Am I going to actually have to demonstrate to you how Pine's ISO isn't a scum!Pine ISO?
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Now in general I think his play is too loud for scum!Pine but I'll give a good example here: his behavior around DP today.
Like why does he vocalize the concern about the fake loyal neighborize? It's asking to get called outIn post 2139, Pine wrote: 1017 - Okay, I'm going to level with you all. When I got to this post, DP's declaration of being inducted into the Hood, I had a mini-epiphany, and thought HOLY SHIT THIS COULD BE FAKE. Practically everyone had posted, no one else had claimed the hood, and the action failing is entirely possible if Tim/RC targeted scum. It'd be free clearance. Hell, I did something similar in DC Universe Mafia back in the day, where I waited to be the last player to post D1 and fakeclaimed Miller in my post 1. It worked flawlessly. So I grabbed a pad and started scribbling, crossing off names. When DP posted, only Chemist, Klick, ofrhz, and DP himself hadn't posted at least once. With at least one of those likely scum, it's not an *insane* risk, but still improbable, especially with the level of detail in the alleged Hood conversation. So never mind, he's probably telling the truth. Thought I had something there for a sec
Which is what I did that caused this to be posted. On top of that scum would have discussed things where Pine would have probably been able to see this has already been discussed, and there's no reason to bring it back up if you know that. In addition:In post 2169, Pine wrote:No. That’s what I was checking for. Several people hadn’t posted, and there’s a good chance the theoretical other neighbor wouldn’t have claimed yet. Scum!DP would have been taking an enormous unnecessary risk.
Why provoke a confirmed town liked this? One of my beliefs is that mafia will attempt to discredit confirmed town, but this isn't discrediting, it's a call out. So like he's just too brazen here to be scum. Fyi this isn't a "scum wouldn't do this" case, it's a "scum!Pine wouldn't do this" caseIn post 2319, Pine wrote:Non-presence? Really? Mr I've done dick with my IC status?<Embrace The Void>
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Yay I’m amusing c:In post 2457, Detective Pikachu wrote:I'm going V/LA for the rest of this R/L week
Creature - town
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Pine -- slightly leaning town but plausibly wrong here
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I'm still doing my Ep read through but I do have a question for Menalque: my predecessor Cinnamon used the term "right now" a lot. Now you claim a lot of experience with Cinnamon, so I want you to take a page out of the scumhunting book of a player called Ellibereth: which alignment does Cinnamon use it more as?<Embrace The Void>
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About to sign off for the night but before I do I want to let you know I'm done reading through EP and he is solidly town
I know some people asked for explanation so I'll talk about my meta on him and if more is requested I'll post a more comprehensive analysis of him in this game
I reviewed him in two games (Newbie 1936 and the Pastries micro Normal) and I determined he has rather non-convoluted posts which show nuanced and insightful thinking as town<Embrace The Void>
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In post 2456, RedPanda wrote:I was put at L-1 today. I think you could glean a lot of info on my wagon if you townread me.The speed of RP's wagon forming makes me think at least 1 scum would have been involved. Seeing Chemist flip would help sort that, in addition to the other benefits of a Chemist lynch (lylo liability, bandwagoning, ellitell)
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Whoa hold up. Your assertion is blatantly bullshit. It discounts the possibility of a planned bus, which is nonsense.In post 2468, EspressoPatronum wrote:In post 2456, RedPanda wrote:I was put at L-1 today. I think you could glean a lot of info on my wagon if you townread me.The speed of RP's wagon forming makes me think at least 1 scum would have been involved. Seeing Chemist flip would help sort that, in addition to the other benefits of a Chemist lynch (lylo liability, bandwagoning, ellitell)
I don't see scum bussing so early in the day. If Chemist flips scum, RP is likely town.
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I think I want to see this flip. All due respect to GEmerald, I’ve heard one too many things I can’t justify from an honest Town perspective"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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So you're telling me scum planned to bus RP and leave him at a hammer for almost an hour? Assuming what you're saying is true, that means both scum were on the wagon... that leaves scum!RP vulnerable to the whims of every other town.In post 2469, Pine wrote:
Whoa hold up. Your assertion is blatantly bullshit. It discounts the possibility of a planned bus, which is nonsense.In post 2468, EspressoPatronum wrote:In post 2456, RedPanda wrote:I was put at L-1 today. I think you could glean a lot of info on my wagon if you townread me.The speed of RP's wagon forming makes me think at least 1 scum would have been involved. Seeing Chemist flip would help sort that, in addition to the other benefits of a Chemist lynch (lylo liability, bandwagoning, ellitell)
I don't see scum bussing so early in the day. If Chemist flips scum, RP is likely town.
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I think I want to see this flip. All due respect to GEmerald, I’ve heard one too many things I can’t justify from an honest Town perspective
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Is this an unvote or a vote for Chemist?
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