Unstable Mafia - Game Over

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 2.11

Lynching

With 11 players, it takes 6 to lynch.

Creature

(5): DoubtingThomas, TemporalLich, Almost50, rosterfoster, Vedith

teacher

(1): pignash

rosterfoster

(1): teacher

Nobody

(4): Creature, 0verki11, Dr Worm, Rabbi Vole

Deadline

: (expired on 2019-03-27 00:40:00)

[teacher]

@almost - you want me to put my check now? While the PoE is small on claims doesn’t that just let scum know whether they need to kill or block me?

[teacher]

I’m fairly sure from the lack of a hammer as game has swung to pretty town places that creature is scum. But I think there is more to get out of this day from the lurking community.

[Creature]

I’m fairly sure from the lack of a hammer as game has swung to pretty town places that creature is scum.

Most likely scum would rather wait a town to hammer.

[Creature]

No one is supposed to hammer anyway until DT and Over both claim and I get my say.

[teacher]

Sounds good. Also I checked everything and I did not mention you at all.

[Almost50]

@almost - you want me to put my check now? While the PoE is small on claims doesn’t that just let scum know whether they need to kill or block me?

Well, if you'd rather keep it to yourself that's alright too.

[Almost50]

After having thought about it more in-depth I think Rabbi here makes sense to be scum. If he's making pignash's posts then the pignash claim is worthless. It could be that pignash a "kidnapped townie" who gets released once the puppeteer is dead. (Yes, it's crazy, but the whole game is).

What bugs me is Rabbi said pignasj has "no role PM". If pignash has no role PM then how the hell did he get notified of anything at all, including his own alignment? I'm referring to this:

Well in the spirit of finishing massclaim
I am a town puppeteer and pignash is my puppet. I control his account.

He doesn't have a role pm

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UNVOTE:

I say we lynch one of them (Rabbi/pignash). I just haven't decided which yet. Lynching pignash tests the claim he has no PM, but then it proves nothing if it's the case. Lynching Rabbi is like a double lynch if they're both town, unless pignash gets released and gets his own role/vote.

Franklu, I am confused and have no idea where to go from here. Like, teacher not announcing his target doesn't let me know whose result it is if he is today's NK and I still get a result.

[teacher]

True. But I’m planning on hinting it or already have. I also had your hesitance and thiughts when I went back to see the D1 wagon in light of all the claims. I want this to last til tomorrow RL when I can do some analysis.

[TemporalLich]

Neither me nor Volxen mentioned Creature.

I'm okay with a Creature lynch if it seems the game won't advance or if 0verki11 and DoubtingThomas make claims that don't look scummy. However 0verki11 is most likely scum so I might vote 0verki11 instead, but I prefer 0verki11 being the D3 lynch.

Massclaim Ledger:

Dr Worm - Coach (in PoE)
teacher - Rookie Cop / Amnesiac Cop
Vedith - Mirror (possible PoE)
rosterfoster - Interrogator
Almost50 - Cop (1168 seems important)
TemporalLich - Medium
Creature - Schizophrenic (in PoE)
Rabbi Vole - Puppeteer
pignash - Puppet
0verki11 -

Unclaimed

(in PoE)
DoubtingThomas -

Unclaimed

(in PoE)

Pedit: Yeah that is weird how pignash supported Rabbi's "effectively Masons" claim if pignash doesn't even know what team he's playing for. I could PoE, but as you said a lynch would be useless. I think getting teacher's target would nice especially if it's one of the PoEs.

@Almost50: What's your reasoning for unvoting Creature beyond "I want to lynch Rabbi Vole or pignash". Personally I'd lynch Vole if I were forced to pick from that pair, but mostly because the information gained is useful instead of useless.

[Almost50]

I unvoted because at least 2 players want Overkill & DT claims before the day ends. I also am rethinking the while situation and may change my mind about Creature.

People I'm definitely not lynching today: teacher/vedith/roster/TL. Add me and we're 1 short of locking the game.. maybe.

[teacher]

I agree on Roster not being the lynch and targeting Vedith. But there’s nothing to say interrogator is town aligned. And thank you for the unvote. And for the summary.

[teacher]

Volxen has said nothing so far.

Oddly this makes me believe your claim solidly.

How is Vedith in your PoE?

How is Vole not? With the swing and bastardization, I could see 9-4 being a legit thing with a scum puppeteer.

[TemporalLich]

Volxen has said nothing so far.

Oddly this makes me believe your claim solidly.

How is Vedith in your PoE?

How is Vole not? With the swing and bastardization, I could see 9-4 being a legit thing with a scum puppeteer.

Yeah I neglected to not PoE Vedith since my impetus to re-PoE Vedith was 1136.

The preview edit (not post edit this time, also not sure if that counts as a preview edit) on my post 1259 states that I would PoE pignash, but am not willing to lynch pignash. Then I'd said I'd lynch Vole over pignash. I am willing to PoE Vole if no further developments come or if there's another case for scummy Vole and pignash.

[0verki11]

Doctor gg ez im dead tommorow

[0verki11]

N1 Creature btw, as he was my strongest townread

[Almost50]

So, if you are not dead and teacher is dead we lynch you? Except -of course- if scum have a roleblocker then they block you and shoot him anyway. But then I get a result anyway, so maybe they're better off killing me over you two. Nice paradox for scum to solve.

[0verki11]

So, if you are not dead and teacher is dead we lynch you? Except -of course- if scum have a roleblocker then they block you and shoot him anyway. But then I get a result anyway, so maybe they're better off killing me over you two. Nice paradox for scum to solve.

im not telling you my protecting nor are we making plans for me to WIFOM of. This is the greatest WIFOM.

[pignash]

Just double checked and there's no role pm on this account, no.
Unless there's some next level bastard bullshit going on I think this account is town aligned by omission.

I'll ask podoboq

[teacher]

0verki11 want to react About y other claim or provide reads or say who you protected yesterday and why?

[rosterfoster]

I feel that’s a town claim by Overkill.

Teacher, I understand that this is not necessarily a town role - DT said he would think it’s roughly 50/50 in our PT last night so I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of trust in me.

I can see the case for Rabii scum. I suspect the puppet dies if Rabii dies, although saying that the puppet has no role pm makes me think that lunching the puppet would not give us any more information, so we must lynch Rabii instead if we’re testing that.

[Almost50]

Just double checked and there's no role pm on this account, no.
Unless there's some next level bastard bullshit going on I think this account is town aligned by omission.

I'll ask podoboq

Wait.. so pignash is actually

the same person

as Rabbi Vole?? These are 2 alts of the same person?? This is confusing as hell to me.

[rosterfoster]

Yeah. I know. It actually makes sense - pignash suddenly posting out of the blue after 3 years offsite with a prein for unstable.

[rosterfoster]

It makes sense for me that scum might have this double-vote power, since RCE was a secret doublevoter.

[rosterfoster]

[unovote][/unvote]