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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:03 am

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also, @dweller, the reason why we should nein 37 and 4x and not play every single gov is for the reasons why ff hit on already:
it minimizes the number of touches on the deck. the more people touching the deck, the less information we get overall.
for example, lets say the deck is RBRRBRRRBRRRBBBRR, and that 136 are all fascist, and 6 is hitty.

15 plays, 1 gets RBR, hands RR to chans. chans plays R, with RRR and RR claimed.
26 plays, 2 gets RBR, hands RB to chans. chans plays R, with RRB and RR claimed. -> 26 are now frozen.
37 plays. 3 gets RRB, hands RR to chans. chans plays R, with RRR and RR claimed. -> 3 now has inv, checks 7 due to meta. sees lib, claims fasc.
41 plays. 4 gets RRR, hands RR to chans. chans plays R, with RRR and RR claimed. -> 34 are now in soft conf, and 4 has SE. they pick 5. 5 doesn't have anyone they can pick. 14 are TL'd, 26 and 37 are in conf. They decided to gp 3.
53 plays. 5 gets BBB, hands BB to chans. chans plays B, with BBB and BB claimed. -> 3 is now cnh.
since two cards are remaining, the deck gets shuffled with 4B, 8R. however, theres a problem: a claim of 4B, 11R while technically possible, it's impossible in this situation, and there's a conflict. someone clearly dropped, but the question is who? additionally, the claim is impossible while there's a card conflict. 26 definitely has a fascist who dropped, 134 most likely has one since all three of them are claiming RRR. the problem becomes how you sort it out, which you'd struggle with in that scenario. that's also ignoring the fact that someone could've underclaimed or overclaimed, meaning they said they got more/less blue than they said they did.

now, lets run through that except without everyone touching:
deck is still RBRRBRRRBRRRBBBRR, and that 136 are all fascist, and 6 is hitty.

15 plays. 1 gets RBR, hands RR to chans. chans plays R, with RRR and RR claimed.
26 plays. 2 gets RBR, hands RB to chans. chans plays R, with RRB and RR claimed. -> 26 frozen due to conf
37 and 4x are both neined.
51 plays. 5 gets RRB, hands RB to chans. chans plays B, with RRB and RB claimed.
62 and 37 are both neined.
14 plays. 1 gets RRR, hands RR to chans. chans plays R, with RRR and RR claimed. -> 1 gets inv, and due to meta they inv chans. they see lib, and claim lib.
26 and 37 are both neined.
45 plays. 4 gets BBB, hands BB to chans. chans plays B, with BBB and BB claimed.
since two cards remain, the deck is shuffled with 4B, 8R, with 5B, 10R claimed. once again, this is an impossible claim. we have a conflict. once again, someone obviously dropped, but it's much easier to solve it here. 26 has fasc, but 14 likely has a fasc as well since both claimed RRR.

three cards unaccounted for, with two possible cards. however, its much easier to figure out who dropped here. we obviously know one of 26 dropped, however, the two RRR claims are also suspect. with that in mind, we can start narrowing down the suspect pool much faster.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:03 am

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In post 122, YukzYuk wrote:Claim first. Nein until 51

Me touching the deck isn't helpful
also, who tf are you?
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 126, Vex Vience wrote:
In post 122, YukzYuk wrote:Claim first. Nein until 51

Me touching the deck isn't helpful
also, who tf are you?
He's oka, alt slip.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:37 am

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can confirm
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:17 pm

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VOTE: nein to 5
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:45 pm

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President
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NotMySpamAccount
is president.

If this succeeds two governments will fail leaving the election tracker at 2/3 and
Egix96
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dweller
ineligible to be chancellor due to term limits.

To perform this could
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Vex Vience
please nominate who they would choose as Chancellor, and could everyone submit a vote via PM as a normal election. It requires a unanimous vote (7/7) and votes will be revealed after all have been submitted as normal.

If you are opposed to this as an option please say and I will not offer it again.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:54 pm

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Yes I also agree what is stated above. I will nein the next two governments if everyone wants this. Just waiting for Oka to nominate someone as chancellor.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:06 pm

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nominate fish
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:40 pm

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i really need to stop alt slipping

nominate formerfish
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:43 pm

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In post 129, OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: nein to 5
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:57 am

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nom oka


VOTE: nein to 5
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:21 am

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VOTE: nein to 5
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:25 am

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VOTE: Nein to 5

@Former: The Easton one is better ;)
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:24 am

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If this vote is successful
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For clarification, I am reading VOTE: JA or VOTE: NEIN to 5 as agreeing with this and VOTE: NEIN as disagreeing. In future please could you submit votes via PM, and only have the current president VOTE: NEIN to X in thread to initiate the vote.

I will accept the votes already submitted for this session as from my understanding of the thread it seems unlikely anyone will disagree, though if you would like to PM me as well I do enjoy the attention.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:29 pm

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ELECTION
JA (0/7)
-
NEIN (7/7)
- Formerfish, Egix96, OkaPoka, Vex Vience, NotMySpamAccount, dweller, Saladman27

Without a majority the government of
President OkaPoka
and
Chancellor Formerfish
has failed. The election tracker has advanced.


ELECTION
JA (0/7)
-
NEIN (7/7)
- Formerfish, Egix96, OkaPoka, Vex Vience, NotMySpamAccount, dweller, Saladman27

Without a majority the government of
President Vex Vience
and
Chancellor OkaPoka
has failed. The election tracker has advanced. If another government fails a random policy will be enacted.



Session 5

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  1. Formerfish
  2. Egix96
  3. OkaPoka
  4. VexVience
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  6. dweller
  7. Saladman27
Liberal Policy Tracker [2/5]: [#][#][ ][ ][!]

Fascist Policy Tracker [0/6]: [ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][!]

Exectutive actions with 7 players are
[No power][Investigate Loyalty][Call Special Election][Execution][Execution+Veto Powers Unlocked][Fascists Win]

Election Tracker [2/3]: [][][
*
][
!
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Cards in policy deck: 11

Cards in policy deck when last shuffled:
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11 Fascist


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(Cannot become Chancellor due to term limits)

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(Has been successfully elected Chancellor after 3 Fascist policies have been passed)

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The next game action is for the president to nominate their chancellor.
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The deadline for the next legislative session is (expired on 2019-10-26 06:30:00).
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:10 pm

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pick formerfish please
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:07 am

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NMSA what's on your mind? I am hoping you will be picking Formerfish as we discussed earlier.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:59 am

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In post 140, OkaPoka wrote:pick formerfish please
dweller wrote:NMSA what's on your mind? I am hoping you will be picking Formerfish as we discussed earlier.
I've been reading the thread, so yes, I'll be picking ff.

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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:24 am

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NotMySpamAccount
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The next game action is for the players to vote JA or NEIN on this government. Please submit your votes via PM to me, but remember when all votes are submitted your vote will be publicly revealed.

The deadline for the next legislative session is (expired on 2019-10-26 06:30:00).
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:51 am

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I'm still waiting on a vote. I have PMed the player to see if they are waiting for a reason.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:39 am

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All votes are in, been taking a mental health day, will resolve it tomorrow
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:57 pm

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ELECTION
JA (7/7)
- Formerfish, Egix96, OkaPoka, Vex Vience, NotMySpamAccount, dweller, Saladman27
NEIN (0/7)
-

A majority of players have voted JA, so the government of
President NotMySpamAccount
and
Chancellor Formerfish
have been successfully elected. The election tracker is reset to zero.

We have entered the legislative session. The president will draw 3 policies, discard one and give two to their Chancellor who will discard one and pass one.

Thread locked until a policy is passed or until (expired on 2019-10-19 12:00:00), with deadline leniency on the Chancellor if the president is late.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:42 am

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NotMySpamAccount
has requested replacement, will restart the deadline when I get one.

Sorry I've been so flakey the past few days. Depression sucks.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:39 pm

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Deadline reset to (expired on 2019-10-25 10:00:00)
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:06 pm

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A
Fascist
policy has been passed! This is the first policy so there is no executive action.



Session 6


Game State
Table Order
  1. Formerfish
  2. Egix96
  3. OkaPoka
  4. VexVience
  5. Datisi
  6. dweller
  7. Saladman27
Liberal Policy Tracker [2/5]: [#][#][ ][ ][!]

Fascist Policy Tracker [1/6]: [#][ ][ ][ ][ ][!]

Exectutive actions with 7 players are
[No power]
[Investigate Loyalty][Call Special Election][Execution][Execution+Veto Powers Unlocked][Fascists Win]

Election Tracker [0/3]: [
*
][ ][ ][
!
]


Cards in policy deck: 8

Cards in policy deck when last shuffled:
6 Liberal
and
11 Fascist


Previous Successfully Elected Government:
(Cannot become Chancellor due to term limits)

Datisi
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Formerfish
(C)

Confirmed Not Hitler:
(Has been successfully elected Chancellor after 3 Fascist policies have been passed)

No one



dweller
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The next game action is for the president to nominate their chancellor.
Datisi
and
Formerfish
are not possible choices due to term limits.

The deadline for the next legislative session is (expired on 2019-11-06 10:15:00).

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