[OLD] Open Setup Discussion and Nominations

[xyzzy]

Nominate

2 Vigs
3 Mafia who do not know each other and do not have a kill

Daystart

Mafia have to kill all Town, Town have to kill all Mafia

[size=0]even better with a survivor[/size]

[shaft.ed]

Or alternatively two mafia with independent kills that do not know eachother vs 3 townies

[ShadowLurker]

Yeah I just realized my game worked better as a Closed Setup (which it was when I ran it in scumchat)

[dahill1]

Yeah I just realized my game worked better as a Closed Setup (which it was when I ran it in scumchat)

massclaim pretty much broke it though, once the two vigs realized what was going on

[ShadowLurker]

Yeah I just realized my game worked better as a Closed Setup (which it was when I ran it in scumchat)

massclaim pretty much broke it though, once the two vigs realized what was going on

uh no, if gorrad didnt think he had a kill you two wouldve vigged each other and lost

[armlx]

He has a point.

[Thesp]

not mafia

1 sk
5 townies

This made me laugh a lot.

Friends, Friends and Enemies
2xMasons A
2xMasons B
4xMafia Goons
4/6xTownies

I like this, but I think the numbers are wrong. Heck, I'd like to see a Large game with 2 mason groups, a mafia group, a werewolf group, and townies. What would the ideal numbers on that be?

X Mafia
X Mason-Cops(Collectively have one investigation, guranteed innocence)
Y Townies

Mafia win if all cops are dead.

I was thinking a 2-2-5 distribution for a small game, maybe 3-3-7 for a medium and 4-4-9 for large.

I also like this - the 3-3-7 group looks good to me, what do you all think?

Can someone refresh my mind as to what F11 is?

Needs more nominated setups, new or old.

[shaft.ed]

Nominate Vengeful

for the mod's in the queue

Nominate Texas Justice

for the trigger happy

[Adel]

Friends, Friends and Enemies
2xMasons A
2xMasons B
4xMafia Goons
4/6xTownies

I like this, but I think the numbers are wrong. Heck, I'd like to see a Large game with 2 mason groups, a mafia group, a werewolf group, and townies. What would the ideal numbers on that be?

I'll give it a shot:

3 Mafia Goons
3 Werewolves
2 Masons A
2 Masons B
4 Townies

Daystart

[Adel]

F11

F11 is the latest experimental Newbie Setup, trying to address flaws in previous setups. It is also the first official 9-player newbie setup, excepting Newbie Game 69.

It consists of four variations, chosen at random (the name comes from the binary expression of these four options, similar to C9):

1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies.
2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.
2 Mafia Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies.
The first game to attempt this setup is Newbie Game 576.

X Mafia
X Mason-Cops(Collectively have one investigation, guranteed innocence)
Y Townies

Mafia win if all cops are dead.

I was thinking a 2-2-5 distribution for a small game, maybe 3-3-7 for a medium and 4-4-9 for large.

I also like this - the 3-3-7 group looks good to me, what do you all think?

3-3-5 seems mroe balanced to me.
The mason/cops are all confirmed innocent, as is each townie they investigate.

[Adel]

yay, Polygamist Mafia is in the queue now!

[yellowbounder]

Bodyguard Mafia

1 SK (immune to NK)
2 Mafia
3 Bodyguards
2 Cops (1 Sane, 1 Other (Naive, Paranoid, Insane); sanity is not known)
6 Townies

[hasdgfas]

yay, Polygamist Mafia is in the queue now!

Looking at it, it's one of the worst setups I've ever seen, unless I'm missing a key point of it.

EDIT: Actually, I missed that the scum don't have a NK.

[Macavenger]

Actually if I'm reading it right, it still seems pretty bad, since the town has better than 50/50 odds of winning with purely random lynching. Not too sure how scum are supposed to win. :X Dunno why I didn't notice that when it was posted here.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Polygamist Mafia 2.0

3 Mafia Goons, 8 Vanilla Townies

Every player may choose to fall in love with another player during the night, making the player and his or her target effectively lovers. All players can have multiple lovers. Day start.

It's probably broken, too.

[Scigatt]

Here's a setup I nominated earlier, but want to try again...

Symmetry 7

2 Mafia Roleblockers(one group kill & RB per night)
1 cop/nurse(1 action per night max)
1 doc/deputy(1 action per night max)
3 townies

This setup happens to fix the breakable scenario in Pie E7, namely when the mafia RB is lynched with the town power roles still alive. Thus, this setup is quite a bit less swingy than Pie E7.

P.S.:You could add 2 townies to make it S9

[Adel]

Polygamist Mafia 2.0

3 Mafia Goons, 8 Vanilla Townies

Every player may choose to fall in love with another player during the night, making the player and his or her target effectively lovers. All players can have multiple lovers. Day start.

It's probably broken, too.

that could lead to some really bizarre play, like a townie playing to get lynched because she is convinced that she correctly picked a goon to be lovers with.

[Adel]

Polygamist Mafia 2.0

4 Mafia Goons
13 Vanilla Townies

Day start.

Every player

must

choose to fall in love with another player during the night, making the player and his or her target effectively lovers until the end of the following day. Not submitting a choice for lover results in a random lover selection. Multiple players may be killed in a lover chain reaction. Initial lover choice is made during pre-game.

note: I increased the number of players so that it wouldn't be over after one lynch and one nk. The pre-game lover choice will make day 1 claims interesting. No-one will choose to lynch a really popular lover

[Adel]

I can't think of a name for this setup that is both amusing and inoffensive Mafia

2 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Godfather/Treacherous Lover
2 Lover Cops
1 Lover Cop in love with Godfather
n Townies

Night Start

[Mr. Flay]

Polygamist Mafia 2.0

Can we avoid making 2.0 until 1.0 runs and can be critiqued effectively?

[Adel]

'k -- I was just going off of Cogito Ergo Scum's suggestion.

[Mr. Flay]

Well, I'm fine with subbing in 2.0 for 1.0, it just seems silly to try to run both at once...

[Adel]

I don't see much danger of that. I've been involved in crafting over a hundred setup ideas in the thread, and 2 have been selected so far.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

The problem I have with 2.0 is that people could 'chain'. Ofcourse, nightstart prevents this, but I think everyone would be everyone's lover in the end, and everyone would lose.

But then again, that should teach the players that polygamy is bad.

[Max]

and it would teach people to come up with good plans, like get townies to plan who they marry in the day.