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Actually discuss things, don’t just go “this guy’s town. This guy’s scum because...I THINK IT. Idk why.”
Figure out WHY you think that, and explain it. This helps EVERYONE. Well, except for scum.
If you think I’m incorrect, explain why, not just say “this is bad”. Because any actual analysis and thoughts is good for town at this point. There is literally zero reason to just state things are bad at this point in the game. Even just simply bringing it up is good for town.
Anyone who does other wise is Anti-town. Now put it together people, let’s do the work, and let’s win this damn game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I’m probably not going to budge on ScumGarmr, because it’s clear as day that he’s scum, however if you think I’m incorrect, I’d like people to explain why they think that. I’ll likely have a response to it, and we can create some discussion about that.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Like play the game. Why sign up for a mafia game if you don’t plan on playing it? This is the best and most complex part of the game. We actually get to analyze rather than just hope for the best and socialize like in early game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Honestly, I go after Maxous before I go after AP or Saudade this day.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Based on the VCA I think we can rule out a team of AP/XX even without Nero's/creatures push against xx. AP and Garmr only vote together on flubber but numberswise there is always 1 between them if not both. Iirc AP moved on to the wagon without really having any opinion on the slot. I don't remember Garmr's interactions with flubber early but it is something I'll look into. Don't know how necessary that is even with a mislynch here (though I doubt garmr flips green) AP becomes confscum. If 0 scum voted on flubber I would be floored.
On a red flip I would Lynch saudade first, green Lynch AP obviously.
AP very well could nk in the night if he is scum but keep in mind a no kill doesn't give town an extra Lynch if we Lynch wrong today.
Haven't agreed with FL a ton this game but I think he's right on Garmr.
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I haven’t given any thought process up until this game for you to agree with. I flat out told people I was channeling my inner NM this game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Lol.In post 1756, Garmr wrote:Ok I been thinking. That we should leave ap and performer slot off the lynch table day since they will sort themselves out. Going to be honest I got kinda bored of this game.
Yeah, pretty sure it’s just Garmr and AP scum team.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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In post 1758, Garmr wrote:I probably have some bias here but I still think maxous is town. His early reads were similar to mine day 1 and I have a soft spot for that but his latter reads for day 1 branched away from mine and were quite different so I don't feel like he was suckering me in.
The pace is slow this game and there's a couple of people who feel silent. Going to be a hypocrite here and say look at the number of unvotes.
VOTE: ProfiiIn post 1841, Garmr wrote:
Nero was creature slot right enough saidIn post 1838, RCEnigma wrote:Maybe FL wasn't making the play I thought he made yesterday :p
VOTE: Nero
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Yeah, so Garmr brought up pushing the slot all game, but they didn’t throw down a vote until here. They went from Profii, to nero, then back to Profii real fast, and then a nero thing was brought up, and he literally goes “Choo choo”
Implying that it’s just him jumping on the train.
Also, ISO’s suggest AP/Garmr are just S/S, and they’re bussing right now.
Even if that’s not true, I actually think Maxous is town because that’s a weird play for scum to use in the situation. Mixed in with RCE’s actions, that likely means Maxous is town.
Xx has been a scape goat for scum for days, and I kind of just don’t think he makes a lot of the posts he does as scum. They aren’t newScum posts, they’re like newtown playing posts that come off looking bad.
Leaves Garmr, AP, Saudade, RCEnigma.
And I think that is the likelihood of scumminess.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Not regarding your thought processess, just the blind pushes (Maxous, Profii) specifically.In post 2705, Flavor Leaf wrote:I haven’t given any thought process up until this game for you to agree with. I flat out told people I was channeling my inner NM this game.-
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Yeah, town gambit. I really just was testing to see how many people would blindly follow me.In post 2708, RCEnigma wrote:
Not regarding your thought processess, just the blind pushes (Maxous, Profii) specifically.In post 2705, Flavor Leaf wrote:I haven’t given any thought process up until this game for you to agree with. I flat out told people I was channeling my inner NM this game.
I didn’t put any effort into this game until this day phase. I was trying to play up a VI persona and have people forget that I’m actually a late game town powerhouse, which was easy considering a failed mason gambit because i got killed previous to the start of this game, but even in that game I hard tunneled onto a scum Day 1.
Played pretty well, I think. I achieved my goal of making it near late game as confirmed town.
Do you know how long it’s been since I’ve made it without getting night killed? A LONG TIME in a non newbie game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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In post 296, Flavor Leaf wrote:To everyone else, yeah, I don’t have anything else to say. I’m gonna revel in my conf town for a bit longer, and then imma come in so hard.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I was actually more channeling my Boonskiies personality this game rather than NM.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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@Saudade - Would you like to do the honors of hammering Garmr?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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I feel like a broken record about AP though to be honest.
Just not scum-hunting for large periods, reads he did make come across as weak and disingenuous, crap jump on Flubber and AtE'd three times in this game when he was under a lot of pressure.
and Garmr didn't exactly help himself the last couple of pages.
I hate writing town-cases and it's not like i can slam-dunk a reason why Garmr is definitely town.
It's not as if we're in lylo though, and i could be wrong."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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so fuck it.
Unless somebody has an objection we'll hammer and find out.
If i die, you know my recommendations, regardless of what Garmr flips.
Ap scum.
xx2008 was heavily bussed by his scumteam.
Particularly these quotes that came straight out of the gate on Day 3. Which looked like planning the bussing during the night to me.In post 2214, Nero Cain wrote:I forgot alot of the finer details but I know was scum reading XX and RCE so I'm going to start there.
vote: XXIn post 2228, Nero Cain wrote:May I interest you in a slightly used scum read on XX?"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Saudade could technically be scum but i think he played a very risky and cheeky game if he is.
And upon my re-read he was more helpful than i remember him being at the time.
He didn't actually entirely coast off sheeping FL.
I and do think his strategy of constantly giving FL a double-vote does make pro-town sense."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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the most obvious reason to townread RCE is his investigative roles which are noticeably absent from everyone else.
They are limited which makes sense, i think his entire role makes sense with what we see, particularly how it complimented Performer's limited JoaT role and how both of those roles meshed well with Dva's rolestopper.
I felt like the way Nero pushed wasn't scum-scum anyway PARTICULARLY Nero accusing him of a scum slip
Besides in general don't see any scummy flags from him to be honest. If he is scum, he's played a very solid game imoIn post 1867, Nero Cain wrote:
He's also gonna be protected so thanks for letting us know you guys have a strongman.In post 1865, RCEnigma wrote:I guess win town points with FL, who likely doesn't make it to tomorrow anyways
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Maxous Mafia Scum
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In post 133, Creature wrote:
The same way it's possible to read someone off RVS posts.In post 118, Garmr wrote:
Lol tell me what makes a memes scummy while another null and make sure to point out my intentions. All this With out hitting a negative IQ score please.In post 106, Creature wrote:"hurr durr my posts aren't AI because they're jokes"In post 356, Creature wrote:Garmr is town
hehe I remember redding him a lot
but redding someone a lot sometimes doesn't mean scum
He probably should have more greens rnIn post 411, Creature wrote:
I find it hard Garmr actually believes he's pressuring meIn post 381, Shattiel wrote:
garmr is still doing nothing in the pretense of "pressuring" creature because his vote is on him.In post 283, Garmr wrote:
I agree with this but in reverse I'm more confident in Nos than seph. Want to join the creature wagon then apply more pressure?In post 271, Maxous wrote:Seph - Nos slapfight seems like both town.
I'd be more confident about Sephiroth.
Creature is actually getting scummy in my book. He's keeps flailing when people ask him simple questions to explain what he wrote."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Maxous Mafia Scum
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> Attackes Garmr over RVS bullshit
> buddies up to him with a town-read, when Garmr pushes back
> goes back to throwing bullshit when it doesn't work.
don't see that as buddies"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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In general, i would be surprised if Nero din't bus at least one of his buddies."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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Nah, you said Garmr hasn’t done anything scummy with a VCA like that.
That makes it even scummier.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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And I disagree. The Creature/Garmr/Nero thing was S/S. They never even hard went after each other. Look at the Nero votes he did. Very rarely, and moved off as soon as he could to help the next wagons.
There dialogue is incredibly S/S with the flips we have.
I agree on RCE for the most part.
You’re either scum or have a blind spot for ScumGarmr because there’s no reason those posts should have you thinking he’s townie.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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To be fair, Maxous, I have been stating Garmr/AP likeliest scum pairingCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Flavor Leaf Survivor
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I never disagreed with your AP read, I just wanted Garmr today. Because we lynch AP today, if I die, Garmr doesn’t necessarily get lynched.
If we lynch Garmr today, I die, well, AP is still likely to get flipped.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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