Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[Aristophanes]

Lmao everyone claimed VT XD

Obv the scum are in there somewhere.

Ico, does the "simple" modifier say it only works on vanilla roles or on VT specifically?

[teacher]

So given "normal" normal set-ups, I am very inclined to believe that the three claimed town PRs are in fact town.

I do not believe either of the protective targets can be considered cleared, given the potential conflict even if both are town.

Anyone disagree?

[skitter30]

Umm I made a mistake
VOTE: RCE
this is superior to Math

do tell

[skitter30]

So given "normal" normal set-ups, I am very inclined to believe that the three claimed town PRs are in fact town.

I do not believe either of the protective targets can be considered cleared, given the potential conflict even if both are town.

Anyone disagree?

this is roughly where i'm at

[Aristophanes]

So given "normal" normal set-ups, I am very inclined to believe that the three claimed town PRs are in fact town.

I do not believe either of the protective targets can be considered cleared, given the potential conflict even if both are town.

Anyone disagree?

this is roughly where i'm at

Nth

[skitter30]

teacher what do u think about math ?

[teacher]

Spoiler: colored VCs

VOTE COUNT

1.1
teacher (2):

the worst

, skitter30
skitter30 (1):

tris

Plum (1): MathBlade

Not voting (9): RCEnigma, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.2
Plum (2): MathBlade, skitter30
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

teacher (1):

the worst

tris

(1): Aristophanes

Not voting (7): RCEnigma,

iconeum

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.3

tris

(2): Aristophanes, MathBlade
Plum (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

MathBlade (1):

tris

teacher (1):

the worst

Not voting (7): RCEnigma,

iconeum

,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher, Plum

VOTE COUNT

1.4
Aristophanes (4): Plum,

radiantCowbells

,

the worst

, MathBlade
Plum (2): skitter30,

iconeum

tris

(1): Aristophanes
MathBlade (1):

tris

Not voting (5): RCEnigma,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.5
Aristophanes (2): Plum, MathBlade
skitter30 (2):

Bellaphant

,

the worst

tris

(1): Aristophanes
MathBlade (1):

tris

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

iconeum

(1): skitter30

Not voting (5): RCEnigma, Thilbert,

iconeum

, teacher,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

1.6
skitter30 (2):

Bellaphant

,

the worst

Aristophanes (2): Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm, skitter30
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

tris

(1): Aristophanes
Xtoxm (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (3): Thilbert,

iconeum

, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.7
MathBlade (3):

tris

,

Bellaphant

, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): Plum, MathBlade,

the worst

Bellaphant

(2): teacher, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

tris

(1): Aristophanes
Xtoxm (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (2):

iconeum

,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

1.8
Flopz (5): MathBlade, Plum,

the worst

, RCEnigma,

iconeum

MathBlade (2):

tris

,

Bellaphant

Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

Bellaphant

(1): teacher

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

tris

(1): Aristophanes

Not voting (1): skitter30

VOTE COUNT

1.9
Flopz (3): MathBlade, Plum, RCEnigma
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

Bellaphant

Bellaphant

(2): teacher,

the worst

tris

(2): Aristophanes,

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (2): Flopz

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm
Xtoxm (1):

iconeum

Not voting (1): skitter30

VOTE COUNT

1.10

tris

(3): Aristophanes, skitter30, Plum
Flopz (2): RCEnigma,

Bellaphant

Xtoxm (2):

iconeum

, teacher

Bellaphant

(2):

the worst

, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

MathBlade (1):

tris

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

VOTE COUNT

1.11

tris

(3): Aristophanes, skitter30, Plum
Xtoxm (3):

iconeum

, teacher, MathBlade
Flopz (2): RCEnigma,

Bellaphant

Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

MathBlade (1):

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.12
Aristophanes (4): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, MathBlade
Xtoxm (2):

iconeum

, teacher

tris

(2): Aristophanes, Plum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Flopz (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.13
Aristophanes (4): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, MathBlade
Flopz (3): RCEnigma, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Xtoxm (1): teacher

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.14
Aristophanes (5): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, MathBlade, teacher,

iconeum

Flopz (2): RCEnigma, Aristophanes

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

tris

(1): Plum
teacher (1): skitter30

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.15
Aristophanes (4): Flopz, MathBlade, teacher, RCEnigma

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

teacher (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

tris

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.16
Aristophanes (3): MathBlade, teacher, RCEnigma

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

the worst

(1):

tris

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Flopz

VOTE COUNT

1.17
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, teacher, Flopz, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

the worst

(2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1): RCEnigma
Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.18
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, teacher, Flopz, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(3): Xtoxm,

the worst

, Aristophanes

the worst

(2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1): RCEnigma

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.19

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(3): Xtoxm,

the worst

, Aristophanes
Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz
Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.20

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz
Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.21

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.22

the worst

(6):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): teacher,

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.23 (FINAL)

the worst

(7):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz, teacher
Aristophanes (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.1
Plum (3):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes
Aristophanes (2):

iconeum

, MathBlade

Not voting (7): RCEnigma,

tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Flopz, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.2
Aristophanes (3):

iconeum

, MathBlade, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1): Aristophanes

Not voting (6): RCEnigma,

tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.3
Aristophanes (4):

iconeum

, MathBlade, Flopz, teacher

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30, RCEnigma
RCEnigma (1):

radiantCowbells

Not voting (5):

tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.4
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, Flopz, teacher,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30, RCEnigma
RCEnigma (1):

radiantCowbells

Not voting (5):

saudade

, shos,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.5
Aristophanes (3): Flopz, teacher,

iconeum

shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

radiantCowbells

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
skitter30 (1): MathBlade

Not voting (4): shos,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

saudade

VOTE COUNT

2.6
skitter30 (4): MathBlade,

iconeum

,

saudade

, Xtoxm
shos (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (2): Flopz, teacher

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
MathBlade (1): Aristophanes

Not voting (2): shos,

Bellaphant

VOTE COUNT

2.7
shos (3): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Aristophanes

radiantCowbells

(3): RCEnigma,

iconeum

, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): Flopz, teacher
skitter30 (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (3): shos,

Bellaphant

,

saudade

VOTE COUNT

2.8
shos (5): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, RCEnigma, teacher

radiantCowbells

(2): MathBlade,

saudade

Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

2.9
shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

, RCEnigma
Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (4):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.10
shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

, RCEnigma
MathBlade (1):

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.11
shos (4): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

, RCEnigma

iconeum

(1): shos

saudade

(1):

radiantCowbells

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.12

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3):

saudade

, RCEnigma, MathBlade
shos (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.13

saudade

(5):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(3):

saudade

, RCEnigma, MathBlade
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.14

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2):

saudade

, RCEnigma
RCEnigma (2): Flopz, MathBlade
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.15

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes, Flopz
shos (2):

iconeum

, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
Xtoxm (1): shos
Aristophanes (1):

saudade

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.16 (FINAL)

saudade

(7): skitter30, Aristophanes, Flopz,

iconeum

, teacher,

radiantCowbells

,

saudade

shos (1): MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm

Simply for what they are worth, since I use them too. It kinda confirms my desire to be focusing on Ari/Shos today, so dont know what people are up to rn, other than Math who is exploring the dark side of the moon.

[teacher]

teacher what do u think about math ?

I see your problems, but I also see a super consistent mindset. I think its town, and regardless dont think either it or RCE are todays lynch (I think we learn more about both's deepwolf potential by how they each position themselves around the wagons).

[teacher]

VC 1.14 and 1.22 (knowing Im green) make me particularly want to hit Ari, as do the D1 Tris associatives. How are you feeling about your meta case?

[Aristophanes]

Spoiler: colored VCs

VOTE COUNT

1.1
teacher (2):

the worst

, skitter30
skitter30 (1):

tris

Plum (1): MathBlade

Not voting (9): RCEnigma, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.2
Plum (2): MathBlade, skitter30
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

teacher (1):

the worst

tris

(1): Aristophanes

Not voting (7): RCEnigma,

iconeum

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.3

tris

(2): Aristophanes, MathBlade
Plum (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

MathBlade (1):

tris

teacher (1):

the worst

Not voting (7): RCEnigma,

iconeum

,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher, Plum

VOTE COUNT

1.4
Aristophanes (4): Plum,

radiantCowbells

,

the worst

, MathBlade
Plum (2): skitter30,

iconeum

tris

(1): Aristophanes
MathBlade (1):

tris

Not voting (5): RCEnigma,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Thilbert, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.5
Aristophanes (2): Plum, MathBlade
skitter30 (2):

Bellaphant

,

the worst

tris

(1): Aristophanes
MathBlade (1):

tris

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

iconeum

(1): skitter30

Not voting (5): RCEnigma, Thilbert,

iconeum

, teacher,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

1.6
skitter30 (2):

Bellaphant

,

the worst

Aristophanes (2): Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm, skitter30
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

tris

(1): Aristophanes
Xtoxm (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (3): Thilbert,

iconeum

, teacher

VOTE COUNT

1.7
MathBlade (3):

tris

,

Bellaphant

, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): Plum, MathBlade,

the worst

Bellaphant

(2): teacher, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

tris

(1): Aristophanes
Xtoxm (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (2):

iconeum

,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

1.8
Flopz (5): MathBlade, Plum,

the worst

, RCEnigma,

iconeum

MathBlade (2):

tris

,

Bellaphant

Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

Bellaphant

(1): teacher

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

tris

(1): Aristophanes

Not voting (1): skitter30

VOTE COUNT

1.9
Flopz (3): MathBlade, Plum, RCEnigma
MathBlade (2):

tris

,

Bellaphant

Bellaphant

(2): teacher,

the worst

tris

(2): Aristophanes,

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (2): Flopz

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm
Xtoxm (1):

iconeum

Not voting (1): skitter30

VOTE COUNT

1.10

tris

(3): Aristophanes, skitter30, Plum
Flopz (2): RCEnigma,

Bellaphant

Xtoxm (2):

iconeum

, teacher

Bellaphant

(2):

the worst

, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

MathBlade (1):

tris

radiantCowbells

(1): Xtoxm

VOTE COUNT

1.11

tris

(3): Aristophanes, skitter30, Plum
Xtoxm (3):

iconeum

, teacher, MathBlade
Flopz (2): RCEnigma,

Bellaphant

Aristophanes (2): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

MathBlade (1):

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.12
Aristophanes (4): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, MathBlade
Xtoxm (2):

iconeum

, teacher

tris

(2): Aristophanes, Plum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Flopz (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.13
Aristophanes (4): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, MathBlade
Flopz (3): RCEnigma, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Xtoxm (1): teacher

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.14
Aristophanes (5): Flopz,

radiantCowbells

, MathBlade, teacher,

iconeum

Flopz (2): RCEnigma, Aristophanes

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

tris

(1): Plum
teacher (1): skitter30

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

tris

VOTE COUNT

1.15
Aristophanes (4): Flopz, MathBlade, teacher, RCEnigma

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

teacher (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

tris

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.16
Aristophanes (3): MathBlade, teacher, RCEnigma

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

the worst

(1):

tris

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Flopz

VOTE COUNT

1.17
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, teacher, Flopz, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

the worst

(2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1): RCEnigma
Flopz (1): Aristophanes

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.18
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, teacher, Flopz, skitter30

radiantCowbells

(3): Xtoxm,

the worst

, Aristophanes

the worst

(2):

tris

,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1): RCEnigma

tris

(1): Plum

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.19

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(3): Xtoxm,

the worst

, Aristophanes
Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz
Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

VOTE COUNT

1.20

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz
Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.21

the worst

(5):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): teacher, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.22

the worst

(6):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): teacher,

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

1.23 (FINAL)

the worst

(7):

tris

, skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz, teacher
Aristophanes (2):

Bellaphant

,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): Xtoxm,

the worst

Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.1
Plum (3):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes
Aristophanes (2):

iconeum

, MathBlade

Not voting (7): RCEnigma,

tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Flopz, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.2
Aristophanes (3):

iconeum

, MathBlade, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Plum (1): Aristophanes

Not voting (6): RCEnigma,

tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.3
Aristophanes (4):

iconeum

, MathBlade, Flopz, teacher

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30, RCEnigma
RCEnigma (1):

radiantCowbells

Not voting (5):

tris

, Plum,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.4
Aristophanes (4): MathBlade, Flopz, teacher,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2): skitter30, RCEnigma
RCEnigma (1):

radiantCowbells

Not voting (5):

saudade

, shos,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, Aristophanes

VOTE COUNT

2.5
Aristophanes (3): Flopz, teacher,

iconeum

shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

radiantCowbells

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
skitter30 (1): MathBlade

Not voting (4): shos,

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

saudade

VOTE COUNT

2.6
skitter30 (4): MathBlade,

iconeum

,

saudade

, Xtoxm
shos (2): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (2): Flopz, teacher

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
MathBlade (1): Aristophanes

Not voting (2): shos,

Bellaphant

VOTE COUNT

2.7
shos (3): skitter30,

radiantCowbells

, Aristophanes

radiantCowbells

(3): RCEnigma,

iconeum

, MathBlade
Aristophanes (2): Flopz, teacher
skitter30 (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (3): shos,

Bellaphant

,

saudade

VOTE COUNT

2.8
shos (5): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, RCEnigma, teacher

radiantCowbells

(2): MathBlade,

saudade

Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

VOTE COUNT

2.9
shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

, RCEnigma
Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (4):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm,

radiantCowbells

, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.10
shos (3): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

, RCEnigma
MathBlade (1):

radiantCowbells

Aristophanes (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.11
shos (4): skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(3): MathBlade,

saudade

, RCEnigma

iconeum

(1): shos

saudade

(1):

radiantCowbells

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.12

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(3):

saudade

, RCEnigma, MathBlade
shos (1): Flopz

iconeum

(1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.13

saudade

(5):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

, Flopz

radiantCowbells

(3):

saudade

, RCEnigma, MathBlade
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.14

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes,

iconeum

radiantCowbells

(2):

saudade

, RCEnigma
RCEnigma (2): Flopz, MathBlade
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.15

saudade

(4):

radiantCowbells

, skitter30, Aristophanes, Flopz
shos (2):

iconeum

, MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
Xtoxm (1): shos
Aristophanes (1):

saudade

Not voting (3):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm, teacher

VOTE COUNT

2.16 (FINAL)

saudade

(7): skitter30, Aristophanes, Flopz,

iconeum

, teacher,

radiantCowbells

,

saudade

shos (1): MathBlade

radiantCowbells

(1): RCEnigma
Xtoxm (1): shos

Not voting (2):

Bellaphant

, Xtoxm

Simply for what they are worth, since I use them too. It kinda confirms my desire to be focusing on Ari/Shos today, so dont know what people are up to rn, other than Math who is exploring the dark side of the moon.

Uhm as nice as this is I'd prefer unflipped PRs be maybe blue or something becaus ethey are not conftown/flipped town and should not be coloured as such.

That said, I love VCA and Imma see what I can do!

[skitter30]

teacher what do u think about math ?

I see your problems, but I also see a super consistent mindset. I think its town, and regardless dont think either it or RCE are todays lynch (I think we learn more about both's deepwolf potential by how they each position themselves around the wagons).

i don't see the super consistent mindset, i see him making up more things that don't make sense as people point out that what he's saying is kinda silly

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.14 and 1.22 (knowing Im green) make me particularly want to hit Ari, as do the D1 Tris associatives. How are you feeling about your meta case?

Why these in particular out of curiosity??

[skitter30]

VOTE COUNT 1.22
the worst (6): tris, skitter30, radiantCowbells, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): teacher, Bellaphant, iconeum
radiantCowbells (2): Xtoxm, the worst
Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

is this basically the same argument you made in the open?
i'm p sure that was you but could you just refresh my memory what the context was?

i still think ari is town
i don't see myself lynching there today

[teacher]

teacher what do u think about math ?

I see your problems, but I also see a super consistent mindset. I think its town, and regardless dont think either it or RCE are todays lynch (I think we learn more about both's deepwolf potential by how they each position themselves around the wagons).

i don't see the super consistent mindset, i see him making up more things that don't make sense as people point out that what he's saying is kinda silly

I see an uber technical approach to language and looking for silly slips rather than holistic analysis. I see getting consistently caught in the rabbit hole of possibilities rather than thinking through what is probable.

(Ordinarily Id consider the latter to be a scum-tell, courtesy of mastina, but here it just somehow feels like true (though truly outrageous) paranoia).

[skitter30]

I see an uber technical approach to language and looking for silly slips rather than holistic analysis. I see getting consistently caught in the rabbit hole of possibilities rather than thinking through what is probable.

ya so incidentally i think that these are behaviors that are more likely to come from scum then town
it doesn't really seem genuine to me, his scumteam theories are kinda ridiculous and are getting worse as time goes on and i'm having a hard time believing that he's sincere

[teacher]

VOTE COUNT 1.22
the worst (6): tris, skitter30, radiantCowbells, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz
Aristophanes (3): teacher, Bellaphant, iconeum
radiantCowbells (2): Xtoxm, the worst
Plum (1): RCEnigma

Not voting (1): Aristophanes

is this basically the same argument you made in the open?
i'm p sure that was you but could you just refresh my memory what the context was?

i still think ari is town
i don't see myself lynching there today

The open? (not sure what you mean here -- are you asking about the tris associatives?

Context - 1.22 was the wrapping of the day, as I tried to derail the RC/TW 1v1 onto an alternate target. I was actually more interested in 1.14, as well as the mid-day 2 VCs, where I see all town (claimed PRs) or my own personal heavy town-reads on Ari. 1.22 is just another example where I see an all-town counterwagon to a townlynch.

I think he is not the same alignment as math (in part due to Math's presence there early D2). Thus I think his flip provides guidance either way.

[teacher]

I see an uber technical approach to language and looking for silly slips rather than holistic analysis. I see getting consistently caught in the rabbit hole of possibilities rather than thinking through what is probable.

ya so incidentally i think that these are behaviors that are more likely to come from scum then town
it doesn't really seem genuine to me, his scumteam theories are kinda ridiculous and are getting worse as time goes on and i'm having a hard time believing that he's sincere

Ya, that might be a bit of it too. I almost feel like a nervous breakdown coming through the screen. Too scummy to be scum. Like the theories are just ridiculous and laughable, but then why be so moonshotty?

Bottom line, Im not going to stop the consensus if that's where its heading, and would even join it if needed. But I dont think its the best target for today, and certainly not the early day, since the slot is going to participate and react regardless.

[teacher]

VC 1.14 and 1.22 (knowing Im green) make me particularly want to hit Ari, as do the D1 Tris associatives. How are you feeling about your meta case?

Why these in particular out of curiosity??

The wagon on you is pretty heavily town to me at those points - like nearly universally, or with one potential scum so if you flipped town Id find it helpful.

[skitter30]

VC 1.17

teacher (4):

Volpe14

, NorwegianboyEE,

DrDolittle, Almost50

Wooper (3):

northsidegal, Wickedestjr, teacher

Bingle (3):

Wooper, skitter30, Egix96

skitter30 (2):

Bingle, pisskop

Almost50 (1):

Menalque

VC 1.20 (FINAL)

Bingle (7) LYNCH:

skitter30, Egix96,

DrDolittle, Volpe14, Almost50,

Wooper, pisskop

Wooper (4):

northsidegal, Wickedestjr, teacher, Bingle

Almost50 (1):

Menalque

Egix96 (1):

NorwegianboyEE

Like I dont see how this flip isnt town-indicative for me, yet nobody has done that kind of VCA. Then it makes me go back to the wooper wagon, and see two known!town (+me) on it, and that makes me think scum. I genuinely just dont see that kind of depth of analysis from Volpe, who certainly has been putting the time in -- so it makes me wonder if it is misspent.

PEDIT: On the both sides scum, thats a gut read. I think town was very successfully divided yesterday, with multiple potential deepwolves setting up as alternates. Re Egix, Im lazy deadsheeping and not worrying about them today.

iirc you were arguing here that wooper was scummy since from your pov nsg, teacher, wicked, bingle were all town

and wooper was town

so if that's where you're going again i'm not sure this argument has much merit

[skitter30]

actually wicked hadn't flipped yet, whatever

my point remains

[skitter30]

VC 1.14 and 1.22 (knowing Im green) make me particularly want to hit Ari, as do the D1 Tris associatives. How are you feeling about your meta case?

i'm not sure i see the significance of 1.14
the mid-day2 make shos look sus because saudade is on a cw? is that what you're arguing ?

[Aristophanes]

VC 1.14 and 1.22 (knowing Im green) make me particularly want to hit Ari, as do the D1 Tris associatives. How are you feeling about your meta case?

Why these in particular out of curiosity??

The wagon on you is pretty heavily town to me at those points - like nearly universally, or with one potential scum so if you flipped town Id find it helpful.

Gotcha!

I thought it had to do with my own vote placement so that is an interesting take!

I also think the wagons were mostly town on me at those points, but I also know they were merely misguided so *shrugs*

Also this read of not like aligned with Math, does that mean you are confident one of us is scum or??

[teacher]

actually wicked hadn't flipped yet, whatever

my point remains

And so does mine. If we had flipped town!Wooper at that point, it would have conf!scummed Wicked, especially upon my death.

Likewise, flip town!ari here, and to me it conf!scums Math in 1.14 and the Day 2 VCs.

[skitter30]

I see an uber technical approach to language and looking for silly slips rather than holistic analysis. I see getting consistently caught in the rabbit hole of possibilities rather than thinking through what is probable.

ya so incidentally i think that these are behaviors that are more likely to come from scum then town
it doesn't really seem genuine to me, his scumteam theories are kinda ridiculous and are getting worse as time goes on and i'm having a hard time believing that he's sincere

Ya, that might be a bit of it too. I almost feel like a nervous breakdown coming through the screen. Too scummy to be scum. Like the theories are just ridiculous and laughable, but then why be so moonshotty?

Bottom line, Im not going to stop the consensus if that's where its heading, and would even join it if needed. But I dont think its the best target for today, and certainly not the early day, since the slot is going to participate and react regardless.

idk i kinda dropped my math sr mostly becuase of the protection thing yesterday
and i think his posting today has been p bad and the sr came back

i feel like he's just throwing whatever sticks

[skitter30]

there's really no way i'd lynch ari to sort math, sorry