Large Normal 216 - Endgame

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all can lynch AP when I’m dead tomorrow.

Garmr today.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have never disagreed with a stance moreso than Maxous’s town read on Garmr.

[Flavor Leaf]

The only way Garmr is town, is if Maxous now knows for a fact Garmr is town because Maxous is scum. I think Maxous is probably town.

[Garmr]

Flavour no offence but your points are shit. Jus tbe honest and say you're POEing (even through you are wrong.)

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavour no offence but your points are shit. Jus tbe honest and say you're POEing (even through you are wrong.)

And this is why it’s scum. Even if it isn’t a correct read. I didn’t have points. I was basing it strictly off of VCA.

It’s not even POE.

You are literally on multiple wagons as the only unflipped on wagons that should have scum on them.

Sure, it’s not everything, if maybe one wagon was up and suspicious you’re right, but when there’s multiple. Nah.

Also, on top of that, the reason I know you are scum, is because scum doesnt not jump on this. Even if AP is scum, that shows why scum doesn’t not jump at this opportunity. This doesn’t mean AP is scum, but it’s not a point for or against AP.

I actually put work in, and had a well thought out case when I’ve been trolling the entire game until now. Scum does not pass up that opportunity if they’re town.

WAGONOMICS!!!!

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m a presence who can push out a lynch at almost any moment in the game, scum know this. They’ve abused this this game already. I’m confirmed town so scum get to abuse it even harder. (Saudade, solid move if you’re scum, you were necessary for my gambit.)

When we are down to the wire, and if scum can get a successful mislynch today then they go to 5p lylo tomorrow which is much better for scum than 3p lylo, for anyone here to believe Garmr is town they have to believe Scum who’s been abusing my IC status since the very beginning of the game to further along wagons because of my ability to get people to follow, they’re just going to wildly stop on a player that was decently lowkey town read for no real good reason? No. Scum does not do that.

Garmr is lockscum.

[xx2008]

xx2008(3):

Nero Cain

;RCEnigma;

Nosferatu

Flubbernugget

(10):

Completely Trustworthy;Gamma Emerald;

AP;

DVa;ofrhz;Performer;profii;Carcalilly

;Garmr;

Flavor Leaf

;

Ofhrz

(4):

Flubbernugget

;Maxous;xx2008;

Sephiroth

;

NoLynch(1): ;

shattiel

Not Voting(1): Saudade;

This was the Flubber wagon. We have 8 of the 10 people on it as flipped green. Damn. For us to believe that there aren’t no scum bussing Flubber, it’s Flubber, people likely bussed, but if we are to believe that we have to believe there would be 2 scum who did back to back votes on XX and ofhrz. I don’t think that happens to protect Flubber.
There’s bussing happening on this wagon, so one of AP/Garmr should definitely be the lynch today. The fact that Nero was pushing Xx the way he was gives me a town read on XX. Doesn’t look like S/s

I'm curious, why would people bus flubber? There were many people still alive during the first day. It wouldn't be too difficult to stay innocent-looking and not bus.

[xx2008]

xx2008(1):Maxous;

Sephiroth

(1):AP;

Nosferatu

(1): RCEnigma;

AP(1):

Carcalilly

;

Completly Trustworthy

(1):

profii

;

profii

(9):

Flavor Leaf

;

Nero Cain

;

Performer;ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy

;Garmr;

Gamma Emerald

;Saudade;

Nosferatu

;

Not Voting(3):

Shattiel

;xx2008;

Sephiroth

;


Are we to believe that Nero was the only one who joined into Profii? Especially that early.on. Once again, Garmr finds his way to the spot. Interesting.

Saudade is the only other person unflipped there, which makes his not voting Day 1 separate. AP is up there pushing Sephiroth, a flipped greenie. This might matter. Right now I’m thinking 2 of the 3 of Garmr/AP/Saudade is looking like scum.

If he was pushing a townie, I think that might be considered a sign of his innocence. If he were scum, wouldn't he also be joining the wagon to make the lynch happen faster

[xx2008]

I am still surprised that scum didn't kill him or rc last night, who literally claimed their roles, so I'm not going to erase my scumread on ap just yet.

[xx2008]

xx2008(2):

Nero Cain

;Maxous;

Saudade(3):xx2008;RCEnigma;AP;

Nero Cain

(3):

Shattiel;Gamma Emerald

;Garmr;

RCEnigma(2):

Flavor Leaf

;Saudade;

Not Voting(4):

ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy;Nosferatu;Carcalilly;

So once again Garmr is the last one unflipped on a wagon.

With Nero up top on xx, I expect the other scum is Saudade or on the Saudade wagon, which again comes back to AP.

He might indeed be scum bussing his partner. Considering that the lynch failed, it wouldn't have been too risky for him to bus his partner.

[Flavor Leaf]

@xx - people bus Flubber there because it looks like he’s going down. I actually feel like one scum there is enough, so that might weaken a Garmr/AP case, but don’t want to write off AP.

The fact that AP is chosen to be the counterwagon shows that Garmr is likely scum and actually gives AP a few townie points.

But let’s see where the wagons go from here.

Still my money is on both garmr and AP atm.

[Garmr]

xx2008(2):

Nero Cain

;Maxous;

Saudade(3):xx2008;RCEnigma;AP;

Nero Cain

(3):

Shattiel;Gamma Emerald

;Garmr;

RCEnigma(2):

Flavor Leaf

;Saudade;

Not Voting(4):

ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy;Nosferatu;Carcalilly;

So once again Garmr is the last one unflipped on a wagon.

With Nero up top on xx, I expect the other scum is Saudade or on the Saudade wagon, which again comes back to AP.

He might indeed be scum bussing his partner. Considering that the lynch failed, it wouldn't have been too risky for him to bus his partner.

I been pushing nero slot all game why doesn't anyone listen to me

[Flavor Leaf]

xx2008(1):Maxous;

Sephiroth

(1):AP;

Nosferatu

(1): RCEnigma;

AP(1):

Carcalilly

;

Completly Trustworthy

(1):

profii

;

profii

(9):

Flavor Leaf

;

Nero Cain

;

Performer;ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy

;Garmr;

Gamma Emerald

;Saudade;

Nosferatu

;

Not Voting(3):

Shattiel

;xx2008;

Sephiroth

;


Are we to believe that Nero was the only one who joined into Profii? Especially that early.on. Once again, Garmr finds his way to the spot. Interesting.

Saudade is the only other person unflipped there, which makes his not voting Day 1 separate. AP is up there pushing Sephiroth, a flipped greenie. This might matter. Right now I’m thinking 2 of the 3 of Garmr/AP/Saudade is looking like scum.

0 chance I am able to successfully push through my bud Profii without at least one more scum being on this wagon.

Like, Nero joined on early. There’s one more in here. At least.

Garmr today, AP or Saudade tomorrow.

[Saudade]

God wagonomics is such an awful, lazy analysis tool

[Saudade]

Im going to smash AP flavor not gonna lie
I dont townread garmr either but the ap guy pings me in the worst places

[Maxous]

I'll take a reconsideration of Garmr tomorrow if i must but i'm sticking with AP.
I want him gone, i've wanted him gone for days.

I let a strong townread Shattiel get lynched yesterday and i don't want to do that again.

[AP]

the ap guy pings me in the worst places

LIAR! I'm straight as an arrow.

[Saudade]

See hes trying so hard to be likeable

[Saudade]

And that picture is pissing me ofc

[Flavor Leaf]

See, the Garmr push even outs ScumSaudade.

[Saudade]

aha.....................

[Saudade]

Im going to smash AP flavor not gonna lie
I dont townread garmr either but the ap guy pings me in the worst places

that was queue for you to convince me otherwise not deflect by saying that I'm scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Im going to smash AP flavor not gonna lie
I dont townread garmr either but the ap guy pings me in the worst places

that was queue for you to convince me otherwise not deflect by saying that I'm scum

I actually still gut read you as town, tbh. But for clarity’s sake, I was speaking the scum term.

I’ve already explained my Garmr scum reasonings. There’s literally plenty of reasons why he’s scum posted in the past couple of pages.

I haven’t seen a single reason explaining why he is town.

I’m through trying to convince people Garmr is scum. If people think i’m wrong, convince me I’m wrong.

I am not wrong, though. And I feel if people looked into it trying to clear Garmr, they’d see there are no reasons that he should actually be cleared right now.

The fact that i’m Pushing this this hard and scum haven’t gone with it shows that Garmr is scum. That’s the basic reasoning. There are plenty of layers of reasoning why Garmr is scum. Sure, individually these reasons don’t make him scum, but add these layers together and it’s a perfect recipe for a Scummy Parfait

[Flavor Leaf]

I'll take a reconsideration of Garmr tomorrow if i must but i'm sticking with AP.
I want him gone, i've wanted him gone for days.

I let a strong townread Shattiel get lynched yesterday and i don't want to do that again.

And this is absolutely why I’m against this.

Nope. I’m the confirmed town. And I’ve started to actually play this game.

AP wagon can go through ANY TIME. There’s loads of reasons coming from everywhere.

I will not be around to push Garmr later.

I will fight this hard. AP can go at a later date. That’s totally cool. Garmr will NOT be taken at a later date, and that’s why he’s today.

If I’m going down, I’m taking Garmr with me.

Scum only don’t kill me because they think I’ll push a townie. I’ve been baiting this literally all game.

Garmr is scum. AP ‘might’ be scum.

Garmr is today.

[Flavor Leaf]

God wagonomics is such an awful, lazy analysis tool

Not when I do it. People just suck at it and don’t take into account active playing against it, and just go surface level.

This just makes you come across like you know it wrecks you and a scum partner.

The fact you haven’t sheeped here, which is the strongest case I’ve had all game is extremely suspicious.

Nobody has even attempted to explain any reasoning why i could be wrong. Nobody has explained any reasoning why they are more likely correct than I am.

I’m willing to take these things into account.

Y’all just being lazy and taking the easy route, which guarantees a scum win 85% of the time. I made that up, but it’s a high amount.

Do the work, show the work. This is late game, people. There’s actual stuff to analyze and reanalyze.