Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Firebringer]

Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.

No result or no visit?

My brain went dead or short circuite
Wtf is this difference?

[Gamma Emerald]

Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.

No result or no visit?

My brain went dead or short circuite
Wtf is this difference?

Tells if the user is roleblocked or not.

[Jingle]

i would say you can just check the first post to see who died but you can't because it isn't updated

Currently, the only portions of the OP in need of updating are the Important Posts links and the replacements. I should have time to fix that today or tomorrow. I might add some more flavor while I'm at it!

[Cephrir]

idk it kiiinda sounds like im off the hook and can stop doing work

[Jingle]

Check the list of living players again, boarman.

[Cephrir]

oh shit yall have a ton of posts

ughhhhhh

[Cephrir]

Check the list of living players again, boarman.

damn

[Firebringer]

U can take a break Cephrir u did a lot so far

[Something_Smart]

It spoils immediately when the Town:scum ratio reaches (x+2):x." is objectively true.

I cannot specify what 'spoils' means in the context of this game.

There's only one thing it could reasonably mean.

I contend that if the fruit is usable now, he has stated something that he expected to be interpreted in a way that is incorrect, which is a lie, since lying is about intent and not about a literal correspondence between the words and the world (which doesn't exist anyway).

Ask anyone whether a fruit, once spoiled, can become unspoiled, and they'll tell you no, because that's part of our understanding of what it means for fruit to spoil. Pine knows this, and he chose his wording to produce that interpretation. If the fruit can unspoil, he lied, plain and simple.

[Cephrir]

that's a bad argument sry

[Jingle]

Again, I can say that he didn't lie. I can't say anything more.

[Firebringer]

It spoils immediately when the Town:scum ratio reaches (x+2):x." is objectively true.

I cannot specify what 'spoils' means in the context of this game.

There's only one thing it could reasonably mean.

I contend that if the fruit is usable now, he has stated something that he expected to be interpreted in a way that is incorrect, which is a lie, since lying is about intent and not about a literal correspondence between the words and the world (which doesn't exist anyway).

Ask anyone whether a fruit, once spoiled, can become unspoiled, and they'll tell you no, because that's part of our understanding of what it means for fruit to spoil. Pine knows this, and he chose his wording to produce that interpretation. If the fruit can unspoil, he lied, plain and simple.

Moon logic of the highest caliber

[Something_Smart]

Again, I can say that he didn't lie. I can't say anything more.

Can you say how you're defining "lie"?

[Pink Ball]

Hey guys, I don't know if you have heard about it, but it has been some rough days here in my country. Haven't read anything going on but I hope to be able to help as soon as possible. I have some spare time right now since my workplace released us early because of the protests so I'll catch up.

Who died? I tracked Maria and I got no result.

no one I doc'd the worst

And what happened with Dunn?? I thought you were lying about healing your masons once and you would doc him tonight!

@the worst hmu when you can 'cause if you're confirmed town now I'm no longer holding back my read on you. I thought you were an investigative and had an inno on Gamma; that would explain the softing that pops did on you and your wishy washy read on Gamma, and that's why I pulled you and him out of my PoE, and that made me think that you were roleblocked the night I tracked you. Please, confirm or deny this, 'cause I think Gamma is scum if you don't have an inno on him.

[Alisae]

Dunn didn't use the fruit

[Something_Smart]

Moon logic of the highest caliber

To be fair, my opinion of this game is already in the toilet, so I'd be lying if I said I expected Jingle to listen to my argument.

(Or would I be lying? Who knows. Not Jingle, I bet.)

[Cephrir]

that made me think that you were roleblocked the night I tracked you.

i don't think that is how trackers work?

[Pink Ball]

Dunn didn't use the fruit

Well, no one wins, no one lose, that's ok. I thought your masterplan was protecting him, I was so excited

[Pink Ball]

that made me think that you were roleblocked the night I tracked you.

i don't think that is how trackers work?

What do you mean? If the worst was roleblocked, he couldn't visit anyone

[Alisae]

Dunn didn't use the fruit

Well, no one wins, no one lose, that's ok. I thought your masterplan was protecting him, I was so excited

I am weirded out by your wording because thats the exact same wording I used when I was talking to Pine during the night phase.

[Firebringer]

Dunn didn't use the fruit

Well, no one wins, no one lose, that's ok. I thought your masterplan was protecting him, I was so excited

I am weirded out by your wording because thats the exact same wording I used when I was talking to Pine during the night phase.

Ok?

[Alisae]

but at the same time if you really thought that and was scum then you probably would have shot SS and SS isn't exactly dead

[Alisae]

in fact he's pretty much very so alive.

[Something_Smart]

I'm arguing with the mod about philosophy of language, I've never felt more alive this game

[Jingle]

Any statement including an objective falsehood, with the exception of lies of omission (which are explicitly allowed by the OP).

For example, I can't verify the truth of "You don't have to worry about fruit X anymore" because I don't know if worrying about any fruit will have a net positive or negative effect on the town. I can't verify statements like "I never felt like using it" because I don't know Pine's inner thoughts and he COULD be telling the truth. If Pine were to say "The Governor fruit will give the ability to speak perfect Mandarin IRL" I could then give the exact wording of the Governor fruit's abilities as described in the scum PT, as that is an untrue statement. (I hope no one considers confirming that Pine's fruit can't magically affect you IRL a modslip.) I can specify a statement is true or unverifiable, and the statement that the fruit spoils under the specified conditions is both verifiable and objectively true.

Until or unless he does lie, I can't give out any information about the fruit and their abilities.