Gay Dance! [Donezo]

[chennisden]

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[chennisden]

Are you sufficiently annoyed yet Bitmap?

[Bitmap]

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is a wall post.

[pienyan]

I... am just going to hope bitmap is trolling till I see the flip.

[chennisden]

idk whether ur shit posts or actual posts are less helpful, bitmap

[Bitmap]

im going to be fire 2.0

[Bitmap]

when no one listens to my serious posts, i just poop post.

[GuyInFreezer]

I... am just going to hope bitmap is trolling till I see the flip.

Incoming table flip

[chennisden]

Flip the

bottle

table.

[Bitmap]

I... am just going to hope bitmap is trolling till I see the flip.

Incoming table flip

[chennisden]

u dont even really play smash, bitmap

[Bingle]

inb4 fire/bingle team and we are all schooled

I wish.

[chennisden]

Being scum would be nice

[pienyan]

Where's Alisae? My mind is about to melt.

[chennisden]

If I were alisae id be insane too.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm going to speak up before I do anything else:

Everyone calm the fuck down and please read this before you do anything else.

The end of last day phase was put bluntly, a clusterfuck. I sort of just want to step back and talk about what happened for a bit, because I am not letting that shit fly any longer than it needs to.

I think a lot of this started with Ank trying to ram through her awful Vecna read full Wisdom style, making the entire atmosphere of the game about her and her read and then flipping out and trying to make everything about her yet again by going and leaving the dance because after I forced her to hold back on her lynch she had to protect her ego and go "who cares let's just pick town pairs and make everyone leave" instead. Frankly I don't really blame most people in this game for the game devolving into chaos like this, because her and the way she was doing this sort of just made it impossible for it _not_ to. The way she was playing escalated tensions in the game a lot and it made it really easy for everyone's feelings to get hurt, not just hers or mine or Vecna's.

This is more so the case when you consider what actually happens when people go lone wolf mode and try to leave instead of actually working together and forming proper lynches with wagons. When people leave like that, well chaos just happens. You don't get people playing for the sake of the game, you get everyone fighting for themselves, trying to make a point while everyone else is just left frustrated not being able to do jack shit about it because you can't convince anyone of anything once they have that power in their hands. Then when it doesn't work (and most of the time it doesn't) everyone just is shit out of luck because we get literally no information whatsoever from the deaths of the players when they leave like that, the atmosphere is still shit and with no way out of it, the chaos continues.

I think the best thing we can do right now is all just put the end of last day phase behind us entirely, try to forget about it and go back to playing the game. I said at the start of the game no one should leave (though I can't stop sakura doing so in MYLO) and I firmly stand by that. Yes, we are down two pairs now but I see absolutely no reason we can't still do this. We just need to step the fuck back and think about it- and GIF I sort of also am a little irritated at you for this because I know you wanted to try to bait a NK and keep morale up, but it kills _my_ morale when you sit there and refuse to allow any pressure on the person who's my strongest scum read, and I hope now that you were shown to be wrong about Ausuka you can step back and listen to my read here. It was nowhere near as blantant as Ank but yes, you played into this whole "me first" mindset that consumed Ank and everyone else at the end of last dayphase, and I think I'm not the only one who got sort of irritated at how obtuse you were being about your own pair.

From there on we just need to be calm, not lose confidence in our town reads (it is possible! I had vecna/ausuka town after all), play calmly and actually do proper lynches with wagons and not this me-first my solve listen to my point bullshit.

Tl;dr: I don't want this game to be heated for another second. If you're upset please just take a step back, breathe and actually try to think about it.

OK?

(Yes I wrote this post overnight.)

I had been entertaining Fire as scum overnight and this convinces me it's a thing. I'd already disliked his lack of reaction to the chaos and this adds a new reason to the pile. Scum really just don't want to get noticed and damaged in the chaos so the best way to not do that is stay in the shadows which is what I feel Firebringer did. So with that on top of just not feeling like his actual reaction was a town one I really think he is scum.
That said I'd prefer to not vote until I feel okay with it

[Gamma Emerald]

guys did u know u could use ur PT at night?

because apparently i forgot to.

Dude did this same thing in Witches Ball as scum, yikes

[Gamma Emerald]

Here's why I think the final scum are in the same pair:

(1) the kill on the IC indicates that scum DOESN'T need me dead to win. I.e. that they just need to be in the final pairing. In fact scum has a clear path to victory - lynch the other two pairs don't get lynched and then Sakura leaves then they go "yeet bye bye"
(2) there's been A LOT OF PAIRS defending their partner rly hard. if ur irrationally defending ur partner rly hard u can just die anyway tbh.

I'm open to the possibility of my partner bring scum but I don't think they are rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh boy someone left/ got lynched I see

[Gamma Emerald]

Ugh

Is it FB/Bitmap

That would mortify me but maybe

[Gamma Emerald]

Let me say it this way FB

even if Gif/Bit is T/T

they're still not

towny

. Do you get the difference? Town isn't necessarily

towny

.

So what's the point of this post anyway?

[OkaPoka]

just one of those posts u ignore

[Bingle]

So, about 140 of the pages?

[OkaPoka]

wow ur cool

[Firebringer]

maybe gamma is town