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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:36 pm

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Let’s say you’re 100% certain that xyzzy/Pine is a scumteam, and you’re also 100% sure Taly/maki are a scumteam. What information do you have D1 to help you know which scumteam belongs to which game? Even the associations information you say you’ll be looking for won’t tell you *which game* those players are scum in
Your argument feels like it comes from the partially-informed perspective of a scum who knows which game to push which lynch in. I don’t see a way that D1 discussion will reveal scumminess in a way that’s tied to one game over the other

teach me like I’m dumb: how do I know which lynch to use on the hypothetical pine/xyzzy team?
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:43 pm

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If you think pine/xyzzy are a pair but you lynch them in 1 game and they flip townie, then you seem to have found the 2 man scum team in the other game. Congratulations. That's what lynches do. Confirm information.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:00 pm

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BEHOLD IT IS I, PINE, IN MY FIRST GAME IN LIKE SIX MONTHS

So hey y'all. I'm doing a new thing this game. I'm a VT/VT. Discuss.
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:14 pm

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I'll deal with that later, but good to know.

I'll come back later and see if the other 3 appear, and hopefully before I go to sleep.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:22 pm

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Votecount 1.1


C14

Maki Harukawa
(2): xyzzy, Irrelephant11

Not Voting
(5): Pine, Taly, Elsa Jay, Persivul, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.

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B7

Elsa Jay
(1): Irrelephant11
Irrelephant11
(1): Elsa Jay
Maki Harukawa
(1): xyzzy

Not Voting
(4): Pine, Taly, Persivul, Maki Harukawa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to achieve majority.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 27, Pine wrote:BEHOLD IT IS I, PINE, IN MY FIRST GAME IN LIKE SIX MONTHS

So hey y'all. I'm doing a new thing this game. I'm a VT/VT. Discuss.
I don't think an actual VT/VT would claim this early

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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:33 pm

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(to clarify I think Pine is scum in one game and VT in one)
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:56 pm

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Oh, you.

<3 xyzzy
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:59 pm

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hey babes! been itchin for a reason to use my scythe-shotgun

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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:01 pm

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Initial thoughts. { most of this post was typed up with the GIF intro, didn't want to stall ;) }

Not too keen on doublelynching one person, especially D1. I'm not doing probability, but that's almost a guaranteed mislynch somewhere.

Plus, I doubt everyone is posting as one alignment or the same role, so each game has different dynamics and voting as one gives less context for the next game phase.

If we all voted to doublelynch one person, how would we navigate the interactions with each wagon? Anyone who believes doublelynching and doublevoting is helpful should make their case.

Otherwise, the "we don't know so just lynch for both" seems like an excuse from scumhunting and reading between dialogue and discussion.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:07 pm

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Elsa
and
Irrelephant
current interactions give me "eh" vibes.

How someone thinks they should vote here is not 100% AI.

The votes and responses like:
Irrelephant: "teach me like im dub" |||||||| "duh - 'insert subjective idea we should all know here' "
and
Elsa: "why are you throwing shade at me?" |||||||| "votes back for the same game"

feels a bit forced.

Irrelephant, you seem confident on how a scum and/or town mindset would think in this situation...
Elsa, what do you think about
xyzzy's
voting?
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:12 pm

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Considering he jumped onto you immediately, they're still in the Random voting stage of their own doing. Leave her for now.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:13 pm

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In post 27, Pine wrote:BEHOLD IT IS I, PINE, IN MY FIRST GAME IN LIKE SIX MONTHS

So hey y'all. I'm doing a new thing this game. I'm a VT/VT. Discuss.
Town pings.

How do you feel about
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p-edit

Still waiting for your thoughts on
xyzzy
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:19 pm

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In post 36, Elsa Jay wrote:Considering he jumped onto you immediately, they're still in the Random voting stage of their own doing. Leave her for now.
That is my opinion on Xyzzy. I thought that was clear?

Who did you think I mean't?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pm

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Irrelephant
, because
xyzzy
hasn't voted or mentioned me yet,
Irrelephant
mentioned me as a hypothetical scum for his point. You've only responded to one of them thus far, even though they both seem alright with double-voting.

I don't think
xyzzy's
vote in was RVS?
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pm

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also, if bolding gets too much for you guys, then ill just bold once for each person per post
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:41 pm

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In post 4, xyzzy wrote:VOTE: C14 Maki Harukawa
VOTE: B7 Maki Harukawa

please join my wagons
In post 30, xyzzy wrote:
In post 27, Pine wrote:BEHOLD IT IS I, PINE, IN MY FIRST GAME IN LIKE SIX MONTHS

So hey y'all. I'm doing a new thing this game. I'm a VT/VT. Discuss.
I don't think an actual VT/VT would claim this early

VOTE: C14 Pine
VOTE: B7 Pine
I didn't think you wanted me to relate xyzzy to you in any way, just my opinion on them. Seeing them change their vote on a whim like this means I'd rather leave them for later since I believe this is their RVS votes. It is Still page 2, after all.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:16 pm

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In post 37, Taly wrote:
In post 27, Pine wrote:BEHOLD IT IS I, PINE, IN MY FIRST GAME IN LIKE SIX MONTHS

So hey y'all. I'm doing a new thing this game. I'm a VT/VT. Discuss.
Town pings.

How do you feel about
Elsa
and
Irrelephant
?

p-edit

Still waiting for your thoughts on
xyzzy
.
Yeah, but...Townpings from me ought to be viewed with suspicion. Just sayin'.

Also, pretty sure double-lynching is not a good idea. That might sound self-serving, but I dun currr
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:34 am

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When the game gets serious I was considering using 2 dif colors one for each game I'll think about it
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:50 am

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Ngl I was really confused (and still am) on how the whole scum pt thing works on how they can talk to each other thing goes.
Like are the 2 scum for 1 game in a pt and the other 2 in one but they can also use it as a neighborhood to talk about the other game?
If so that's wacky. What if you sr your partner but you can't say anything cause you'd be outting yourself in the other game.
My head hurts just thinking about it
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:16 am

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Unfortunately I'm very busy at work today and tomorrow. I should be available Saturday.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:12 am

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Got a little break...
In post 3, Irrelephant11 wrote:
1 vote: Persivul

2 vote: Persivul


Hello again!
Still salty? :P We did end up winning you know...
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:26 am

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In post 25, Irrelephant11 wrote:Let’s say you’re 100% certain that xyzzy/Pine is a scumteam, and you’re also 100% sure Taly/maki are a scumteam.
How did you reach that conclusion?

You're probably scum reading them for pushing low hanging fruit, making opportunistic votes, etc. Those things are specific to particular games. xyzzy/pine are probably doing those things in their scum game, but not doing them in their town game.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 35, Taly wrote:Elsa and Irrelephant current interactions give me "eh" vibes.
I'd say meh vibes for Irrelephant.

For Elsa, it read townie - natural and well-reasoned. That surprised me, because last game we played, almost every post he made pinged me, and he made blatant setup errors. I was expecting more of the same here.

OTOH, he flipped town in that last game. And I should note that I replaced in like 80 pages into that one.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:38 am

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In post 27, Pine wrote: So hey y'all. I'm doing a new thing this game. I'm a VT/VT. Discuss.
The only town motivation to declare that would be to play D1 wifom bullshit like A50 does.

I like lynching A50 early. :P

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