Mini 2065 - Access Point [Endgame]

insomnia · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:23 am

In post 1232, DoubtingThomas wrote:why are we AP'ing anka, tbh

This is exactly why

insomnia · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:25 am

I don’t like that there are too many people sending Rui in AP but not Anka

Why do I feel like Rui’s push is scum driven and townies are bandwagoning

insomnia · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:27 am

I have a quest for people that want to send Rui on AP:

1) State your reasons for voting Rui
2) Compare the two slots and explain how LabRat’s rep out isn’t townier than anything Rui has done so far
3) Doesn’t it make you feel strange that Rui is being universally town read?

Alisae · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:30 am

I’m okay with APing both, its just that I want to know why Ank wants RuiRui to be AP’d over herself and if its something I can work with and agree with it, I’ll go with it.

insomnia · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:31 am

She’s following the lurking vig’s reads.

RCEnigma · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:38 am

In post 1251, insomnia wrote:I don’t like that there are too many people sending Rui in AP but not Anka

Why do I feel like Rui’s push is scum driven and townies are bandwagoning

Just call me scum then.

Alisae · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:39 am

RCE why do you want to AP Rui > Ank today

RCEnigma · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:45 am

1 part RC's read. 1 part how easily slots townread labrats replace out but not RC's and then just ditched all of his reads on rep out. The pool of players supporting Anka but not Rui, that's nothing against Anka but obviously I'm going to ask myself why X group is willing to push Anka through if I think scum may lurk in it. If we AP Anka over Rui I feel the night kill makes the game slightly harder which doesn't apply the other way around (Rui first).

Alisae · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:48 am

Can you explain to me how the game becomes slightly harder depending on our AP choice here?

Ankamius · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:52 am

I don't support APing myself without the support of both vigs, and TGP doesn't want me APed

Alisae · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:52 am

VOTE: RuiRui
fair enough

RCEnigma · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:53 am

For example we push Anka through today, Rui dies tonight since I will literally die to make Rui the AP nom. Knowing I'm town scum can't really let that happen. So with Rui dead it's probably a pool of myself/Alisae/insomnia and slots are already shading 2 of the 3. So I'd imagine there will be some split there.

Or alternative Rui goes through Anka is the nightkill and I probably advocate Alisae with a vig on me. Though I'm more hesitant on that because it gives room for the RC!scum theory to return.

Ankamius · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:53 am

In post 1257, RCEnigma wrote:1 part RC's read. 1 part how easily slots townread labrats replace out but not RC's and then just ditched all of his reads on rep out. The pool of players supporting Anka but not Rui, that's nothing against Anka but obviously I'm going to ask myself why X group is willing to push Anka through if I think scum may lurk in it.
If we AP Anka over Rui I feel the night kill makes the game slightly harder which doesn't apply the other way around (Rui first).

What do you mean by this?

Ankamius · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:54 am

Ah I see

Tbh just AP two of rui/ali/me and the game is a town win I'm pretty sure

RCEnigma · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:55 am

I think pushing you through today makes scum shoot Rui every time. Whereas they make a suboptimal kill the other way around. And the town path is still in tact even in the event you are the nightkill with Rui being AP'd instead.

RCEnigma · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:56 am

I think that's accurate, just fmpov one pov has less wifom than the other is my point I guess.

RCEnigma · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:56 am

Path, not pov.

insomnia · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:57 am

In post 1264, RCEnigma wrote:I think pushing you through today makes scum shoot Rui every time. Whereas they make a suboptimal kill the other way around. And the town path is still in tact even in the event you are the nightkill with Rui being AP'd instead.

Is killing Ankamius suboptimal? How so?

RCEnigma · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:58 am

It gives less credibility to RC being scum.

RCEnigma · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:59 am

Although I haven't given deep thought to RC being scum so I can't say with certainty how associations play out.

Ankamius · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:01 am

RC isn't scum here

Ankamius · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:02 am

Tbh this dichotomy depends on really what you would rather have

1. Easier lylo in access point in case our collective townreads are off? I'm the safer AP

2. Easier chance to make the correct decision d3 to avoid a potential instant scum loss or lylo? Send Rui

RCEnigma · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:03 am

The team is never nsg/RC/Rui so Rui flipping town doesn't clear RC and RC isn't with Rui if nsg is town since he dies night 2 or is a likely vig target day 3. So he doesn't get to manipulate the final AP nom and no offense to ruis game but nsg wins that lylo.

FakeGod · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:04 am

VoteCount 2.3

RuiRui [5] - RCEnigma, BRVR, rosterfoster, Ankamius, Alisae
Ankamius [3] - RuiRui, Locke113, insomnia

Not Voting [3]

- DoubtingThomas, GuiltyLion, TheGoldenParadox

With 11 alive it takes 6 votes to be chosen.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-04-02 16:00:00)

Ankamius · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:05 am

UNVOTE: RuiRui

Holy fuck that wagon is gross