Dance of the Title Thread: Resurgence in wild?
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Would like to mention, this is a very solid nomination and it is nominations like this which're top-quality and are a good way to get a title to get through. Not many people are talking about it tho so I can't approve it yet without more people discussing it and whether they think it warrants the change and such.In post 1806, Jingle wrote:Now, before you default to "Shut up, Jingle." or "You're an idiot, Jingle." or "Underwear go inside your pants, Jingle." this is at least an 80% serious nomination.
Nom RadiantCowbells forAlien Ant Framer.
Does RadiantCowbells need a new title? I think the answer to this is yes. Over the years, he's had several, and Smooth Criminal was arguably the most fitting. I'm not arguing a return to Smooth Criminal (he's good at scum, but I can't remember the last time he went an entire game without being wagoned out of paranoia at least once) and I'm not saying Solid Criminal is a bad shift over that as it fits the newbells better than smooth criminal does now. OTOH, Solid Criminal just doesn't feel special to Raybells in the way that it could. It's true, in that I'm fairly certain that Raybells is at least mostly solid and good at playing scum, but there are any number of solid scummers that play scum well. It's a title that fits, instead a special title. It also completely ignores that Raybells isn't good at scum at the expense of his other play.
So let's examine my suggestion:
Alien, in mafia terms, is a role that is very strong as both town and scum. In fact, in smaller games Alien makes sense as the majority (or even entirety) of the power for a game. Alien, as a faction, is a shorthand term for a scumteam that is so powerful that they need a significant nerf (a single nightkill per game). Both of these show the strength of the seal as both factions, a capability of shifting the game to win as either faction nigh singlehandedly.
Framer, similarly, is a role that is difficult to play well. You have to figure out how to get a cop to target your choice or accurately figure out that a cop will be investigating a town player. More importantly to the title though, when applied correctly, Framer can get a lynch on even the strongest town player when it would normally be nigh impossible. This is a clear reference to RC's ability to push through lynches through sheer force of personality. It doesn't hurt that Raybells has been known to fake a guilty to get a lynch from time to time (and isn't that exactly what a Framer does, mechanically?).
Ant, here is a reference to the ability of ants to lift weights much larger than their own, and also the propensity of some ants to scream at you while suicide bombing out of trees. Actually, no it isn't, but I needed to include it for the pun so it stays.
The core of this title, however, is much simpler. Alien Ant Farm sings the song Smooth Criminal. Smooth Criminal was RC's title for like, decades. This isn't a username pun. This isn't an avatar pun. This isn't even a behavioral pun. This, right here, is our chance to award a title that is a title pun. And it fits.
On the note of a title with support though:
I think this title is absolutely perfect given the nature of this..."event".In post 1816, northsidegal wrote:Disorganized Crimewould be a topical joke on the forum organization
Less than sure zoraster will actually accept it, but I think that it's good enough to at leastproposeto him, so I'm giving this the 48 hour treatment:
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I feel like I would be confused if I was on the forum ~1-2 weeks and seemed to find out the top of the pyramid in proactive site administration is best understood as "disorganized crime".
I like love it as a title that was magically hidden from anyone onsite less than a year but that's not how they actually work.
OTOH saying the moderators who do the most work can't have a tongue-in-cheek title is pretty "no good deed goes unpunished"."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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thematically i would say that it's actually quite close to "consigliere" in terms of mafia-theming, even if consigliere might be more directly descriptive rather than referentialIn post 1827, popsofctown wrote:I feel like I would be confused if I was on the forum ~1-2 weeks and seemed to find out the top of the pyramid in proactive site administration is best understood as "disorganized crime".-
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for this reason i think "organized crime" is more aptIn post 1827, popsofctown wrote:I feel like I would be confused if I was on the forum ~1-2 weeks and seemed to find out the top of the pyramid in proactive site administration is best understood as "disorganized crime".
while the subforum thing is fresh in everyones head it will simply be ironic. which i think was ariels intention-
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this is from inside my brainIn post 1829, schadd_ wrote:
for this reason i think "organized crime" is more aptIn post 1827, popsofctown wrote:I feel like I would be confused if I was on the forum ~1-2 weeks and seemed to find out the top of the pyramid in proactive site administration is best understood as "disorganized crime".
while the subforum thing is fresh in everyones head it will simply be ironic. which i think was ariels intention-
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I think Organized Crime is more apt but that's why Disorganized Crime is so fantastic. It pokes fun and even people months down the line who don't know the origin of the title but are acquainted with zoraster's personality will still be able to grasp the joke.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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How about I open up it to an ironic Organized Crime or more direct Disorganized Crime, leave the choice up to zoraster? Leave him the choice of either.
Extending deadline due to extra option, for further discussion on the matter. (Basically, to give him the choice of either instead of forcing one.)
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NOIn post 1836, mastina wrote:How about I open up it to an ironic Organized Crime or more direct Disorganized Crime, leave the choice up to zoraster? Leave him the choice of either.
Extending deadline due to extra option, for further discussion on the matter. (Basically, to give him the choice of either instead of forcing one.)
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Organised Crime takes what's good about Disorganised Crime and flattens it. I don't like that for this title."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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I like organized crime
Very controversy"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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In post 459, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Maybe something like "The Accountant of Monty Christ-O" because of him studying accounting at that super Christian college in Oklahoma?
Okay, maybe that one's not a winner.In post 462, Errantparabola wrote:nom private i forThe Accountant of Monty Christ-O, Written by Alexandeer Dumashbc he studies accounting at a christian college and his avatar is a deer and he plays in mish mashIn post 487, mastina wrote:
So I'm not a frequent Mish Mash player. Could someone link me to some examples so that I can confirm that it's a fitting title? I want to judge for myself, but this certainly looks like it has merit at the very least.In post 467, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Nominate PrivateI for Monty Hall
He hosts a lot of Game Show/ORG stuff, referencing that his name (not username) is Monty and the late famous Monty Hall, host of "Let's Make a Deal".
Also the name of the mathematical concept for probability if someone can tie that in somehow.
This discussion from the summer seems to have totally died off. My original nom was in the same vein of crywolf20084's title being Cayke and to a lesser extent Thestatusquo being Shea. PrivateI is arguably more prominently known by the name Monty than by his actual username. In the same way that it's difficult to remember Cayke's actual username, it's difficult to remember Monty has any other name. In the game thread for the LSG he just finished hosting, there's like 7 instances of him being referred to as Monty and none of him being called PrivateI. When he gets mentioned in 12 players and a mod lists in GTKAS he's getting called Monty. I'd link more examples if not for Speakeasy grey areas, but there are plenty. The fact that he's so often referred to as Monty causes confusion sometimes, like in multiple SUPP threads.
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As for the Monty Hall aspect: he primarily hosts one night games on Skype/Discord so it's a bit difficult to provide links to things. He does mod Investments which seems very relevant and has modded multiple iterations of Allocate/Execute. He co-modded an LSG with a unique mechanic of procedural generation of twists. He won Disney's World Domination while portraying the character of game show host Alex Trebek.Last edited by Ariel on Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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That is something I can understand the reasoning for the title, yes. I'd like to see people give a quick check-in on it to see if people still think it's suited for him, but I'm not going to ask for a full five to check in, just one or two more would be enough for me to move forward on Monty Hall or a similar title for PrivateI.
On the note of having the necessary people...I believe Klick is almost there on Flash Forward, so similarly needs just about one or two more there.
Tempted to just bring both titles to the 48 hour mark right here and now to be honest but I suppose I'll still formally ask for people to if they support those titles give their support for them.-
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I like Monty. Ariel's write-up is on point.
edit: I also like Monty as a title-
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48 hoursonMontyandFlash Forward!
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