Micro 895: Think Twice (Thanks for Playing!)

[tris]

oh menalque, i forget what game we were in together

[tris]

@menalque i'm townreading ethos for more than his read progression on me. i'd say that's a small part of the read. he keeps again and again making making posts that i feel are towny. i'll make a list

[Menalque]

We were in haunted village together

I haven’t made my mind up about Eth0s meltdown there yet but I’m glad he’s taking a break from the thread for a hot second either way

[Menalque]

Like I think I SR page 19 eth0s but I actually kind of TR page 20 Eth0s

Idk if I had to choose now I think tris is more likely town of the two of you

But yeah I wanna read both your ISOs before I make a decision

[Menalque]

Also it would be good if you could make that list tris bc either you’re wrong or you’re pocketing him here and have been playing a fuckin a + game

[Chemist1422]

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Elements (3)

- Sa̶u͏d͡a͝de҉, Menalque, tris

Menalque (1)

- Elements

Not Voting (1) - eth0s

With 5 users alive, majority is 3.

Day 2 will end NOW

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[Chemist1422]

> ̻̤̺͇S͈c͚̤̹̗̫̠a̜̠̹̻̺n̞̻̳n̫i͚̗n̺͕̰̗̟̯g̗̠ ̰͉̜͔̘͔u̞͖̮s̭̥̣̙̘̦e̟r̰̦̮ͅ ̞"͈̘̬̙̭̟̱E̮͙͔̥̺͎̜l̠̺ͅeme̜̮͈̙̝̣ͅn̻͔̙t̞̥̱̮s".̩ͅ.̘̩͔̟.
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> ̠̭̳͍̳..͉̘̙̜̥ͅͅ.͙̬̗̯
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Elements

was eliminated! He was a

Mafia Goon!

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[Chemist1422]

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Not Voting (3) - eth0s, tris, Menalque

With 3 users alive, majority is 2.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2019-11-08 19:35:00)

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[eth0s]

From what I read last pages eth0s was town'ing it up against Elem and Saudade was like "who should I vote??", now he gets hammered and say that is quicklynching Elem tomorrow.

I can't see it other way than goon!Saudade/ Godfather!Elements here

They were getting PoE'ed by us therefore they made this theater.

I can be wrong but I don't think so

This still doesn't make any sense.

Like I know the slot has been replaced but there's no way the godfather would make that play. There's so many reasons that it is wrong. This line of thinking simply doesn't add up with Volpe's earlier logic

[tris]

We were in haunted village together

oh right. you were in a hydra there

[eth0s]

scum!Volpe:

Sets a precedence of "anyone who quickhammers should in turn be powerlynched immediately"

Knows that Saudade is going to flip town

Disregards the fact that she believes a quickhammerer should expect to be powerlynched to project a fake gf read for said hammerer (and scummate, elements)

Probably suggests to him via PT to change votes to Saudade when he originally voted me

Lines up elements to be lynched next to keep suspicions off of her (because she supposedly thinks saudade is scum and elements is gf, so she has to be clueless, right?)

Bold = the slip in her logic
Italics = speculation on my part

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Now that's what I call "clearly been setting the game up a v certain way since D1", (-Mena, to me), what do you guys think?

I think mena can't map out a thought process of scum!mine that makes even remotely as much sense as this does from scum!volpe.

[eth0s]

saudade gun to your head what's the scummiest post so far?

its the guy who posted intent to hammer and nothing else at all

tbh if you're scum I'm speedlynching that slot probably

this is probably why volpe had to make such a shitty townread on me when she and elements decided ele was gonna hammer saudade

Saudade/eth0s look either SvS or TvT but not much likely SvT or TvS

Doesn't this imply that it's either me/elements or Saudade/ethos fypov?

yeah that's why I want to flip Saudade?

But I also am saying that/pushing that to see how people are gonna react therefore it's not only his flip but also how his wagon is gonna develop

i don't really see why one of them can't be scum without the other.

volpe never elaborates after 236

[eth0s]

See what I said about bad-faith?

Instead of engaging me on why

Saudade is just on aggro mode

tris engaged her. She still didn't explain it.

[eth0s]

saudade gun to your head what's the scummiest post so far?

its the guy who posted intent to hammer and nothing else at all

tbh if you're scum I'm speedlynching that slot probably

this is probably why volpe had to make such a shitty townread on me when she and elements decided ele was gonna hammer saudade

hahaahah I just noticed this

See what I said about bad-faith?

Instead of engaging me on why Saudade is just on aggro mode

Gun to my head he is godfather and to be honest regardless of Saudade flip eh0s reaction makes me lean town.

VOTE: Saudade

I think eth0s apparently completely ignoring my post is more makes him townier than tris to be fair

Idk

literally back to back posts

[eth0s]

From what I read last pages eth0s was town'ing it up against Elem and Saudade was like "who should I vote??", now he gets hammered and say that is quicklynching Elem tomorrow.

I can't see it other way than goon!Saudade/ Godfather!Elements here

They were getting PoE'ed by us therefore they made this theater.

I can be wrong but I don't think so

If saudade is town I think chances of Elem being GF are pretty good because I don't see that hammer coming from a goon too often

Like, he wasn't getting that much heat yet to hammer like that when if goon he would be expendable

/shrug

I think this game is won either way to be fair

wait what. so if saudade is town or scum.... that somehow makes elements GF here. And this is coming from the person advocating for powerlynching a quickhammerer... right

[eth0s]

Like why do I need a plan for post flip? It's an awkward question. Especially in this setup

If you have no thoughts whatsoever about what happens when one of them flips, you saying one of them should flip is an un-grounded statement and it's basically a random lynch. You're better then that. At this point we want the flip that gives us the most information whatever they are given if town they don't die until the next lynch so can help out. Just by saying you want one of them to flip implies you think they give the most information upon flipping, so why you'd deny this I don't know or understand.
VOTE: eth0s

I think my townlean on ethos was right

Saudade why would you unvote me here?

V/LA during next week.

Expect less activity although I feel a bit apathetic in this game.

Right now I'm pretty good with my TR on eth0s and somewhat ok with my town lean on tris

I'm fine with a lynch on any of the other two

This game needs some spice.
VOTE: saudade

yeah these 4 consecutive posts look very natural to me

[eth0s]

definitely no shenanigans going on there

[eth0s]

If you're town eth0s, we assume that it's goon!Elem, from my pov it can only be tris.

Do you think I've been less towny than tris?

I've not felt enthusiastic in this game

, it's slow and in hindsight too small, therefore my alignment may not be that clear for you, but I think you should reconsider that read considerably hard looking at my ISO

where? this is the most active poster at this point in the game LOL

[tris]

I guess as far as specific posts it was mostly just these two.

I know elements is V/LA but this day should NOT end until he comes back and gives some input on what's going on.

And I don't mean a line or two I want to see specifically what he agrees with, what he disagrees with, and original opinions he has formed from the last couple of days of discussion.

Mena you're picking the wrong person to try and mislynch here

I mean that in a purely factual way, not like an egotistical I cannot be lynched way

I thought there were more that stood out to me. but, i think in general his progression through the game seemed natural. i'll see if i can come up with some questions about specific parts. another thing is, i don't see why elements would need to ensure saudade gets lynched if ethos is gf. people were saying they townread ethos.

Pedit: time to read what ethos is posting there

[eth0s]

when I feel like I need to be town read no matter what I link you the game

my scum vs town play is really day/night

I think I don't need meta to be obvtown though

when does this happen

Last post.

If you want an example of when town!me and also replacing out because I felt unmotivated/disengaged in the game

I really can't keep up with slow games, I thought this was gonna be more marathon style. Sorry.

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=77564

I'm "Nibbui" in that game.

This is also very natural and makes sense to leave a "slow game" right as someone is trying to engage with you over many things. Totally normal behavior.

[tris]

@ethos how would you say your read has progressed on me after i interrogated you about?

[tris]

@menalque could you give a summery of your case on ethos? it hasn't made sense to me.

[eth0s]

@ethos how would you say your read has progressed on me after i interrogated you about?

You have been my weakest read the entire game. I still think there's a chance you're sitting back and letting the town destroy itself. I think that the way you approached hammering elements was very cautious and I don't really care for the fact that you were eager to ask questions at one point but not wanting to catch up with the game or engage saudade or anyone else before just laying the hammer down. Aside from what little of your meta I know (which is only from one game and you were scum) I felt the questioning and perceived motivation behind it this game seemed very similar to our last one.

The best "plan" I can find for scum!you is basically just sitting back during the majority of the arguments and trying to make it obvious that you don't really care what's being discussed (TSTBS I guess). And that kind of motivation I find comes from lazy/disengaged town a lot too.

Your interactions with elements don't look like they come from scummates if I recall correctly.

I think if volpe had made more obviously-town game progression then I would be much more skeptical of you due to PoE but I literally don't understand how volpe's play comes from town.

[Menalque]

@menalque could you give a summery of your case on ethos? it hasn't made sense to me.

that's bc I haven't cased him yet

that was just a catch up

[Menalque]

I don't really have time to hard sort this tonight but I might tomorrow afternoon

good to see that your "yeah, I'm gonna go reevaluate the game" was literally just "I'm gonna go case your predecessor" eth0s

that's cool of u