Mini 2084: Pokemon Ruby Mafia - Game Over

[Pink Ball]

Gamma I already told you, stop losing your time trying to make me look bad, I already did that for myself and I'm not getting lynched before you. My play on D1 was "I'm disengaged, I'll try to take the best out of it" and there are no more excuses about that

[Gamma Emerald]

Who all has agreed in some way with Menalque's case on me/Cinnamon in some way? I get the feeling it's quite a lot

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma I already told you, stop losing your time trying to make me look bad, I already did that for myself and I'm not getting lynched before you. My play on D1 was "I'm disengaged, I'll try to take the best out of it" and there are no more excuses about that

You didnt answer my question though, why did you not want to vote until you got to know names?

[Pine]

Are we giving pine too much power here with two possible hammers?

I'm not sure I back either lynch right now.

At 9:16 I'm sitting down at my laptop, probably for the rest of the night. There's a massive thunderstorm predicted for tomorrow, so the huge campwide game I had planned just went in the bin. We're scaling back to an indoor skits-and-songs thing with appearances by costumed characters to be staged at the end. I still need to finish the Bowser costume, but Mario, Luigi, and Peach are ready to go.

The upshot is that, while I have to go make a new write-up so that our staff know the plan, I have a bunch of unexpected time tonight.

I'll make my decision on whether to back one of those two options or push through a flashwagon within an hour or two.

[EspressoPatronum]

Meanwhile, over in PB's iso....

Let's lynch Gamma boys. Even if we're wrong, we lynch ofrhz tomorrow. This VC seems to be that we have a scum wagon and a counterwagon, so let's do it

Can I get a promise from all the ofrhz voters to vote Gamma tomorrow if ofrhz flips town?

ofrhz will you hate me if I hammer you?

Now, I know that this posts will look awful if ofrhz flips scum, but whatever

I won't lynch ofrhz yet 'cause maybe Pine and Elements join us and Gamma gets lynched

[EspressoPatronum]

Those don't look like town reads on ofhrz. They're admittedly cherry-picked quotes, but I don't see how PB can say he's not at least a little bit on the fence about this.

Even if he wants Gamma gone, he's happy with ofrhz tomorrow.

[Pine]

Meanwhile, over in PB's iso....

Let's lynch Gamma boys. Even if we're wrong, we lynch ofrhz tomorrow. This VC seems to be that we have a scum wagon and a counterwagon, so let's do it

Can I get a promise from all the ofrhz voters to vote Gamma tomorrow if ofrhz flips town?

ofrhz will you hate me if I hammer you?

Now, I know that this posts will look awful if ofrhz flips scum, but whatever

I won't lynch ofrhz yet 'cause maybe Pine and Elements join us and Gamma gets lynched

These quotes are all internally consistent. Your push on PB doesn't make any sense.

Further, when you're as Town as PB is, you can afford to play a bit looser.

[Gamma Emerald]

Those don't look like town reads on ofhrz. They're admittedly cherry-picked quotes, but I don't see how PB can say he's not at least a little bit on the fence about this.

Even if he wants Gamma gone, he's happy with ofrhz tomorrow.

He's actually trying to lobby for people to vote me tomorrow if he hammers offers. Although what I find interesting is him caring about if offers would hate him for hammering him

[Pine]

Those don't look like town reads on ofhrz. They're admittedly cherry-picked quotes, but I don't see how PB can say he's not at least a little bit on the fence about this.

Even if he wants Gamma gone, he's happy with ofrhz tomorrow.

Don't cherry pick as Town, and don't admit to doing it as scum unless called on it (and then only in a shame-faced kind of way). Cherry-picking means intentionally ignoring contrary evidence, which is distinctly not Town.

[EspressoPatronum]

Those don't look like town reads on ofhrz. They're admittedly cherry-picked quotes, but I don't see how PB can say he's not at least a little bit on the fence about this.

Even if he wants Gamma gone, he's happy with ofrhz tomorrow.

Don't cherry pick as Town, and don't admit to doing it as scum unless called on it (and then only in a shame-faced kind of way). Cherry-picking means intentionally ignoring contrary evidence, which is distinctly not Town.

See my 1947 post and PB's reply at 1949 for context.

[Pink Ball]

You guys are taking me waaaaay too literal. I unvoted ofrhz long time ago and I'm voting Gamma when both are at L-1, I think that's enough info on who I'm scumreading and who I'm townreading. EP, what you're quoting is use of rethorics for getting Gamma lynched now, not tomorrow.

[Pink Ball]

Gamma I already told you, stop losing your time trying to make me look bad, I already did that for myself and I'm not getting lynched before you. My play on D1 was "I'm disengaged, I'll try to take the best out of it" and there are no more excuses about that

You didnt answer my question though, why did you not want to vote until you got to know names?

I was active lurking, it's pretty obvious. I was legit not doing anything and I didn't know everyone in the game and I wasn't trying to know them either. I wanted to see what Tim was going to do.

[EspressoPatronum]

You guys are taking me waaaaay too literal. I unvoted ofrhz long time ago and I'm voting Gamma when both are at L-1,

I think that's enough info on who I'm scumreading and who I'm townreading

. EP, what you're quoting is use of rethorics for getting Gamma lynched now, not tomorrow.

Your ISO didn't make this clear at all... it just looks like you have two scum reads and you want one gone more than the other.

Can you post your reads list please?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma I already told you, stop losing your time trying to make me look bad, I already did that for myself and I'm not getting lynched before you. My play on D1 was "I'm disengaged, I'll try to take the best out of it" and there are no more excuses about that

You didnt answer my question though, why did you not want to vote until you got to know names?

I was active lurking, it's pretty obvious. I was legit not doing anything and I didn't know everyone in the game and I wasn't trying to know them either. I wanted to see what Tim was going to do.

Why wouldn't you try to get to know them? What does Tim doing anything matter? This doesn't seem like how town behaves when disengaged. What games on this account on any other do you recall where you were disengaged?

[Elements]

I'm getting a very confident vibe from PB. The whole "lynch one now lynch one tomorrow" thing shouts to me as a "if you lynch ofrhz they'll flip town and i will have proven my point and we can get gamma tomorrow" and "if we lynch gamma they'll flip town, i will have proven my point and we can get to finding partners of which ofrhz isn't one"
So more of a hurry up thing over a they will both be lynch by the end of tomorrow ultimatum

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm getting a very confident vibe from PB. The whole "lynch one now lynch one tomorrow" thing shouts to me as a "if you lynch ofrhz they'll flip town and i will have proven my point and we can get gamma tomorrow" and "if we lynch gamma they'll flip town, i will have proven my point and we can get to finding partners of which ofrhz isn't one"
So more of a hurry up thing over a they will both be lynch by the end of tomorrow ultimatum

>_<?

[Elements]

I'm getting a very confident vibe from PB. The whole "lynch one now lynch one tomorrow" thing shouts to me as a "if you lynch ofrhz they'll flip town and i will have proven my point and we can get gamma tomorrow" and "if we lynch gamma they'll flip town, i will have proven my point and we can get to finding partners of which ofrhz isn't one"
So more of a hurry up thing over a they will both be lynch by the end of tomorrow ultimatum

>_<?

I'm taking that as a "you what?!"

[Pink Ball]

You guys are taking me waaaaay too literal. I unvoted ofrhz long time ago and I'm voting Gamma when both are at L-1,

I think that's enough info on who I'm scumreading and who I'm townreading

. EP, what you're quoting is use of rethorics for getting Gamma lynched now, not tomorrow.

Your ISO didn't make this clear at all... it just looks like you have two scum reads and you want one gone more than the other.

Can you post your reads list please?

I won't lynch ofrhz yet 'cause maybe Pine and Elements join us and Gamma gets lynched

I don't care, as long as we get a red flip before flipping me

p-edit: let's get those lynches first so instead of an hypothetic question I can answer it as a real question. It could be RP for the whole "he's not scum because of day talk", seemed like a cheap LAMIST thing.

I'm pretty sure my three preferences are very clear in this two posts before you stated that it looks like I'm fencesitting.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm getting a very confident vibe from PB. The whole "lynch one now lynch one tomorrow" thing shouts to me as a "if you lynch ofrhz they'll flip town and i will have proven my point and we can get gamma tomorrow" and "if we lynch gamma they'll flip town, i will have proven my point and we can get to finding partners of which ofrhz isn't one"
So more of a hurry up thing over a they will both be lynch by the end of tomorrow ultimatum

>_<?

I'm taking that as a "you what?!"

Depends on whether you made a typo in a certain spot

[Pink Ball]

Gamma I already told you, stop losing your time trying to make me look bad, I already did that for myself and I'm not getting lynched before you. My play on D1 was "I'm disengaged, I'll try to take the best out of it" and there are no more excuses about that

You didnt answer my question though, why did you not want to vote until you got to know names?

I was active lurking, it's pretty obvious. I was legit not doing anything and I didn't know everyone in the game and I wasn't trying to know them either. I wanted to see what Tim was going to do.

Why wouldn't you try to get to know them? What does Tim doing anything matter? This doesn't seem like how town behaves when disengaged. What games on this account on any other do you recall where you were disengaged?

I'm better reading people who I already know and played before, so focusing on those slots is what I did. Tim is a difficult player to play with if he's scum, and a reliable source of reads if he's town, so I was focusing on him. And I'm good at reading Tim, better than a lot of players in this site.

"This doesn't seem like how town behaves when disengaged" is an empty acussation that, once more, you're using to make me look bad, and this is the third time I tell you: stop doing that, you're not getting me lynched.

[Gamma Emerald]

Menalque u r a person 2
Lil Uzi Vert
Creature
ceejayvinoya

I feel like these would be people you'd know. Especially Creature.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also if you answer my question PB I don't have to rely on my own assumptions on how disengaged town would act because I'd understand how you act.

[Pink Ball]

vivi replaced out too early, same with urap2. LUV never played with him before. Creature I interacted quite a lot at some point in the game and I've been trying to sort him.

What's your point, dear

p-edit: I'm answering your questions.

[Pink Ball]

I really don't get what you're trying to accomplish

[Elements]

I'm getting a very confident vibe from PB. The whole "lynch one now lynch one tomorrow" thing shouts to me as a "if you lynch ofrhz they'll flip town and i will have proven my point and we can get gamma tomorrow" and "if we lynch gamma they'll flip town, i will have proven my point and we can get to finding partners of which ofrhz isn't one"
So more of a hurry up thing over a they will both be lynch by the end of tomorrow ultimatum

>_<?

I'm taking that as a "you what?!"

Depends on whether you made a typo in a certain spot

Which spot?