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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:38 am

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In post 449, Oversoul wrote:Ok. I am ready for day to end, I think I have all the info I need.

Make sure you get your reads in Chemist
Are you actually not going to tell us your reads?
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:41 am

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Correct
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:44 am

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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:46 am

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Elements, what have I done that you think I'd be less likely to do as town, and why do you think that?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:53 am

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In post 453, Something_Smart wrote:Elements, what have I done that you think I'd be less likely to do as town, and why do you think that?
Your switch from one post saying to spare you day one, to emulating aspects of chennis and properly petitioning for your spare day two. Your "i can sort chennis" reason seems arbitrary in retrospect as most of us town read chennis pretty strongly hence him being the first spared. It feels like it was more meant to appease oversoul who was the only one not town reading chennis.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:14 am

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Why would I not act that way as town?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:15 am

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Or be unlikely to act that way as town, I should say.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:42 am

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It just doesn't seem like a town motivated thing. As a town we want the most town-read people spared you weren't particularly town read and still put yourself forward as a spare option spreading the votes.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:43 am

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In post 451, Oversoul wrote:Correct
and you wonder why people don't town read you
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:23 am

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I mean, never anywhere did I say that I would only support sparing myself :P From my point of view, self-spare is objectively the best option, so it was a good starting point. If people don't go for it, I've lost nothing as long as I eventually consolidate on a different wagon that I approve of.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:25 am

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And as for the "I can read chennis" bit, at that time I was under the impression that Oversoul strongly scumread chennis, which meant even if some people townread him he was not really consensus town.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:39 am

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In post 458, Elements wrote:
In post 451, Oversoul wrote:Correct
and you wonder why people don't town read you
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:32 am

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Votecount 2.3
Kill votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(0)
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Spare votes:

Something_Smart -----(0)
Elements -------------(0)
Oversoul --------------(0)
DrDolittle --------------(0)
Dr Easy Bake ----------(0)
volxen -----------------(0)
Chemist1422-----------(3) - Elements, DrDolittle, Adorable
Adorable----------------(0)
Emperor flippyNips-----(0)

Voting for a Kill (0):
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Voting for a Spare (3):
: Elements, DrDolittle, Adorable

Not voting at all(6):
Something_Smart, Oversoul, Emperor flippyNips, volxen, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to make a choice.


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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:33 am

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I don't have anything significant to add other than I'm ready to end the day and meh on Elements town.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:53 am

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In post 463, DrDolittle wrote:I don't have anything significant to add other than I'm ready to end the day and meh on Elements town.
Talk to me about the Elements read, I got the same vibes from them here as I did in Ruby
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:29 am

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was he scum in Ruby?
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:34 am

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like Elements is probably 80 percent town, but I wouldn't say he's 95 percent town.

my issue with elements is that he's really just going along with the "popular consensus", which in this style of game could be just going for, I need to be spared and as long as people town read me enough that's OK. For example, his read list of Chemist (obv town), Chennis (moot), and Adorable (adorable) as town seems to suggest that hey, if sparing the 4th, just spare me. He also finds it required to say SS and Oversoul as scum, but only one of them, it's might be used to throw shade at the null pile

But maybe I'm overthinking things
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:33 am

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On hindsight I realize that this might have been too pithy and I should make sure this is clear, since I was asked a "yes" or "no" question that was the "wrong question" and could lead me to misleading players.
I should have included a "no", to "are PRS notified when they heal someone" and please note what I've underlined above.
Toriel and Asgore receive necessary and sufficient information to submit their night actions, and to play the preceding day phase anticipating the use of their night action. This information triggers off of "healing" someone for both roles, but what triggers the mod PM is the real change in anticipated night actions, not the healing itself.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:36 am

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Alright I'm back and I've got furret walk music playing

Let's do this
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:36 am

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In post 465, DrDolittle wrote:was he scum in Ruby?
No, town
DrDolittle wrote:like Elements is probably 80 percent town, but I wouldn't say he's 95 percent town.

my issue with elements is that he's really just going along with the "popular consensus", which in this style of game could be just going for, I need to be spared and as long as people town read me enough that's OK. For example, his read list of Chemist (obv town), Chennis (moot), and Adorable (adorable) as town seems to suggest that hey, if sparing the 4th, just spare me. He also finds it required to say SS and Oversoul as scum, but only one of them, it's might be used to throw shade at the null pile

But maybe I'm overthinking things
So what makes him 80% town, given that you have this completely legitimate issue with him?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 am

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In post 251, Oversoul wrote:Hard claim never rescinding
I still want Oversoul to explain why they said this

Otherwise I kinda wanna townlean them for going out of their way to draw attention to themselves, with the PR fakeclaim and somewhat intentionally antagonizing people with the refusal to actually give their reads
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:40 am

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Chemist
Elements
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DDL
Oversoul
--others?--

idk I don't have any scumreads out of the half of the playerlist I've read into which is weird, but could also just mean I read the wrong people first
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:41 am

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In post 220, Emperor flippyNips wrote:People always say “ I don’t believe you didn’t know what you were getting in to when you signed up” but I never do. I just /indeed for the game cos the homie DEB is in the game.
I think this is a weird post given that this is the only acknoweldgement of DEB in their ISO except putting them at null in the readslist and calling them a sheep

Plus their ISO is pretty lacking on content as well
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:42 am

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In post 242, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@smarty- i don’t think I have that much experience with you in general. If I do I can’t remember, rn I’m worried of a Chennis/you team.
Plus there's this with no progression or follow-up
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:46 am

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Volxen is like

The most light of townreads

I don't think they've done anything they can't fake as scum but they're a little bit surface towny by the amount of solving
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