Mini 2087 - Surprise Mafia - Game Over

[Cojones Kickers]

CK had a pretty townie iso imo, I agreed with their Arc vote at the time and I liked their initiative for town.

I found it awkward and lamist

Also hmm

[Cojones Kickers]

Voyc
Omochao
Momo
Elastic plastic
Ponchomonkey
Dunn

NM
Drew
Strange brew

[Cojones Kickers]

This is where I’m at

I’ve come round to Dunn is town but just bad but kinda depends on my PoE being right re:NM

Drew has got excellent odds of being scum mechanically, but strange brew has done the worst move

Happy to lynch either out of drew and strange brew

-M

[Dunnstral]

Drew has got excellent odds of being scum

mechanically

Go on...

[Dunnstral]

Not sure how you can "poe" anything right now

We need more people to come in and actually play the game they signed up for

How confident are you in reads on Voyc through Ponchomonkey?

[Dunnstral]

Also your argument for strange brew being scum still doesn't acknowledge that there was a voting phase ehere he couldn't slip out of anything, which I talked about on the last page

Not a good luck when you're ignoring info to keep pushing instead of reassesing

Or better explanation he knew that hammering would bring us into a low info voting stage where the odds of a mislynch were still good, probs partly counting on your shitty logic that seems to be prevalent onsite that if someone does something objectively antitown that’s blatant then it’s too obvious for it to be scum so it should be forgiven

I mean you realise that’s exactly what scum rely on to play antitown moves right

Also even if it was to get him killed it would give two dead town to one scum with v little info, aka a gamestate primed for manipulation which still benefits scum

Did u just like not read this when you said I ignored your thing about the voting stage

Or r u just misrepping again?

-M

Actually i\I forgot about that

I don't agree that that is what my logic is exactly, they did something that could get them killed without the chance to argue back and that's what I felt like you weren't acknowledging

I don't think two dead town to one scum is a great trade at the start of the game..? 2-8 seems like worse odds than 3-10

“Keep pushing that” way to misrep

I mentioned you + strange brew scum twice, and only once as an actual thing

-M

Not sure what you're going on about here, you were pushing it

I’ve come round to Dunn is town but just bad but kinda depends on my PoE being right re:NM

I don't think you're in a position to call me bad when your reads are: Hammer = scummy, drew = scummy " " "mechanically" " ", not mafia scummy because of poe when people have single digit post numbers, Me scummy because I disagreed with your read

[singletonking]

Vote Count 2.2

Cojones Kickers (4): momo, Omochao, Doctor Drew, Dunnstral
Rx Strange Brew (1): Cojones Kickers
Doctor Drew (1): Elastic Plastic

Not Voting (4): Rx Strange Brew, Not_Mafia, ponchomonkey, Voyc

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The deadline is on 3 August 4am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-08-03 04:00:00)

[Nancy Drew 39]

ego post.

I’ve been/still am really sick and did not participate at all on D1. I personally wouldn’t have done what my hydra partner did. I really thought I get mislynched without ever getting a chance to play. I haven’t really read much but pretty sure Dunn is town here.

[Rx Strange Brew]

ego post.

I’ve been/still am really sick and did not participate at all on D1. I personally wouldn’t have done what my hydra partner did. I really thought I get mislynched without ever getting a chance to play. I haven’t really read much but pretty sure Dunn is town here.

[Rx Strange Brew]

I don't think RX strange brew goes for the hammer there if he's scum and knows that people are going to vote to lynch right after

Apart from the fact that I’m p sure the head of the hydra that did that was FL who entirely would do that as scum then hide behind this logic

Also has an admittedly pretty warranted confidence in his ability to talk his way out of a lynch

The hammer was objectively antitown bc it cut off all discussion or ability to make better informed reads

VOTE: strange brew

-M

Y’all, id hella do that as town over scum.

I also didn’t vote for Arcfield during the night.

And it takes more than 1 vote to lynch someone. Y’all put the guy overboard, pay the price

[Rx Strange Brew]

I don't think RX strange brew goes for the hammer there if he's scum and knows that people are going to vote to lynch right after

Apart from the fact that I’m p sure the head of the hydra that did that was FL who entirely would do that as scum then hide behind this logic

Also has an admittedly pretty warranted confidence in his ability to talk his way out of a lynch

The hammer was objectively antitown bc it cut off all discussion or ability to make better informed reads

VOTE: strange brew

-M

Y’all, id hella do that as town over scum.

I also didn’t vote for Arcfield during the night.

And it takes more than 1 vote to lynch someone. Y’all put the guy overboard, pay the price

FL

[Rx Strange Brew]

Everyone says “FL would totally do that as scum!!

Bit like...the fact is I hammer more as town than i do as scum.

And I also hard defend people sometimes, as scum and town alike, so that’s the epitome of an NAI case, and while I don’t think it’s bad to scum read my slot for it, when I saw that the night event was to vote, I thought we were fucked.

Also, I mainly thought it was funny that lynch wasn’t able to go through in first 48 hours, and he was L-1 by the time that ended, and none y’all unvoted.

There is scum on that wagon.

[Rx Strange Brew]

So get at me.

Also, idk if I think Kickers is scum from that, he’s just wrong and annoying, so scum could be pushing him.

-FL

[Rx Strange Brew]

I agree with Nance that Dunn is likely town, though. As someone who’s familiar with me as well, for him to get at Kickers is townie.

I made a mistake. I voted for Dunn last night based solely on his spot on the wagon yesterday.

Thankfully, that didn’t go through.

~FL

[Rx Strange Brew]

Oh, Kickers is Menalque. Neat.

~FL

[Rx Strange Brew]

-There are no power roles. However, players may gain powers during each event.
-Every Night, there will be an event.
-The Town will only know the event at the start of the Night that the event takes place.
-The Mafia will know what the event is on the previous Night.

also, idk why people are bringing up claiming. Read the rules.

The event was the Town Night lynch.

I imagine Mafia knew about the event Night 0.

So that means ScumMe would know town got a night lynch and still made that hammer like that.

If I was anyone else, that’d be a town lock. but I get it since it’s me, it’s not. It’s just funny.

-FL

[Cojones Kickers]

Drew has got excellent odds of being scum

mechanically

Go on...

Look up the wiki article on “flailing” and check the scum improvement rate on people using that term

[Cojones Kickers]

Not sure how you can "poe" anything right now

We need more people to come in and actually play the game they signed up for

How confident are you in reads on Voyc through Ponchomonkey?

Not very?

But that’s where I’m at now based on the info we have so far

[Cojones Kickers]

Also yeah 2-8 isn’t great but again that’s a worse case perspective for them, 3-7 probably looks like it’s worrh the risk of the quick hammer esp when it’s so within FL’a meta and he’s as good as talking as he is

Like I still think the objectively right play here is to lynch him

But he’s really good at getting in my head so I feel less sure now

Which equally makes me think lynch him is rationally a better idea

-M

[Cojones Kickers]

Oh, Kickers is Menalque. Neat.

~FL

I was gonna say I was a lil hurt when you called me annoying FL

-M

[Cojones Kickers]

Who was talking about claiming?

-M

[Cojones Kickers]

@dunn I wasn’t pushing it as literally anyone can see by looking at my ISO

Stop misrepping

Also I genuinely don’t understand how you don’t think the hammer was scummy

I can understand thinking it’s too scummy for scum

I mean, I think that’s a bad way of looking at it but k

But actually trying to say it’s not scummy so just wow

-M

[Rx Strange Brew]

I stand by my hammer being pro-town.

FL

[Dunnstral]

Popcorn to somebody

[singletonking]

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