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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:20 am

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Hmmm, thanks NSG

by the way Elbirn I might have been a bit rude but I'm town really
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:33 am

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Ok so Elbirn is all paranoid in the hood about me and I want to give town points to that?

He seems to have searched in the topic for something as well and looks more likely a town process than scum trying to make a ruckus about me for no reason?

my weaskest town lean but still...

I've come to the PoE of the team being [Kokichi, MariaR, NK15] and I'm not sure what do with that if not be weirded out.
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:48 am

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[Chibi, NSG, Nico] - Town read
[Elbirn, Mutant] - Town lean
[Gamma, Fire] - Nulltown?
[MariaR, NK15] - Null
[Kokichi] - Scum lean

I feel I've nothing to do here but shitpost right now...
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:35 am

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In post 2995, NicoRobin wrote:Reading is tech.
How about you
read this:
In post 2968, Not Known 15 wrote:Good. Why is Gamma Emerald down there for you? Tell us the reasons...
and answer it.
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:01 pm

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In post 3002, Nibbui wrote:[Chibi, NSG, Nico] - Town read
[Elbirn, Mutant] - Town lean
[Gamma, Fire] - Nulltown?
[MariaR, NK15] - Null
[Kokichi] - Scum lean

I feel I've nothing to do here but shitpost right now...
Do you have any other scumreads aside from the claimed IC?
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:04 pm

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Not really

Nowadays I'm picky about saying someone is scum

I can make for example a town case for MariaR and NK15 while at the same time I can make a scum case for them but...

Kokichi in my opinion is substantially more likely scum here. I'll be surprised if he is town because I got a glimpse of I think his first game in the site and he seemed way more engaged in sorting everyone than here.

Here he seems to only pretend to be game solvey.
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:05 pm

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It's not a meta read by the way, it's just that even the little bit of meta that I have on him points to him being scum.
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:35 pm

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mr Elbirn.
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:00 pm

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In post 3007, Firebringer wrote:mr Elbirn.
Fire I'm at work for one thing and for another I've had difficulty finding the energy to refute your bullshit over the holiday fun times and also when I'm thinking you're possibly scum so like why engage?

Like I'm trying to be current with the game and with what time I have and you're all "I'm mr messeeks look at me!" And I'm like "free shrugs today friendo"

I'll get back to you later but hey if you want a quick tldr I think you claiming to have meta on me is either 1. Bs, or 2. If true then you should have me as obvtown, and I think you having me as your supposedly top scumread but your reasoning is just "meta".. uh hoo boy you need to try harder babe. The rest of your post I dont remember so
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:09 pm

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In post 2890, Nibbui wrote:I've been thinking and came to the conclusion that NSG isn't as obvtown as I superficially thought.

I don't think that a supposed scum!NSG acts much differently in a general sense, however, I think that her mysterious clearing on Nico might be very town indicative honestly.

I can't see very clearly why scum!NSG would do that at all with the info I've right now.

Not impossible at all but I don't find it very likely, and I don't think I can give myself the luxury to focus on her with so many shaky slots.
In post 2891, Nibbui wrote:I'm not 100% sure, there is some doubts here, but I guess Chibi can be strong town read as well. She deserves to win here if scum compared to what would be supposedly townies.

[NSG, Chibi, Nico] - town

[Gamma, Fire] - town lean (I might be wrong on one of them, but never on both. I like to think of them as a pack)

[MariaR, Elbirn, Mutant, NK15] - null, nullscum or nulltown. Confusing feelings.

[Kokichi] - scum read

I know that what I said here is mostly scattered on my ISO but I'm starting to think more deeply about the game and giving this readlist is a good way to start.
Just a note that I dont understand where post 2890 comes from, nor the paranoia re:me and NSG. 2890 is just scumposting and I'm glad mutant noticed. Theres nothing said about a supposedly scum NSG, it's just...a townread disguised so it can be disavowed later, or something, idk what it is, ITS WEIRD OKAY
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:12 pm

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i think we're getting off focus here. i think my current main lynch order is:

Maria > Kokichi (assuming no IC reveal) > Firebringer = Gamma

obviously it's optimistic to assume that it does, but if that doesn't end the game, depending on the number of scum flips within that pool i would look again at NK15 and Elbirn.
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:12 pm

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at the very least, i think the main thing is that i think maria should be today's lynch and i'd like to hear if people disagree
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:16 pm

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In post 3008, Elbirn wrote:
In post 3007, Firebringer wrote:mr Elbirn.
Fire I'm at work for one thing and for another I've had difficulty finding the energy to refute your bullshit over the holiday fun times and also when I'm thinking you're possibly scum so like why engage?

Like I'm trying to be current with the game and with what time I have and you're all "I'm mr messeeks look at me!" And I'm like "free shrugs today friendo"

I'll get back to you later but hey if you want a quick tldr I think you claiming to have meta on me is either 1. Bs, or 2. If true then you should have me as obvtown, and I think you having me as your supposedly top scumread but your reasoning is just "meta".. uh hoo boy you need to try harder babe. The rest of your post I dont remember so
i wouldn't call ur posts bs. just like i expect not for u to call my posts bs.
how about we both take each other in good faith and discuss the posts?

I am not saying I have some strong meta case on you, I am saying that I don't think you are playing how you would be playing here if you weren't scum and thats because the posts you have given haven't been game solvey, does this argument contain meta? Yes. But it isn't the crux of my arguments and I gave more detail in those posts about what i was thinking.

You can argue my points without just writing it out of as bs.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:18 pm

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In post 3008, Elbirn wrote:I'm thinking you're possibly scum so like why engage?
like why do you think i am scum for one thing.
The whole "possibly" indicates its not strong so why not we talk and we work on that read so its strong scum or strong town.

like the argument that you shouldn't talk to me because I could be scum seems really ridiculous when the whole purpose of us communicating is for you to get a good read on me like I need a read on you.

and i understand this is holidays but you continually post and reply to other things so when i see that i think you can respond to my posts and we can discuss, and now you just give me excuses. Like should i view this as dodging? Cause I really don't think you as scum would be dodging me here and i think its just laziness.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:20 pm

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In post 3010, northsidegal wrote:i think we're getting off focus here. i think my current main lynch order is:

Maria > Kokichi (assuming no IC reveal) > Firebringer = Gamma

obviously it's optimistic to assume that it does, but if that doesn't end the game, depending on the number of scum flips within that pool i would look again at NK15 and Elbirn.
you have been ignoring me for many many posts.
you can't put me in a lynch order if you aren't going to talk to me.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:25 pm

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sorry, did i miss something you asked me?
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:26 pm

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Fire might be frustrated town, dont tell him I said so
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:26 pm

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i hate all of u
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 3016, Elbirn wrote:Fire might be frustrated town, dont tell him I said so
like why do you think this now?
I have been frustrated with this game at multiple points.
at this point i am annoyed but not that much.

i am actually more annoyed by this post. is this a joke? I am going to assume so cause I think your just trying to avoid talking to me.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:34 pm

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In post 3009, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2890, Nibbui wrote:I've been thinking and came to the conclusion that NSG isn't as obvtown as I superficially thought.

I don't think that a supposed scum!NSG acts much differently in a general sense, however, I think that her mysterious clearing on Nico might be very town indicative honestly.

I can't see very clearly why scum!NSG would do that at all with the info I've right now.

Not impossible at all but I don't find it very likely, and I don't think I can give myself the luxury to focus on her with so many shaky slots.
In post 2891, Nibbui wrote:I'm not 100% sure, there is some doubts here, but I guess Chibi can be strong town read as well. She deserves to win here if scum compared to what would be supposedly townies.

[NSG, Chibi, Nico] - town

[Gamma, Fire] - town lean (I might be wrong on one of them, but never on both. I like to think of them as a pack)

[MariaR, Elbirn, Mutant, NK15] - null, nullscum or nulltown. Confusing feelings.

[Kokichi] - scum read

I know that what I said here is mostly scattered on my ISO but I'm starting to think more deeply about the game and giving this readlist is a good way to start.
Just a note that I dont understand where post 2890 comes from, nor the paranoia re:me and NSG. 2890 is just scumposting and I'm glad mutant noticed. Theres nothing said about a supposedly scum NSG, it's just...a townread disguised so it can be disavowed later, or something, idk what it is, ITS WEIRD OKAY
what do you mean a "supposedly" scum!NSG?

I would expect scum!NSG do most of the reads and posts she has done with the exception of Nico, and
maybe
NK15. Also she showing up in thread to do a lynch order is maybe town indicative? I don't know if she would try to push it right now instead of waiting after the flips each day.

That's why I wasn't sure on town reading her. This felt a bit fabricated and I'm not so sure I should still town lean but /shrug.
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:35 pm

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Well you dont seem to be interested in actually pushing me as a scumread/wagon, but you haven't backed off like I would assume scum would in such a scenario. So you're being belligerent but with no apparent motive and I'm over here like "what are you doing"

I'm not happy with what youre saying but I dont know what motivates scum-fire to say it, so regardless of alignment you've confused me congrats

Pedit: nibbui dont interrupt its rude

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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:39 pm

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but you just said you thought i was possible scum and now because I am not backing off when i have been asking for discussion for weeks ur now saying "well scum there is no scum motive for doing what your doing".

I don't understand YOUR MINDSET here if ur read just changed like this for this reasoning.

And using your logic here should I think ur scum here? you are backing of this just as you said scum would. I don't get it.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:43 pm

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Like from my perspective here:

1) Try to talk to you because I felt your posts was scummy (can go back to the post where i say what I was thinking if you want to discuss that)
2) You say its bs and that I could be scum and don't want to talk about it.
3) I say lets talk about them because I am not giving you bs and want us to take each other seriously here.
4) You say I am townreading me with no reason but frustration.
5) I am confused and ask for more clarification
6) You give me what seems like a vapid reason to not scumread me but also not townread me but say I am town?

Like I feel like your just trying to disengage from all of this. And when under scrutiny you don't have any real thoughts because it doesn't go with whats going on and doesn't seem realistic.

Where am I wrong with this? Please let me know.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:45 pm

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Elbirn I don't really believe ur reads have substance to them and all kind of seem to be made in the moment. I can't follow them from one point to the other at all.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:47 pm

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Dude idk what you want, if you think I'm scum then please vote me

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