Mini Normal 608 - Game Over

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Vote: Llama Fluff

because it anagrams into "full maffa" with an extra l, which I assume was meant to be an "i" and therefore, he is claiming mafia.

random anagram votes FTW!

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bird2234 has the same avatar. Copy cat.

Ha! Ha! funny! it looks like a cat! Ha!

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I know I do. It's called scumhunting...

lol j/k.

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I usually unvote after the first few votecounts (or in this case, the first few), but I'm pretty comfortable with my vote.

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My vote is on LlamaFluff because I do feel like he overreacted a bit. And I don't like how Slaine Hayes and Corinthian thought the people on the "llamawagon" are scummy, when there is only two people.

FoS: Slaine Hayes and Corinthian

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'Scummy' behaviour is often to try and make the metaphorical mountain out of a molehill, to exxagerate the importance of an insignificant thing in order to convince the town to lynch an innocent.

Yep, that seems to fit your vote on LlamaFluff pretty good.

QFT. I think the people jumping on the Llamawagon look a lot scummier than Llama himself at this point.

I wholeheartedly agree with Corinthian, this situation has been taken completely out of context.

Then what about this?

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OK...

unvote, UnFoS: Corinthian

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Vote: Slaine Hayes and a big FoS: Gimbo

I already didn't like the way Slaine was acting, and Gimbo has definitely done enough to warrant a vote as well, but seeing as I just merely skimmed through the thread and he hasn't claimed yet, I'm just FoSing here.

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I've already mentioned my reasoning. It didn't originally convince me though.

Now it has.

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You didn't really take my case away, you sort of just swatted it away.

Also, I would hammer Gimbo if he claims. There is plenty of reasoning that way.

My reason for a vote: Corinthian said that he found the llamawagon (of two people) scummy. Slaine Hayes said he agreed with Corinthian. I later pointed out that the wagon was two people, and fosed Corinth and Slaine. Slaine said that instead he meant it had been "taken out of context" which was clearly not the point Corinth was trying to create. And you are still denying it.

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Slaine seemed to have do the same to me, when I was wondering why he agreed/disagreed with Corinthian.

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To me, my vote makes good enough sense.

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@Tommy: Phoebus's case is also helpful. I probably would have voted anyway, but Phoebus's acknowledgement shows that other people are seeing this too.

Also, I'm curious about the question by Phoebus posed above. I would like an answer as well.

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@ Llama: no, after playing with Gimbo in another game I understand his behavior, so I don't think there is reason to vote him now.

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Should I hammer? His claim seems funky.

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I'm going to reread #44 kwikly and then most likely hammer.

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OK...I definitely see the connections...I think it would be more likely for him to be Mafia then vig...

That was definitely a quick readthrough but it gave me all the information I need...

Vote: #44

My first real hammer.

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I'm going to reread Dattebayo.

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My isolated read through of Dattebayo.

Day 1
(9) - Completely random post.
(12) - Agrees with FlyingFoxBat about the need for the mod to change the game stage before we can get the game started, suggested by Gimbo.
(25) - Random votes Tommy. Asks him why he said this was his first non-newbie one.
(36) - Tells Cavebear with a toothache that he is probably wrong about Slaine Hayes being scum because he bandwagoned. Asks LlamaFluff if he is attacking #44.
(47) - Asks Gojira why LlamaFluff was scummy because of his overexcitedness.
(49) - Tells Gojira that his vote was unjustified, but LlamaFluff’s was just trying to get reactions.
(50) - EBWOP post.
(132) - V/LA post.
(136) - Votes Gimbo on Gojira’s points. Still states his suspicions on Gojira.
(155) - States that he

can

agree with Phoebus’s case on Slaine Hayes. I find the use of the word “can” there strange. Also states that Cavebear with a toothache that his push for claim was scummy. FoSes Slaine Hayes and Cavebear with a toothache.
(167) - Answers some of Tommy’s questions with good answers, but still a little fickle under the Slaine Hayes and Gimbo scenario.
(169) - States that English isn’t his first language (maybe that explains the use of the word can in post 155.)
(172) - Says that he missed post 60, and that the point of Phoebus’s he was defending, which he thought was justified, wasn’t.
(184) - Votes Slaine Hayes and says his reasoning for Voting Gimbo because of his hunch was a lie.
(186) - Contradicts some of what Phoebus has said and presents a case on Slaine Hayes and his lies.
(188) - Tells Gimbo that he has already brought reasoning for a Slaine Hayes case.
(192) - Says that Slaine Hayes is lying, by the evidence.
(211) - Good defenses against Gimbo, Slaine Hayes, and Tommy

Day 2
(244) - Votes #44 because he sees the connection between them

Day 3
(269) - Claims Doctor.
(271) -States that he protected LlamaFluff Night 1, and Phoebus Night 2.

Conclusion: I’m not entirely sure on this one. My feel is that someone who was on the #44 lynch is scum, as they were trying to get everybody to believe that #44 was actually scum and not them, because they had no way of knowing that he was serial killer. But, out of those 5, LlamaFluff was killed, Phoebus and Gimbo look pro-town, and I know I’m pro-town. So it seems like Dattebayo is definitely the correct choice.

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Well, It's totally possible for non voters to be scum, I just see that would probably be the normal case. If I had to pick one non voter, it would be Corinthian, because Slaine was ever so eager to agree with him/her.

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Gojira, I reckon Gimbo meant Corinthian. They both start with Cs.

But Corinthian makes a good point.

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at this time...i'm going to vote: skitzer for his "his claim sounds iffy' bit - what was that about? please explain... 44 had claimed Sk...

Any anti-town claim is usually really WIFOMy...ths one wasn't, but still, It kind of stirred my thoughts a little bit.

How close are we to LyLo ??

I'm looking at it this way: So far we have lynched a Mafia Godfather and a Serial Killer. An average Mini game, with a serial killer, has approximately 2-3 Mafia.

So, looking at the worst case scenario, which is 3 scum and an SK, still living are:

2 Scum
5 Town

So If we lynch incorrectly and there is a night kill:

2 Scum
3 Town

which is Lylo. But then we'll lynch obvscum Corinthian, and if suffer another night kill:

1 Scum
2 Town

But if we look at 2 scum and an SK, things are way different, living are:

1 Scum
6 Town

Lynching incorrectly and a nightkill would put us at:
1 Scum
4 Town

And then another lynch and Nightkill would put us at LyLo.

On the Corinthian claim: If there are multiple scum, (no offense to Corinthian here) but I don't think they would have the time to think it out and weight their chances. Of course, If Corinthian is the only scum left, It wouldn't make sense because after we lynch Dattebayo today and he turns out to be a doc or town of some sort (which wouldn't make sense because he lied about his claim if he's not doc), Corinthian is our prime target tomorrow.

So, I'm going to say that Dattebayo is probably scum. If not, Corinthian is either lying or random, because I know I'm innocent.

So with that, screwdriver, saw, wrench....HAMMER!

Vote: Dattebayo

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Gimbo is right...

Vote: Gojira

BUT...If Gojira isn't right, we look at Gimbo.

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Gimbo, you could be mason, but it's almost as likely that you may be lying in the hopes that FFB, who could be the real mason, isn't posting.

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Notice how I am voting Gojira, Gimbo...

What proof do you have that you are the mason? Is it clearly stated in the thread? Because I don't see any.

Finally...Corinthian has two, possibly three, correct investigations. You also seem like you would kill someone else so that Corinthian would be under suspicion...

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But it could also be:

Corinth - cop
skitzer - innocent
FFB - mason (who would be innocnet)
Gimbo - scum
Gojira - ???

Just listing my possibilities...

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First: are you Phoebus's mason partner?

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No, this just confirms that Gimbo is, in fact, the mason.

Yes, my vote stays on Gojira.

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no, that would be bastard modding..from the looks of this game so far, I don't think so.

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Yay, I won as Townie!

@Corinthian: No, but I'm nominating this one for a Scummy.

Good job to all players and XreyoX for a great setup.