mini 2093, the search - an interminable period of darkness.

[gobbledygook]

I guess it would be weird for him to freak out about a lyncher then the lyncher claims and then he isn’t that role

[gobbledygook]

Winner winner, turkey dinner

[Errantparabola]

vote count 2.4

123456789

(5): Pine, Elements, Skygazer, PenguinPower, gobbledygook

Dr Easy Bake

(2): Baezu Leaf, 123456789

Acute Right Obtuse

(1): Channel Fireball

Channel Fireball

(1): skitter30

Not Voting

(3): Menalque, Dr Easy Bake, Acute Right Obtuse

7 majority.
chennis head of ARO is V/LA thurs-sat.
skitter is V/LA fri-sun.
(expired on 2019-08-22 09:06:00)

[Elements]

i dont' think this game has many investigatives

My ability is such that an abilities that target me at night, I get a copy of to use in the day.

[skitter30]

I wonder if Skitter is the last buddy. I feel like if we test the “if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck” with Numbers theory that will give us information on CF’s role.

i don't understand why numbers is scummy here

i also don't interact with buddies this way as scum, like ever

[gobbledygook]

What does EC mean

[Elements]

What does IC mean

[Channel Fireball]

EC = Evil Child
IC = Innocent Child

like he could theoretically reveal himself as scum (if he is)
or he could reveal himself as town (if he is)

that would be funny, I don't think he is EC because that would actually be clever design, but strictly speaking it's correct to make an activated IC reveal in this gamestate

-Chanel

[gobbledygook]

Well Numbers isn’t scum hunting that’s for damn sure. Deb Gob scum read? Seriously? Low hanging fruit right there. Everyone playing like a 3P survivor but forgetting they need the town to win for their alt win con to even matter. People playing very short sighted imo

[Channel Fireball]

Short sighted design to make half the town wincons impossible to achieve and thus giving town 0 incentive to play like town since they can't win according to RAW

but strictly speaking that conversation should be held for post

-Chanel

[Baezu Leaf]

Pine do you normally play this stilted?

What do you mean by this?

[Baezu Leaf]

Not one of the listed colors

Lmao

[gobbledygook]

Pine do you normally play this stilted?

What do you mean by this?

Short sighted design to make half the town wincons impossible to achieve and thus giving town 0 incentive to play like town since they can't win according to RAW

but strictly speaking that conversation should be held for post

-Chanel

Yeah that’s fair

[PenguinPower]

i don't understand why numbers is scummy here

scum?cyrus outed himself to make a deal
scum?cyrus outed 123456789 as scum
scum!cyrus flipped scum

- Result: I trust cyrus more than anyone else

+

superloved makes sense if your wincon is to survive to D4 and one of your scum buddies wincon appears to be to get you lynched

+

123456789's reaction to the doublevoter seems to me like he knew where the kill went

=

best bet for scum in this game

[Baezu Leaf]

What role is that?

Outlaw.

Since we had a vigshot, I assumed taking care of that situation later that night and instead focusing on scumhunting would be useful but I guess we got screwed by game balance and we honestly grew apathetic of this game, since we know that this outlaw is probably town and has an IC-like ability. So you know.

- Fireball.

Interesting, because we think he might be prophet

-bae

[PenguinPower]

Everyone playing like a 3P survivor but forgetting they need the town to win for their alt win con to even matter. People playing very short sighted imo

Yes, this.

I currently believe that at least 4-5 town could achieve their wincon/town wincon based on what I know.

[Baezu Leaf]

It doesn't matter much anymore. EP was right and we are not going to win this game unless town collectively agrees to help us in our cause, which they won't do because this game is inherently designed so that does not happen. We have no interest in this game anymore, I suppose. It doesn't matter.

pedit: We tried to vig ARO last night. Nothing happened. We need to take them out by being on their lynch or shooting them, and we failed at shooting them. We know they have the power to reveal their alignment and their role, so unless this is a mafia role that has the ability to do something as soon as they reveal, it is much more likely that they are an IC. So my hydra partner and I grew seriously apathetic of this game when we realized it was heavily unlikely for us to win this game.

We also have a rolecop ability, which is why we can accurately say someone is a Priest this game. Not that it matters either. We just lost by game design.

- Fireball.

So you KNOW ARO is outlaw? Or did they give you some indication that they are outlaw?

[Baezu Leaf]

I honestly have no answer Penguin. I was just frustrated at the time that our only vigshot somehow got protected against. We kind of already know that we have probably no chances of winning this game, unless town wants to grant us our wincondition. We have a rolecop ability which could help town, for all that matters, so if we could perhaps bargain, that would be nice. Otherwise we have already lost this game anyway.

- Fireball.

So try to find the outlaw...if ARO actually IS the outlaw, we would gladly help lynch them

-bae

[Channel Fireball]

It doesn't matter much anymore. EP was right and we are not going to win this game unless town collectively agrees to help us in our cause, which they won't do because this game is inherently designed so that does not happen. We have no interest in this game anymore, I suppose. It doesn't matter.

pedit: We tried to vig ARO last night. Nothing happened. We need to take them out by being on their lynch or shooting them, and we failed at shooting them. We know they have the power to reveal their alignment and their role, so unless this is a mafia role that has the ability to do something as soon as they reveal, it is much more likely that they are an IC. So my hydra partner and I grew seriously apathetic of this game when we realized it was heavily unlikely for us to win this game.

We also have a rolecop ability, which is why we can accurately say someone is a Priest this game. Not that it matters either. We just lost by game design.

- Fireball.

So you KNOW ARO is outlaw? Or did they give you some indication that they are outlaw?

No we don't. We made that assumption because they said they had a lyncher-like role after them, which essentially is what our role is.

We considered that perhaps multiple people had a similar wincondition, but decided to take our shot because we were relatively confident that this was it. Although they survived our shot.

- Fireball.

[Baezu Leaf]

But you were the vig shot, right? Why would you assume there wasn't another shot (mafia) and say

with certainty

that my JK had nothing to do with no deaths last night.

yes this is also puzzling

and yes that doesn't sound like a town role really

Skitter, if CF is scum, I will eat alchemists hat

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Could you bring 123456789 to 7 votes to help with the test while we continue to discuss pls?

p-edit

I mean - we don't know that you had a vig shot since...no deaths and all.

FWIW I believe CF’s claim

[Baezu Leaf]

yeah i think this is kinda scummy

It’s not scummy skitter- he’s frustrated

[Baezu Leaf]

yeah i think this is kinda scummy

gobble and deb are scum. Possibly Menlaque.

Channel, please stop self-voting. I think both you and ARO are town.

This is how I feel too...

Can gobble, menalque, or DEB be outlaw?

[Baezu Leaf]

Well...F at least.

Is it RCEnigma?

[Menalque]

Only if he’s a goddamn liar