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[davesaz]

Has it really been 20 hours since anyone posted?
Has anyone else abstained from their neighborhood vote? Important info. Could explain fb.

[Ankamius]

it's quite amazing how easily my interest in this game fades

[Firebringer]

it's quite amazing how easily my interest in this game fades

is it tho

[Gammagooey]

it's quite amazing how easily my interest in this game fades

is it tho

no

I think DEB is similar here to D&D where he was cult leader.
VOTE: DEB

you should know that literally no-one is going to deep-dive him in a 500 page game for you

why/in what way is he similar
DETAILS man

[davesaz]

Saying and doing nothing.

[Almost50]

Has it really been 20 hours since anyone posted?
Has anyone else abstained from their neighborhood vote? Important info. Could explain fb.

I obviously did, but our hood was RB'd anyway, so I didn't//don't think you were asking me/Ank.

[Almost50]

I think DEB is similar here to D&D where he was cult leader.
VOTE: DEB

you should know that literally no-one is going to deep-dive him in a 500 page game for you

why/in what way is he similar
DETAILS man

I can confirm what dave is saying, as I was in that game. However, I can't read DEB. I've seen him hyper-shitpost and I've seen him lurk more than that evil something from the opening line of MJ's Thriller, and I can't tell if it's AI tbh.

[davesaz]

Has it really been 20 hours since anyone posted?
Has anyone else abstained from their neighborhood vote? Important info. Could explain fb.

I obviously did, but our hood was RB'd anyway, so I didn't//don't think you were asking me/Ank.

How about n1? Trying to see if maybe something triggers a negative effect on hoods in general without requiring an action.
If we believe the start of d2 reveal about the writers and FB's n3 ouster are scum active powers then it seems scum have individual or group powers that are lacking in town, which speaks to game design. If those events are somehow triggered without an action (individual or group) then the design balance is different.

[EspressoPatronum]

In my massclaim, I said the lightning rod is X-shot. FL and I specifically talked about doing this in our hood to make it seem stronger + thus more of a threat to scum.

MASSCLAIM:
Hood: Leading Actors
Members: EP, FL, X Elements
Power: Doctor
LMS: X-shot lightning rod

So, @Ank, how did you know it was a 1-shot

before

anyone in the thread mentioned it?

RED ALERT

Please finish the massclaim:

Almost50 - Ankamius - Chennisden

- Vote Remove / Vigilante

Elements - EspressoPatronum - Flavor Leaf

- Doctor / 1shot Lightning Rod

Firebringer - nomnomnom - Volpe14

- Commuter / Vengeful

Kuribo - MariaR - Panthaleon

- Roleblocker / ???

Dr Easy Bake - Gammagooey - Volxen

- ??? / ???

Davesaz - Deasvail - Farkran

- Inventor / ???

Basically everything is out already so there's no reason to just leave the rest unclaimed

(this message from EC)

[Ankamius]

Because I'm scum with FL, duhhhhhhhhhhhh

[EspressoPatronum]

Detective EP solves another case!

And for dramatic effect....

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Ank

[Ankamius]

Ok for real idk, either you slipped it somewhere that ec caught or it made the most intuitive sense and he assumed it

[Flavor Leaf]

Uhhh...i cant remember if I said in game thread if it was 1-shot, but EP and I definitely talked about that.

This gets especially weird because now I’m a little paranoid of EP/Ank because of that and Ank posted that to try and tie me to her

[Ankamius]

I'd hope that anybody who has any experience playing with me recently would immediately be able to tell that's a joke

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, it’s obviously a joke. The question is if you’re making the joke as scum or if you’re making the joke as town.

If you’re scum, then it’s definitely gonna get tied back to me after you flip, and that’s just annoying.

[Ankamius]

Anyone who even thinks its possible we're scumpartners are high in general

Or just are paying zero attention!!!

[Flavor Leaf]

See, it’s things like that if you’re flipped and you’re scum, I’m fucked.

[Gammagooey]

fuckin' lazy mods not bothering to do votecounts whenever the game is actually active and needs them
current votecount:

Ankamius (3): EspressoPatronum, MariaR, kuribo
nomnomnom (2): Gammagooey, DEB
Dr Easy Bake (2): panthaleon, davesaz
panth (2): nomnomnom, Flavor Leaf
Flavor Leaf (1): Firebringer


Not Voting (2): Almost50, Ankamius

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is 2/16 at 11:59PM Eastern.

earlier votecount (DEB wagon):

Dr Easy Bake (5): kuribo, MariaR, panthaleon, Flavor Leaf, davesaz
nomnomnom (2): Gammagooey, DEB
MariaR (1): Almost50
Flavor Leaf (1): Firebringer
kuribo (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (3): Flavor Leaf, nomnomnom, EspressoPatronum

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is 2/16 at 11:59PM Eastern.

[Almost50]

In my massclaim, I said the lightning rod is X-shot. FL and I specifically talked about doing this in our hood to make it seem stronger + thus more of a threat to scum.

MASSCLAIM:
Hood: Leading Actors
Members: EP, FL, X Elements
Power: Doctor
LMS: X-shot lightning rod

So, @Ank, how did you know it was a 1-shot

before

anyone in the thread mentioned it?

RED ALERT

Please finish the massclaim:

Almost50 - Ankamius - Chennisden

- Vote Remove / Vigilante

Elements - EspressoPatronum - Flavor Leaf

- Doctor / 1shot Lightning Rod

Firebringer - nomnomnom - Volpe14

- Commuter / Vengeful

Kuribo - MariaR - Panthaleon

- Roleblocker / ???

Dr Easy Bake - Gammagooey - Volxen

- ??? / ???

Davesaz - Deasvail - Farkran

- Inventor / ???

Basically everything is out already so there's no reason to just leave the rest unclaimed

(this message from EC)

Good catch! Good catch indeed!!

The problem is this has like 1163 different explanations!

Like, Scum!Ank slipped? She either knew it from you (EP) or from FL... OR made a logical deduction (how many shots does a Lightening Rod usually get anyway??), or it was mentioned in the Scum PT with NEITHER FL/EP being Scum, or it was her skimming and not paying much attention... etc.

Town!Ank ALSO could've skimmed and made that assumption, or could have deduced it. She obviously would not have learned about it from either of FL/EP nor would she have read in the Scum PT, but she could also be making a WRONG assumption and you really are X shot (where X > 1, which is unlikely but theoretically valid).

Oh, wait! It could have been from her TEAM PT (and it still could be Town or Scum).

I'll spare you what the other 1153 explanations are for now (saving some space and time), but to sum it all up.. this is NAI. (Note: NAI as IT COULD BE TRUE IR IT COULD BE FALSE).

My question here is: WHAT DO SCUM GAIN FROM A LIGHTNING ROD ABILITY?? Do they want to redirect the kill unto themselves?? If so, WHY THE HELL DID THEY SABOTAGE THE COMMUTER HOOD BEFOREHAND? It was their ONLY way to survive without being sus as hell. (Note: FL declared he won't be using the ability and it does look bad on him of he doesn't die either way).

Still, I don't think the designers decided to factor in precisely THAT, and thus still think EP/FL are both Town, hence Ank could not have learned about the 1-shot thing from either, and thus it still is bloody NAI in my book.

P.S. I could very much bend my narrative ANYWAY you like me to. I mean, Yes.. Ank is Scum with FL and you can reread the whole game and find a load of fitting evidence. Or you can assume Ank is Town and EP is Scum trying to capitalize on an honest mistake and you still could find enough evidence to support the case too.

Now another question: Why would Scum want to give ME the Vig shot?? I don't think ANYONE would be able to guess whom I might shoot (not even I tbh) at this point.

So, you see.. this -and more- is all going through my head, and I don't know what to do!

Spoiler:

[Ankamius]

A50 your posts have been getting a lot better lately and I appreciate that

[Ankamius]

EC says that no shit its 1shot, what kind of setup would have everybody have no action for multiple nights when a commuter hood exists

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Spoiler: Unformatted VC

nomnomnom (2): Gammagooey, DEB
Dr Easy Bake (2): panthaleon, davesaz
Flavor Leaf (1): Firebringer
panthaleon (2): nomnomnom, Flavor Leaf
Ankamius (3): EspressoPatronum, kuribo, MariaR

Not Voting (2): Almost50, Ankamius

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Ankamius]

Confirmed not loved

[kuribo]

Ok for real idk, either you slipped it somewhere that ec caught or it made the most intuitive sense and he assumed it

Interesting how I'm not Eddie Cane!

you sure do like using Eddie's stuff when it's convenient for you and then disavowing it when it's not

[kuribo]

You just keep flipping extremely conveniently then complain when you get called out for being scummy. It feels like a scum shrug off tactic, and it warps the gamestate everytime.

maybe it's because I've had the playerlist endlessly telling me since day one that "I'm off this game", "my content is scummy for NAI reasons" and whatever else the fuck has been going on

people either just skim my posts or find whatever potshot angle they can every time I post so that I am constantly thrown off and unable to get a proper foothold in the game

and I've obvtowns so many times this game and it literally doesn't matter because town either doesn't care or has no idea how to read me

I'm seeing so many lose conditions being hit and I'm powerless to stop them because I have no traction anywhere despite all my attempts to try to

I'm frankly over this game and this embarrassment of a town

so in other words, people are scumreading you for your playstyle?


that's a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal flimsy excuse when you're using my own playstyle to justify a "scumread" on me