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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 1636, chennisden wrote:Do you know why percentages are used? It's not because they plugged it into a magic formula or even that these are in any way "legit" -- THE REASON HE USES PERCENTAGES IS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A RELATIVE SENSE OF HIS CONFIDENCE IN HIS READS. I am pretty sure (69%) that Omachao has no idea why percentages are used and why they can be used.
you're missing the point, i know that its him saying his confidence in the slot, but your confidence has to be based on SOMETHING and he has NOTHING
aka theyre made up and random.
that's why im saying
how would your scumread stay at a 60% if theyve been posting towny recently + you were only scumreading them for ostensibly one post that you couldnt even elaborate on.
like lets arbitrarily but specifically say 50% is where nmsa thinks a read is "probable"
that would mean that he thinks mastina is more than probably scum, but what's his reasoning? literally one post that makes her scummy, and like 20 posts since then that are towny. You can't even say that claim was so egregious that it makes up for it all because he CAN'T EVEN ELABORATE ON IT which you concede.
so no im not just accusing him of not empirically using data to make percentages, im saying that his confidence level makes no sense.
He did contribute to mastina's lynch (though that wasn't towny).
he's "contributing" in the sense that his vote is there. are you gonna tell me nmsa contributed anything substantive to the case against mastina? no you're not.
While the way it is worded is scummy there is town mindset that you are refusing to acknowledge
what's the town mindset? that he's confused and desperate?
If this was true it would tell you something about FL's alignment. There is no reason to ignore this.
i disagree. not only do i disagree, but i also think that going into that would not have anything to do with the point of even talking about the ppl on the wagon.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:32 pm

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i just don't really have anything to say (as in a like rebuttal or whatever) about the other points.
like my reaction to telling everyone on the mastina wagon to get off but then getting convinced by nero in the end and just voting is convenient?
probably?
i didn't really think mastina was town to begin with but i saw a stupid wagon so i reacted, nero made a point i thought was good and nmsa wagon was just not happening so i hammered
is that a little sus, yeah i guess?
i think it would be more sus if she actually flipped scum tho
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:37 pm

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I think Omochao is town. Like if I pretend my funky, Titus, Omoch and FL town reads are right it means scum are in

1. chennisden
2. Creature*
3. Elbirn
4. Almost50
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I'll feel bad if El is a town doc but
In post 1383, Elbirn wrote:Everyones turning on me and its disgusting
just felt scummy to me but I guess we don't lynch that today and lets scum shoot that and pl it b4 lylo if still alive.

Does a50 pull a jazz mafia and lulz claim scum again? Maybe
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:40 pm

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chenn town b/c mod wifom? I don't care what roster says, loud goon seems plenty possible.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:41 pm

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I agree that it is a message to the rest of the town but it is usually directed at lynchee
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:43 pm

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In post 1653, Nero Cain wrote:chenn town b/c mod wifom? I don't care what roster says,
loud goon seems plenty possible.
I agree and don't want to let NMSA slip because of a good claim

There is no reason the claim doesn't come from scum especially since it got everyone off of him
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:43 pm

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creature isn't town but he could be a green pm.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:46 pm

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so scum is

1. chennisden
4. Almost50
9. NotMySpamAccount*


assuming that El gets shot.


thats just kinda how I feel, but I could be wrong so vote whomever you guys want.
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:47 pm

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in all honesty

i should approach omachao's slot in better faith
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:48 pm

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In post 1657, Nero Cain wrote:so scum is

1. chennisden
4. Almost50
9. NotMySpamAccount*


assuming that El gets shot.


thats just kinda how I feel, but I could be wrong so vote whomever you guys want.
and if El is not shot?
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:48 pm

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how so?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:49 pm

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In post 1652, Nero Cain wrote:I guess we don't lynch that today and lets scum shoot that and pl it b4 lylo if still alive.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:51 pm

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@Omochao - For the record I don't think NMSA is town or has contributed to town

Something about your approach to it feels off
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:57 pm

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Your transition from NMSA to Titus feels like wagoning to wagon

It feels like you're trying to lynch Titus just so you don't get lynched
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:57 pm

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And that's not necessarily scummy as I know the feeling all too well

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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:11 pm

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actually no

VOTE: titus
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:12 pm

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when i was in the position omachao is in now the counterwagon ended up being on scum
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:16 pm

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In post 1663, chennisden wrote:It feels like you're trying to lynch Titus just so you don't get lynched
ehhh
i wasnt really thinking of it like that but youre right
i didnt REALLY think titus was that scummy d1 but she's just done literally nothing and every time i play with scum!titus it feels like she just does nothing
BUT this game i see that she has some meatworld things she's dealing with so idk
didn't really think it would jump to L-1 that quick but better her than me is definitely some underlying logic here
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:38 pm

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I've been in this position recently and sympathize

And I don't want it to end the same way it did last time
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:28 pm

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Like you’re all scumreading Titus for lurking when there’s clearly IRL reasons.

Chenn is very townie btw.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:29 pm

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Only way anyone comes up with that NMSA claim is of it’s a mod given fakeclaim
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:30 am

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Did somebody say L-1?

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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:35 am

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Flavour I love ya, but you need lynched tomorrow if this is a townflip.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:37 am

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Didn’t read a single thing, tbh.

I’m town, though, that’ll be a mislynch

Y’all put someone to L-1 with a Flavor not reading
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:38 am

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At this point, I’m essentially waiting until late game to play this game like a replace in

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