrong. Just something I have sitting on the back burner. We are not in a rush right now, still plenty of time.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:44 pm

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that's a terrible mentality. we have exactly as much time as we have until we decide on a lynch. the dayphase lasts as long as we decide, the timer is only there to keep it from turning into absurdity
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:49 pm

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In post 180, Krazy wrote:that's a terrible mentality. we have exactly as much time as we have until we decide on a lynch. the dayphase lasts as long as we decide, the timer is only there to keep it from turning into absurdity
Let's see what some of the others think about FA.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:04 pm

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In post 173, Krazy wrote:
In post 168, BrightEyedFish wrote:I took it off because it was a pure RVS vote. Maybe it was placed correctly out of luck, but I can always throw it back if the situation arises.
so you looked at FA_Q's game there and noticed he had good reads, but didn't comment on the lack of an unvote and the lack of caution

the lack of caution is what is what I focus on. He is an aggressive, highly reactionary player as town

and he doesn't seem to be that way here

maybe it's because he's a double voter

or maybe it's because he's scum or third party

but what do you actually think of his reads in this game, and what do you think of his tonality in this game?
Did I put someone at L-1 on the first page in RVS?

No, no I didn't. As soon as I explained the post you immediately went into lynch mode. And assuming 3p? Based on what? It is as though you are not bothering to evaluate anything I state at all.

This is scum.

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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:06 pm

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This is such a strangely muted and reserved response for FAQ.

Are you annoyed I caught you so quickly?

but not really that annoyed because you don't care about scum games that much?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:07 pm

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That was supposed to quote 129...

Muted?

Ha, you are not even bothering anymore.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:10 pm

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I have not even yet begun to 'bother'
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:12 pm

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In post 182, FA_Q2 wrote:Did I put someone at L-1 on the first page in RVS?

No, no I didn't. As soon as I explained the post you immediately went into lynch mode. And assuming 3p? Based on what?
I'm not assuming 3p, I'm assuming not-town

and you yourself are the one who said you put Carmen at L-1

and then you said you unvoted BECAUSE Carmen was at L-1

so what are you even talking about?

I went into lynch mode because I've never seen you unvote without a new candidate to lynch and it's fucking weird to see you seeming to 'rethink' the game when usually you're like 'yargh let's lynch this person'
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:07 pm

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In post 175, Krazy wrote:
In post 172, BrightEyedFish wrote:Generally yes, but since this game is bastard it takes a little longer for my intuition to take hold
but why

all bastard means is that there are no limits on roles and the mod can change the rules

but players *right now* have been told they have certain roles. so until the mod *does something bastard* this is just a normal closed setup game
This is why I am not rushing to judgement with the little info that we have. I don't want to lock down in on my theories when we can potentially get a bastard surprise from mod.

Like I said, let's see how the next few pages go and then we will have more to work with.
I'm not disregarding your FOS on FAQ, personally I'm just not content with a vote on him (or anyone else) at this stage.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:42 am

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In post 79, Carmen wrote:
In post 34, Carcalilly wrote:wtf are you sure it's a 3 scumteam
In post 35, Carcalilly wrote:I only vaguely know fa_ scum and they haven't posted enough for me to tell

Also Carmen wagon is so random

And yeah there's no way it's a 3 scum scumteam
In post 42, Carcalilly wrote:OK the more I read it over the more it seems like Carmen was using a hyperbole and not actually serious or thinking about that number
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:44 am

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In post 90, Krazy wrote:
In post 53, Carcalilly wrote:Krazy and FA looks very town to me from recent scum meta

And yeah I don't mind massclaiming flavor
I guess the thing that most puzzles me here is by what metric FA is town here

I don't know that FA is lockscum for me but I don't understand how Carca reaches this conclusion based on meta

Carca are you making up meta or is there actually something you're thinking of here?
I can't talk about ongoing games; let's just say their attitude and consistency is a lot better here.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:46 am

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In post 110, Krazy wrote:Double voting in 7 player game = confirmed third party

amright?

Like I'm not 100% on FA_Q being scum but I do think he could be like a survivor or serial killer or something. he doesn't taste like town this game
I'm not invalidating your view, but how much experience do you have with fa q?
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:46 am

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In post 112, Krazy wrote:cause he's not paying enough attention to realize the first part was about BEF?
Dont scum generally pay more attention? :thinking:
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:14 am

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In post 154, MariaR wrote:
In post 151, Carmen wrote:Why has every single person who's popped into the thread since I've gotten here just responded to one of the recent posts and ignored everything else? Is this really some bastard 4 scum setup? Start being townier, town.
You need to relax a little not much has happened and you're trying to make a train go with no steam. Let the thread flow and it'll be fine
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:16 am

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In post 181, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 180, Krazy wrote:that's a terrible mentality. we have exactly as much time as we have until we decide on a lynch. the dayphase lasts as long as we decide, the timer is only there to keep it from turning into absurdity
Let's see what some of the others think about FA.
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If you even skimmed my ISO you should know that, clearly.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:16 am

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Carmen is trying so hard to powertown
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:30 am

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In post 35, Carcalilly wrote:I only vaguely know fa_ scum and they haven't posted enough for me to tell
In post 53, Carcalilly wrote:Krazy and FA looks very town to me from recent scum meta
In post 193, Carcalilly wrote:
If you even skimmed my ISO you should know that, clearly.
That's all you posted. Not much intel other than you made your reads based off of meta...
What are your thoughts on FA in regards to this game alone?
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:01 am

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Ewww you're asking me to put effort into a game?! :giggle:

Forward and clear opinion stating, Socrates sounds like an important role flavour, so many questions that scum wouldn't bother to ask, honestly the main thing wrong is their tone is defensive/agressive but that's not a problem to me if their motives and actions are gameforwarding.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:21 am

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James:
I really hope Krazy isn’t scum.
Massive dislike of Carmen, he seems to be hot on the pressure wagon.
Also thinking that there might be some whiplash on Fa_Q2’ part. I think both he and Krazy are overreacting a bit.
Don’t like Fish’s posting very well. He’s striking me as wishy-washy
On the subject of Fish, he asked our opinion on Fa.
Currently, this head thinks that he’s prob town mainly because I have a bit of meta on him and it seems to me as scum he plays far more aggressively.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:34 am

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Inferno:
I’m somewhat convinced that Maria is a Jester.
This is a bastard game, right?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:38 am

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JAMES:
Wait
Hold up
I missed Fa’s contradiction
Am concerned now
My reads my be bad
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