Mini Theme 2077 - Restless Spirits Mafia [ENDED]

[Flavor Leaf]

I am ready to end the day.

[Nero Cain]

how dare you not let mod get the page top

[Flavor Leaf]

how dare you not let mod get the page top

I'm always the mod.

[Nero Cain]

To be fair, it won't be hard for you to win this game considering Roster's in this game.

that sade @ roster

[Nero Cain]

sade lol

shade

[rosterfoster]

I’m just unconventional.

Like Boontice was bad but I’ve had many better games than that.

[rosterfoster]

But I don’t know if RAS really believed that.

[Nero Cain]

that's his first impression of you right? First impressions are the most important. I'm sure there have been plenty of players that had a negative opinion of me if I played poorly in our first game and positive if I played well. Also, the butthurt on this site is real.

the truth is prob somewhere in between.

[rosterfoster]

We're the only sane ones left Nero.

[Flavor Leaf]

You got pocketed by Awestfie who got lucky that the role they claimed and made up just happened to be your role.

[Nero Cain]

Luv is past his prod timmer

[Elbirn]

FL are you Boonskies? Is that a thing?

[Flavor Leaf]

FL are you Boonskies? Is that a thing?

Boonskiies is Flavor Leaf.

[Ankamius]

**Clemency replaces RAS effective immediately.**

[Nero Cain]

I thought we were all Boonskiies

[Elbirn]

You know I read enough of your signature to see "boon" at the beginning but not enough of your signature to see "yes I'm boonskiies" at the end. Well done, me.

Pedit: Don't interrupt

[Nero Cain]

**Clemency replaces RAS effective immediately.**

this guy is prob getting lynched regardless of alignment

[Flavor Leaf]

Ah, man. I love Clemency.

[Montosh]

See one of her comments that pinged me a bit on reflection was 77. She says that if we got to a massclaim situation and she claimed a supposedly anti-town role she never used that she'd be immediately lynched. But like I don't get this. It's exactly the kind of role you might expect to find in a game where the central mechanic is talking to dead players. You'd expect a role to break that up.

This is what I meant when I said that I got the impression that she really believed what she said in 78. I don't think the whole "

I'd just get lynched

" thing is logical either, but it's not particularly scummy either. .

I'm not sure about this. This feeling of "I'd be immediately lynched in a massclaim situation" is immediately apparent to me (and it seems to you as well) as not being logical. She

should

be able to see that too it seems to me. Given that and the fact that there's some prior meta which would be consistent with this kind of play as scum makes me increasingly nervous.

See one of her comments that pinged me a bit on reflection was 77. She says that if we got to a massclaim situation and she claimed a supposedly anti-town role she never used that she'd be immediately lynched. But like I don't get this. It's exactly the kind of role you might expect to find in a game where the central mechanic is talking to dead players. You'd expect a role to break that up. Why would we lynch there in a massclaim necessarily? Why, as town, would you immediately give scum that extra info and make it even easier to sort other slots?

I don't feel like the logic holds up.

Do you agree that its utility is antitown though? I understand why someone would treat it like a miller role.

But it's different. This role doesn't passively mess with nice actions like a miller would. She has total control over it. So I don't see it as being inherently anti-town necessarily. Maybe difficult to use effectively. But ultimately she just didn't need to claim it and just not use the role if she felt that way.

[ConManMick]

According to VC we have until the 24th of July to vote so let's not be too hasty

[Montosh]

Just some quick thoughts regarding this whole Nancy thing.

Nancy's frustration level here don't make any sense for someone who was excited to be in this game; 106/107. Tonally, it's not even remotely natural, and the way she handled Roster's vote just feels forced to me. I'm not valuing the fact that she's replacing out into any of this since it's her initial reaction to the vote that bothers me the most.

I still believe that Creature is scum, but I'm more content placing my vote here because of the above.

VOTE: RX.

Why not? I mean I don't entirely get what's going on but clearly there's some issue between nancy and roster that must involve an ongoing game or something. I don't feel like the frustration (or the replace out) is particularly AI either way?

I dislike Creature's opening posts and find them forced. It's based on fairly flimsy reasoning considering what he's contributed so far, and something I'd rather not go into.

The above still stands true and is the reason why I haven't gone too much into it. It's not "playing those cards close to my chest", it's just something I don't think I have to go into yet until he contributes more. I can go into it into more detail though.

I think 100 is a poor attempt to throw away what was a legit discussion with the whole Mastina thing. There are a lot of reasons why it was still discussed, and I find it odd why someone would question why it's still being discussed. It basically got the game going, and is still the main topic of discussion.

104 is flat-out false considering how many people brought up in this game that Town!Mastina doesn't do this. It feels like such a lazy read when there were a lot of discussions before this. I don't believe that the only read he got from the previous pages is Town!Mastina.

I don't like Creature's posting but I feel like it's kinda his style. I'm not sure how much you can get out of this. I'd definitely like to see more contribution from him though. But given that we're having a very slow and replacement-heavy game so far there's probably more lurky slots that need to be evaluated as well (LUV for one). Why do you feel Creature is particularly scummy compared to some other similar slots?

VOTE: RAS

Yeah there is no way Flavour slot is scum.

What convinced you of this enough to switch your vote?

[Montosh]

No it’s more the fact that I can’t see her faking that level of emotion (and it really would be faked if she was scum as it seems like she thinks I’m a terrible town player or smth).

Also Flavour can never roll scum in games I’m in.

Frustration is not a town-tell. Scum can easily be emotionally invested too. For the life of me I don't get why that would make the slot seem at all less scummy.

Nancy was being absolutely ridiculous and I refuse to attribute either townliness or scumliness to her behavior

Thanks for reading

This basically

[Montosh]

Didn't notice RAS replaced out when I asked all that fine...

[Flavor Leaf]

No it’s more the fact that I can’t see her faking that level of emotion (and it really would be faked if she was scum as it seems like she thinks I’m a terrible town player or smth).

Also Flavour can never roll scum in games I’m in.

Frustration is not a town-tell. Scum can easily be emotionally invested too. For the life of me I don't get why that would make the slot seem at all less scummy.

Nancy was being absolutely ridiculous and I refuse to attribute either townliness or scumliness to her behavior

Thanks for reading

This basically

to be fair, why would she be frustrated as scum ever when she's hydra'd with me? Sure, this is still borderline AI, but my conf bias knows differently, and I'm narcissistic.

[Montosh]

I've got no meta on being hydra with you as scum. In any case, I think it's perfectly possible for some people to become frustrated no matter their alignment. I think it's pretty NAI.