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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:24 pm

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A
Liberal
policy has been passed!



Session 3


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Table Order
  1. Formerfish
  2. Egix96
  3. OkaPoka
  4. VexVience
  5. NotMySpamAccount
  6. dweller
  7. Saladman27
Liberal Policy Tracker [2/5]: [#][#][ ][ ][!]

Fascist Policy Tracker [0/6]: [ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][!]

Exectutive actions with 7 players are
[No power][Investigate Loyalty][Call Special Election][Execution][Execution+Veto Powers Unlocked][Fascists Win]

Election Tracker [0/3]: [
*
][ ][ ][
!
]


Cards in policy deck: 11

Cards in policy deck when last shuffled:
6 Liberal
and
11 Fascist


Previous Successfully Elected Government:
(Cannot become Chancellor due to term limits)

Egix96
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dweller
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Confirmed Not Hitler:
(Has been successfully elected Chancellor after 3 Fascist policies have been passed)

No one


OkaPoka
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The next game action is for the president to nominate their chancellor.
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dweller
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The deadline for the next legislative session is (expired on 2019-10-24 11:25:00).
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:30 pm

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Would it be helpful to have a "NEIN until X is president" option (probably a unanimous vote), or is it preferable to go through the steps of having people nominate their Chancellors and voting, even if the plan is to reject it?
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:32 pm

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I think vex would be a good chance.
@mod, yeah sure
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:35 pm

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Shouldn't Oka be picking me since I already passed a lib policy?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:40 pm

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Hey all good morning... I received F and L card.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:44 pm

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oh yeah thats right we are supposed to say no til it gets to NMSA right?

We have the no elections available.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:48 pm

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Also if we are going with the meta that Oka pointed out then I think 37 is a good choice. because everyone deserves a chance at least for first deck
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:50 pm

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In post 106, dweller wrote:Also if we are going with the meta that Oka pointed out then I think 37 is a good choice. because everyone deserves a chance at least for first deck
Thats not what he said though, if we passed liberal policies on 15 and 26, then we go to 51 and 62 to have the least amount of people touching the deck as possible.

Im voting no until it gets to NMSA.

Anyone doing different will be in conflict with a clear liberal agenda.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:52 pm

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As it stands 4 people have touched cards and 2 lib policies passed. 3 players are facist and 3 people havent touched the deck, why would you want to put the power in the hands of people that have a higher probablity of being Facist
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:53 pm

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In post 103, Formerfish wrote:Shouldn't Oka be picking me since I already passed a lib policy?
I think for maximum info we should give everyone a chance to come in government. after that we should decide based on our judgements.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:55 pm

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In post 109, dweller wrote:
In post 103, Formerfish wrote:Shouldn't Oka be picking me since I already passed a lib policy?
I think for maximum info we should give everyone a chance to come in government. after that we should decide based on our judgements.
Thats not even what Oka suggested though, he suggested we keep it in 2 pairs if both passed lib policies. I dont even know why you are bringing this up since you were part of one pair, unless you are Fascist and cant keep doing that forever.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:56 pm

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What more info do you need than we have 4 people who all passed a lib policy and we have a way to keep the government in their hands so that we can win the game?

Do you not want to pass lib policies and win the game?
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:58 pm

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In post 32, OkaPoka wrote:if u nerds like meta play it would be 15 26

point of meta on first deck is to minimize number of touches of people on first deck to get info

but like

we are on mafiascum dot net

we can figure out who is evil using our words right folks

with that being said the thing about 15 26 is it allows libs to find a lib triangle (aka 3 libs that rule government forever for free wins)

ok any questions
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:58 pm

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In post 39, OkaPoka wrote:also want to remind everyone the goal of this game is to get liberal policies passed

the secondary goal is figuring out who is evil

but main goal is to pass lib policies
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:59 pm

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In post 45, OkaPoka wrote:im going to go more indepth

if 15 succeeds in getting a lib policy the next set is usually 26
if 26 succeeds then you have two lib pairing governments for the moment

you veto until seat 5 is president and seat 5 nominates 1 again, then seat 6 nominates 2 and you run these two governments back and forth until someone fails

altermatively if 26 fails then you go to 51 again and then after that you play 73 or 74 (you don't want to play either 2 or 6 here because they could have double dropped lib cards so you lock them out, and you need to find a winning triangle)

now for more interesting scenarios

if 15 fails and 26 fails then it becomes interesting because 2 has an investigate and usually you should investigate your own chancellor and then theory breaks down a bit on optimal choices of whether 37 or 47 or 6 should play but hopefully we dont reach that

but like meta is more of a guide

and since we are on a mafia site

we can use this as a guideline rather than a strict playbook (this is probably my least favorite part of secret hitler site, they only play meta and even if you scumread people and it can get throwy)


pedit: yes that would be the goal of finding a lib triangle, you leash it down so you have a good poe pool to find who is to blame if things fuck up
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:19 am

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In post 101, Mizzytastic wrote:
Would it be helpful to have a "NEIN until X is president" option (probably a unanimous vote), or is it preferable to go through the steps of having people nominate their Chancellors and voting, even if the plan is to reject it?
As long as it's unanimous, yeah.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:22 am

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Well I do not know much about the game so I want to hear what other people have to say.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:24 am

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In post 116, dweller wrote:Well I do not know much about the game so I want to hear what other people have to say.
If you don;t know much about the game like me, then join me in sheeping the ones who do until it stops working.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:24 am

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In post 58, NotMySpamAccount wrote:I like oka's strategy, it sounds good.
In post 59, Egix96 wrote:
In post 58, NotMySpamAccount wrote:I like oka's strategy, it sounds good.
Same here
In post 61, Vex Vience wrote:i was gonna post most of what oka said earlier but i was asleep.
also, 15 26 is the only thing ill currently ja. tho, i do want them to both red so i can play
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:25 am

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So right now Oka, Me, NMSA, Egix, and Vex like the plan.

Oka and Vex havent touched cards yet.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:37 am

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37 shouldnt play
4x shouldnt play
51 should play

I'm fine with neining till 51.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:25 am

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In post 120, Vex Vience wrote:37 shouldnt play
4x shouldnt play
51 should play

I'm fine with neining till 51.
Mhm yup.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:57 am

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Claim first. Nein until 51

Me touching the deck isn't helpful
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:58 am

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In post 122, YukzYuk wrote:Claim first. Nein until 51

Me touching the deck isn't helpful
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:12 am

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In post 123, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 122, YukzYuk wrote:Claim first. Nein until 51

Me touching the deck isn't helpful
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