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Post Post #11450 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:22 pm

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In post 11447, Iconeum wrote:
In post 11438, Alisae wrote:Like I don’t see how you can look at these posts Krazy is pushing out and say confidently “Oh yeah, that’s town for sho”
i don't townread his push

but

i questioned dann's not reconsidering when Krazy was doing what he should be doing according to dann

and I don't think scum is gonna start fighting against Ali for 'gaslighting' when that helps scum more then town

i know, unpopular opinion and all but i'm not here to sheep you blindly :)
Can you unpack this for me? I’m not following

When/where exactly were you questioning me?
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Post Post #11451 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:28 pm

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HURT: Krazy

PP might theoretically be a safer lynch? But that doesn’t progress the game and then I think we lynch Krazy anyway so

I’ll vote krazy after sleeping on this game since I have permission and I really don’t see myself voting elsewhere this dayphase

I feel like the gamestate is finally moving in a positive direction though so I’d like this phase to go for a couple more days at least
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Post Post #11452 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:31 pm

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In post 11429, Iconeum wrote:Dann, I don't know. His meta push on Krazy was good, but once Krazy started what should be towntelling for Dann: basicly playing the game, he wasn't reconsidering. This could very much be scum.
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Post Post #11453 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:32 pm

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In post 9784, Menalque wrote:
In post 9781, Alisae wrote:what was your gamestate read on pops again?
it's just like the timing of her interventions in the thread and the direction that they've gone in

I didn't really see it until early today (D4 today) when she was interacting with krazy

like the game was going in one direction which I thought was healthy and then pops actively seemed to derail that through those posts with krazy
In post 9785, Menalque wrote:so thenI started wondering about "what if pops is just scum" and everything just seemed to fit into place

I know that's not the best explanation ever but it's really hard to put my finger on exactly what it is that makes pops scum because I think it's v subtle. but I think if you look at pops' ISO then everything makes more sense coming from scum!her than town!her
In post 9786, Menalque wrote:I haven't been pushing her bc I don't think I'm likely to get her through and I think PP is a good option + thought building the wagon would be useful information-wise
@Duck, this is the stuff that has me doubting Menalque.

I could not track his though process in regards to Pops, and the way he kinda just gave up on explaining it felt like he just needed to have the scum read to pad his reads out and was hoping he’d get town read off tone.

Can you look at this and some of the stuff before this in his ISO

I’m struggling with seeing this as a genuine town thought process
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Post Post #11454 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:32 pm

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In post 11450, Dannflor wrote:Can you unpack this for me? I’m not followingWhen/where exactly were you questioning me?
could have been more clear about that

i wasn't questioning you about that in game, it was in my head :s
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Post Post #11455 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:34 pm

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dann, any reason why you did the hurt instead of a vote?
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Post Post #11456 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:34 pm

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In post 11429, Iconeum wrote:I think Krazy is town here, because I can relate to his feelings. He was being called scum for not pushing reads, which he would do as town. But this is a hard game to 'work in', and once you guys started playing with each other, you could really see Krazy get into his element. Yeah, I townread that.

GE felt more survivalistic, focusing more on not being scumread then actually scumhunting.

Dann, I don't know. His meta push on Krazy was good, but once Krazy started what should be towntelling for Dann: basicly playing the game, he wasn't reconsidering. This could very much be scum.
Oh wait I missed this

Do you think I’ve not been trying to engage Krazy in good faith this day phase?
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Post Post #11457 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:35 pm

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In post 11452, the worst wrote:
In post 11429, Iconeum wrote:Dann, I don't know. His meta push on Krazy was good, but once Krazy started what should be towntelling for Dann: basicly playing the game, he wasn't reconsidering. This could very much be scum.
In post 11455, the worst wrote:dann, any reason why you did the hurt instead of a vote?
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Post Post #11458 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:36 pm

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The answer is in the quote you made tho
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Post Post #11459 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:36 pm

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woopie got in between us there, mine was @ dann
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Post Post #11460 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:36 pm

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In post 11455, the worst wrote:dann, any reason why you did the hurt instead of a vote?
I’m very tired and a little emotional

I want the chance to just sleep on what happened tonight

99% I’m just voting Krazy tomorrow morning but I’m not in a hurry to end the day and MYLO status has me queasy
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Post Post #11461 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:37 pm

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like I know 5 scum coordinating a hammer isn’t likely

but I’m little more remotivated for this game and I would very much like to win
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Post Post #11462 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:38 pm

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In post 11458, Iconeum wrote:The answer is in the quote you made tho
I feel like I’ve given Krazy plenty of chances to help me reconsider

I’m not sure how you can read me like that tbh
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Post Post #11463 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:39 pm

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i reread those menaphos posts & before it for context
i don't scumread that
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Post Post #11464 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:40 pm

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okay thank you

I will sleep on that too
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Post Post #11465 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:41 pm

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and now I sleep because I have to wake up in 5 hours

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Post Post #11466 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:44 pm

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i thought it kinda... flowed
like, messily, but the way thoughts flow
i don't know

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Post Post #11467 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:25 pm

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Should I be voting?
Wanna vote for FB or Krazy
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Post Post #11468 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:36 pm

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@Dann hey dude, two things:

I think I've been pretty consistent moving the game forward to my prefered lynches, not because I'm not explicit enough means I'm not doing it. I want Krazy lynched. If I haven't voted yet is because we're in MyLo and we recently had a conftown replace in that's calling Krazy his biggest townread on his list. It's common sense and cordiality to reevaluate at this point.

Second, about my townread on you which you have bitched about a couple of times, why is simplicity a bad thing? Why do I need more complex reasons to have a read on you? Yes, I think you're town because I wouldn't expect scum!you try to post what you posted back in the appreciation page. I've read all of your posts and nothing has pinged me to the other direction, so why bothering? You're antagonizing Krazy and he's my biggest scumread, that's another reason if you really need one. But you're basically criticizing the way I approach this game as a whole: ping players I know as town as soon as possible to get a better read on players I do not know that much. Alchemist is a good example of this: since I was scum with him in Starcraft II I have locked a read on him based on his first early posts and I have been wrong once, and I was wrong that one time because Alch realized what he had to do, he had to play around me for a while and I wasn't used to that.
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Post Post #11469 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:46 pm

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@wooper I don't see how you get to like my posting in one page and dislike it in the next one, townread me already dude, or at least read in between lines and realize why I'm townreading you and realize I wouldn't townread you for what I'm implying if I were scum. It's all in this dayphase, and only you would get it. We're both town, solve the game with me.
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Post Post #11470 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:55 am

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i can work on a solve w u what's up
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Post Post #11471 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:57 am

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Krazy, PP, Ico, Maria, Fire.

What you think
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Post Post #11472 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:17 am

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Maybe
I need to think abt some stuff that I think it's kinda ott paranoid/detrimental for me to talk about right now

let me sleep on the issue in my brain and get back to you tomorrow

I think that solve has like, 3+ scum in it, I think. main one I disagree on is Ico who I'm starting to seriously think is town.
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Post Post #11473 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:22 am

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In post 11472, Wooper wrote:Maybe
I need to think abt some stuff that I think it's kinda ott paranoid/detrimental for me to talk about right now

let me sleep on the issue in my brain and get back to you tomorrow

I think that solve has like, 3+ scum in it, I think. main one I disagree on is Ico who I'm starting to seriously think is town.
Don't sweat it!

Yeh I knew you would talk about Ico, but I'm literally out of options if I'm right about Gamma and you. He's the most PoE read I have ever had in mafia history
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Post Post #11474 (ISO) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:27 am

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In post 11451, Dannflor wrote:HURT: Krazy

PP might theoretically be a safer lynch? But that doesn’t progress the game and then I think we lynch Krazy anyway so

I’ll vote krazy after sleeping on this game since I have permission and I really don’t see myself voting elsewhere this dayphase

I feel like the gamestate is finally moving in a positive direction though so I’d like this phase to go for a couple more days at least
Oh Dann since you're so eager of me making a better read on you: this is the only post I've seen from you that made me lift an eyebrow. Saying that PP is a safer lynch seems too calculated for a town pushing a scumread
on Krazy point of view.

If PP is town, you could be trying to put the idea of lynching him as an option.
If PP is scum, seems like a "in case PP is lynched I must say this for credit".

If you were town I wouldn't expect a post like this, but even with this in mind I think you're town. Big deal, I don't get your point, you're still town.

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