Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[Chara]

skitter did town things and i decided i could rest instead.

tell me more

i did. i gave you four more words!

[Irrelephant11]

Ugh I have fuscezu and tris as townleans for some reason.

Maybe chara too.

I like irrel and rcenigma for town

What's the difference between fuscezu and me, and irrel and rcenigma here?

awkward charisma, interesting contributions. in four words.

Oh I read these as connected

[Irrelephant11]

skitter did town things and i decided i could rest instead.

tell me more

i did. i gave you four more words!

do me a favor and quote me some skitter posts with interesting contributions?

[Chara]

125[post] and [post]244.
i'm still keeping an eye on skitter, but i don't think unnecessary paranoia is helpful after our last game.

[Irrelephant11]

Why not I'm all about that unnecessary paranoia it's like my default
VOTE: shiidaji

[Chara]

oof. those links.
what prompted the vote change?

and: paranoia makes my heart sad. and also has really never lead me anywhere especially fruitful.

[Irrelephant11]

skitter you should come vote shiidaji

pedit: I reminded myself of why I scumread shiidaji and it's stronger than my (just now remembering that it's finals week) gamestate read

[Persivul]

skitter you should come vote shiidaji

I feel left out.

[Irrelephant11]

oh are you not voting shii? yes come join
have we had any vc's idk where people are voting

[Persivul]

Do you town read skitter or just not scum read her?

[Irrelephant11]

Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this is

not

a confirmation that both are Town.

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Shiidaji (3):

Chara, Irrelephant11, tris

skitter30 (2):

Persivul, insomnia

Irrelephant11 (2):

Shiidaji, RCEnigma

Fuscezu (1):

Smile

Miss Kobayashi Maru (1):

ClearlyClarity

ceejayvinoya (1):

skitter30

ClearlyClarity (1):

Miss Kobayashi Maru

Not Voting (2):

Fuscezu, ceejayvinoya

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

Oh apparently I've just been glossing over the orange posts because they're orange
I redacted a thought here - not because it relates to ongoing games but because I think it'd be more helpful to say after a flip than before any flips
someone remidn me later

pedit: I have no read on skitter yet

[insomnia]

So Persivul are you going to hop off already or what?

[insomnia]

I thought you were going on with a push.

[insomnia]

Skitter is low-key pocketing me again, I don't know how to feel about it given our past game.

[insomnia]

Since my vote on Persivul isn't going anywhere and people don't hop on him for some reason, I'll do this

VOTE: Smile

5 headed hydra and you can't come up with a read and you are so neutral when it comes to giving reads. it feels off. you're like "insomnia is scum because of this, but i can see him being town" , "not feeling cj's posts", plenty of Iioa

[insomnia]

who's up, play with me oof

[insomnia]

Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this is

not

a confirmation that both are Town.

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Shiidaji (3):

Chara, Irrelephant11, tris

skitter30 (2):

Persivul, insomnia

Irrelephant11 (2):

Shiidaji, RCEnigma

Fuscezu (1):

Smile

Miss Kobayashi Maru (1):

ClearlyClarity

ceejayvinoya (1):

skitter30

ClearlyClarity (1):

Miss Kobayashi Maru

Not Voting (2):

Fuscezu, ceejayvinoya

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

Oh apparently I've just been glossing over the orange posts because they're orange
I redacted a thought here - not because it relates to ongoing games but because I think it'd be more helpful to say after a flip than before any flips
someone remidn me later

pedit: I have no read on skitter yet

so you got no reads off your plan with the fast wagon? thought you were pretty good and you thought you were confident in reading town skitter?

[Persivul]

So Persivul are you going to hop off already or what?

I thought you were going on with a push.

Why are you so different here from last time I played with town!you and it was a total shitshow?

[insomnia]

I told you I have 5 games going on my dude, that plus when skitter covers me like that I don't feel like doing much. I have to get out of that habit lmao

[insomnia]

So Persivul are you going to hop off already or what?

I thought you were going on with a push.

Why are you so different here from last time I played with town!you and it was a total shitshow?

you and urap2 only reading me based on meta, smh

[Chara]

mod: v/la this weekend!

i should still be around, however.

[Irrelephant11]

Since my vote on Persivul isn't going anywhere and people don't hop on him for some reason, I'll do this

VOTE: Smile

5 headed hydra and you can't come up with a read and you are so neutral when it comes to giving reads. it feels off. you're like "insomnia is scum because of this, but i can see him being town" , "not feeling cj's posts", plenty of Iioa

I don't see how those sorts of comments are iioa. Can you explain that to me?
They're not very strong comments, I agree, but what about a five-headed hydra being a bit neutral feels off to you? I have a hard time seeing how the slot would be moving strongly in any direction as either alignment
That said my townread there was always weak, I don't really mind the vote

Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this is

not

a confirmation that both are Town.

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Shiidaji (3):

Chara, Irrelephant11, tris

skitter30 (2):

Persivul, insomnia

Irrelephant11 (2):

Shiidaji, RCEnigma

Fuscezu (1):

Smile

Miss Kobayashi Maru (1):

ClearlyClarity

ceejayvinoya (1):

skitter30

ClearlyClarity (1):

Miss Kobayashi Maru

Not Voting (2):

Fuscezu, ceejayvinoya

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

Oh apparently I've just been glossing over the orange posts because they're orange
I redacted a thought here - not because it relates to ongoing games but because I think it'd be more helpful to say after a flip than before any flips
someone remidn me later

pedit: I have no read on skitter yet

so you got no reads off your plan with the fast wagon? thought you were pretty good and you thought you were confident in reading town skitter?

The vote thing was originally meant to be a post-scumflip way of reading skitter (how many scum were on her wagon, did any scum choose me to vote instead of her, etc)
And she hasn't done much I consider strongly indicative of her being town, nor really of being obvscum. So I don't have a read yet
I'm not sure why I should have a strong read this early - do you feel like skitter's alignment is obvious here? You've got posts on this same page saying you don't know how to read her so far

[Tet]

That makes two of us. However this is a different setting, I'm one of the strongest players she had to face off against and I'd argue most if not all present are better players than me. I don't expect her to panic but I also don't expect her to be so dismissive of early scumreads on her slot. It's not a strong read but my initial impression.

I'm always going to default to town side on slots that try to transition out of rvs unless it's generating social reads, which I didn't get from this game. Plus Shiidaji proposing the persivul/irrel team read townie to me because it's a nontown statement if that makes sense.

What I mean is it's considered antitown to make assumptions around preflip associations and I think Shiidaji is cognizant of that. So at best it's an attention grabbing statement that scum generally avoid. Also it encourages town to consider new perspectives which opens the door for scumhunting even if it isn't directly done by him. I dont know if that was really the intention but that doesn't change my mind all too much.

So if I understand correctly, your townread on shiidaji is because they did something anti-town and you think highly enough of shiidaji to expect that only town!shii would be so blatantly anti-town + by being bad it lets other people scumhunt better (which I don't agree with btw)

My response is: anti-town things are done by scum sometimes. Duh?

So I'm not really seeing the towncase

Last part is a stretch. It's timing, it's really a strange moment for scum to get theory heavy unsolicited or unprompted. He hasn't really had much input since (or at all?) So I don't see him as proactive scum right now, which is really the only thing that would have made me backtrack that read.

[RCEnigma]

Last part is a stretch. It's timing, it's really a strange moment for scum to get theory heavy unsolicited or unprompted. He hasn't really had much input since (or at all?) So I don't see him as proactive scum right now, which is really the only thing that would have made me backtrack that read.

Oh bother.

[insomnia]

Since my vote on Persivul isn't going anywhere and people don't hop on him for some reason, I'll do this

VOTE: Smile

5 headed hydra and you can't come up with a read and you are so neutral when it comes to giving reads. it feels off. you're like "insomnia is scum because of this, but i can see him being town" , "not feeling cj's posts", plenty of Iioa

I don't see how those sorts of comments are iioa. Can you explain that to me?
They're not very strong comments, I agree, but what about a five-headed hydra being a bit neutral feels off to you? I have a hard time seeing how the slot would be moving strongly in any direction as either alignment
That said my townread there was always weak, I don't really mind the vote

Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this is

not

a confirmation that both are Town.

VOTE COUNT

7 of 13 votes are required to lynch.

Shiidaji (3):

Chara, Irrelephant11, tris

skitter30 (2):

Persivul, insomnia

Irrelephant11 (2):

Shiidaji, RCEnigma

Fuscezu (1):

Smile

Miss Kobayashi Maru (1):

ClearlyClarity

ceejayvinoya (1):

skitter30

ClearlyClarity (1):

Miss Kobayashi Maru

Not Voting (2):

Fuscezu, ceejayvinoya

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-22 12:00:00)

Oh apparently I've just been glossing over the orange posts because they're orange
I redacted a thought here - not because it relates to ongoing games but because I think it'd be more helpful to say after a flip than before any flips
someone remidn me later

pedit: I have no read on skitter yet

so you got no reads off your plan with the fast wagon? thought you were pretty good and you thought you were confident in reading town skitter?

The vote thing was originally meant to be a post-scumflip way of reading skitter (how many scum were on her wagon, did any scum choose me to vote instead of her, etc)
And she hasn't done much I consider strongly indicative of her being town, nor really of being obvscum. So I don't have a read yet
I'm not sure why I should have a strong read this early -

do you feel like skitter's alignment is obvious here?

You've got posts on this same page saying you don't know how to read her so far

Skitter is an auto town read for me until I get fucked by the flip. To respond to the bolded, when skitter confronted you, you said you're pretty good at town reading her, and having her at a null is weird to me, with the plan and everything.

As for the hydra, I'll point the posts that I don't like and maybe they can defended themselves / explain their reads because they're scattered as hell