2078: Any Non-Dead Person Can Post In This Mafia Game [end]

[Firebringer]

how many pushups did u do on friday btw? I did 100

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not talking to you in this game until you call me town

[Firebringer]

ur going to give me shitpost withdrawal. this is manipulative!!!!!!????!?!!?!!

[Firebringer]

u know waht i think? i bet u in pushups and u don't want to admit it.

HAHAHA FIRE WINS!!!!

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean that was tongue in cheek but i'm legitimately upset with you and i think that i absolutely have a right to be.

[Firebringer]

you always have the right to be upset, the question is if you being upset is justified which is more judgemental/open to interpretation and I don't think you are justified in being upset rn. Want to talk about it more?

[RadiantCowbells]

nah, i'll just recruit you so if we get mislynched in 4 way you take the L too.

[Firebringer]

but i am not in this game :O

[Firebringer]

I don't care about winning buddy. But i would be honored to lose with you <3

[RadiantCowbells]

well yeah, that's kind of the point. it's not even about your inability to read me, i don't care if you can read me. it would be unfair to single you out for that.
from your point of view, i feel like your tie to me as your friend should make it so that if you scumread me, you don't say shit about it.

i wouldn't have called you scum if the situation was reversed and i scumread you, because i wouldn't want to be the reason you lost whether i was right or wrong and it doesn't matter to me who wins.

[Firebringer]

can i be honest with you and say that i barely feel like i am your friend anyways? not in that i don't like you or anything but like we don't talk anymore, you are completely distant with me, and anytime i talk to you it feels like you don't want to even talk to me.

so you pulling the friendship on me i think would normally make me feel guilty, but i am kind of like "are we even friends?"

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't know. I feel like you have an idea of how I should be that isn't how I am and I don't want to change to suit it and it makes it hard to interact with you.

[RadiantCowbells]

And it's not pulling the friendship card. This is absolutely my response here as both alignments.

[Firebringer]

i get u don't like me calling u scum, i guess i should have considered that. So if you want an apology for that, sure. I guess I shouldn't have bothered say anything, sorry bro.

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean, there's calling me scum when your win condition requires you to, and when you don't actually have a win condition.

[RadiantCowbells]

idk. i feel like after team mafia we did kinda stop being friends. not sure why.

[Firebringer]

and if i was playing with u, you wouldn't approve me calling u scum anyways. I don't think this is unique to scum!rc or town!rc. I just think its a shitty thing to do play our friendship as this conditional thing where i can't do these things where i am walking on eggshells to play with you or avoid you.

id rather we just call a quits to the friendship and just good acquaintances tbh. I don't feel like anything changes except there wouldn't be this thing being held over my head about how i play around you?

[Firebringer]

idk. i feel like after team mafia we did kinda stop being friends. not sure why.

i don't think we agreed on the shit that went down and you been pulling away from our friendship for awhile. I felt like this was my issue for a long time tbh, but I think its just the way it is. We can't agree on stuff, its fine though. If you don't want to be friends thats cool, but I am done trying to be the friend when someone doesn't want to be my friend. Its cool though, nothing should really change, i am just going to stop trying to engage in random conversations with you in private and stuff.

[RadiantCowbells]

the only way that my thoughts on team mafia have changed are that I regret deciding to be nice to Cheeky and Hinduragi and forfeit the game.
if I did it again I'd have played full out for the duration of the game, finished mislynching chesskid, and won the game.

so, yeah, guess we disagree on what the lesson from TM was.

[RadiantCowbells]

actually the real mistake in team mafia was me playing scum, but.

[Firebringer]

which is funny because we had an argument over that pregame.

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't want you to feel like i'm holding something over you to threaten you to not vote me. regardless of if we're friends or not.
i think i should really just retire this account and play on another account with no expectations (hi NSG) of me performing as either alignment.

i think as of right now there's no way to perform simultaneously at the level that I am as both alignments without imposing some kind of externality on the gamestate.

[RadiantCowbells]

but that wasn't the right idea a year or however long ago.

[Firebringer]

well you let me know what you want to do, because I am not gonna do the dance around what we typically do. I am going for an all or nothing approach in which we have no rules on how we behave to each other in games excluding just not being disrespectful/toxic in conversations or we just not play together. I feel that is the best approach to our continuous problem.

[RadiantCowbells]

apparently no one besides me feels like you commited a faux pas if that helps