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Post Post #6225 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:40 am

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VOTE: Churros
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Post Post #6226 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:41 am

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In post 6211, Churros wrote:One of Farside/BB is town
Farside keeps consistently making ubertownie sounding posts. I did hard tr molla’s progression on nsg but his refusal to even consider the possibility that he may be wrong on us, is concerning. If he’s town, he doesn’t know for sure RC’s alignment and even if he’s right about it, why would he auto jump the conclusion that we’re scum > being wrong? It’s almost like he almost wants us to be scum, well so does Fire but he’s just bad. :lol:
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Post Post #6227 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:42 am

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I think Farside is most likely the townie there yes

BB is very probably just scum
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Post Post #6228 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:43 am

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I don't think Farside is uber townie though

She's just better than BB constantly being sassy about everything

I don't remember him being this way in Camun/Pine game.
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Post Post #6229 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:46 am

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VOTE: BBmolla
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Post Post #6230 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:47 am

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This is unexpected gobble

positively unexpected

why the vote though
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Post Post #6231 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:48 am

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i mean, Fire is bad and I don't really feel like BB scum reading you is this malicious thing you think it is.
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tried to talk down Eve's correct vote on lie ren so I think its valid for ppl to side-eye you. What might be more telling is ppl that think you are townie depite that b/c that could be scum that knows you are town.
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Post Post #6232 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:50 am

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In post 6216, Nero Cain wrote:Nancy, you do know that I was calling Baezu scum in your game?

It's just that you trying to talk down Eve's scum read/vote on Lie ren can be interpreted as scummy.
Auro did sr him but I thought his tr on me, didn’t look like a pocket. I don’t see that. I didn’t like that she voted him by blindly sheeping RC, without independently reading him. Of course that was before I knew what he flipped. I think I didn’t suck this bad in Sky’s large normal, so if sucking at this game makes me wrongly appear scummy, it’s well within my town meta. I think you know from CoaLITion or should know and remember how agenda driven I was in that. Here, I clearly have no clue as to wtf I’m doing.
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Post Post #6233 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:53 am

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In post 6217, Churros wrote:By the way all of my reads are likely wrong if TH is scum but I don't think they are

The unique hesitation on calling them town is because RC called them scum
Auro, you’re wrong. Mastina is my most confident tr and I am fine with being mislynched if I’m wrong on that.
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Post Post #6234 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:54 am

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In post 6218, We are not helping wrote:
In post 6150, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 6144, We are not helping wrote:Oh wait Titus is dead. Ok, maybe we should just lynch Cakez?

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Post Post #6235 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:55 am

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In post 6230, Churros wrote:This is unexpected gobble

positively unexpected

why the vote though
Nero Cain is probably town. WW is being replaced so nothing to do there. BBmolla 870 looks suspect with a Lie Ren scum flip
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Post Post #6236 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:58 am

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My unique problem to completely see scum!BB is who their partners is in xmas.

I was considering very maybe it was you, but with that vote I just ruled it out as well.

He is been suggesting lynches on Elmo/NM, although he has three times now flaked on Elmo a bit. But still, it would be bad play if he's scum.

He doesn't particularly make me think he wouldn't do that as scum though.
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Post Post #6237 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:00 am

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In post 6220, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6215, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 6195, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6191, Trojan Horses wrote:I expected more from your scumgame, Nero
this post is kinda weird. You have played with scum me so why are you acting like you haven't?
Lololol, pot meet kettle? Hello? :roll:
I'm pretty sure that I have not played with Auro scum.

Can you explain your read progression on me? You went from town reading to accusing me of being scum with an unflipped slot to being ok with me lynch. Why am I scum here?

You are saying that I should be town reading you b/c I've played with you. So why does that standard not apply to yourself?
I mean me obviously. Auro was sr you and he was right on Gamma but I agree with Gobbles, so I feel pretty sure you’re town now. I don’t know how much you’ve read from the game but 2/3 WANH heads tried to drive a mislynch on us over my getting wrong on Gamma and one of those heads knows for a goodamned fact that the entire scumteam pocketed me in TM but I don’t nearly feel so bad about being wrong on Gamma as I do about mislynching Titus. I kind of stopped caring about this game after that.
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Post Post #6238 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:01 am

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In post 6236, Churros wrote:My unique problem to completely see scum!BB is who their partners is in xmas.

I was considering very maybe it was you, but with that vote I just ruled it out as well.

He is been suggesting lynches on Elmo/NM, although he has three times now flaked on Elmo a bit. But still, it would be bad play if he's scum.

He doesn't particularly make me think he wouldn't do that as scum though.
It would be bad play if Elmo is his partner*

Although it would also be weird play if NM is his partner because by tunneling him like that he's confirming himself to vote NM.

I'm beginning to think I might be wrong in my WW read if BB is scum.
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Post Post #6239 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:02 am

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In post 6222, Nero Cain wrote:I might be ok with Churros death today.
I townlocked Mastina, that is my most confident read of the entire game.
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Post Post #6240 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 6223, Churros wrote:I've already said plenty of times that I'm willing to die if we kill Cakez and it's town.
What is your read on Eve? Your predecessor hard tr that slot, so it’s interesting.
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Post Post #6241 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 6240, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 6223, Churros wrote:I've already said plenty of times that I'm willing to die if we kill Cakez and it's town.
What is your read on Eve? Your predecessor hard tr that slot, so it’s interesting.
Cakez that is not RC.
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Post Post #6242 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:05 am

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In post 6234, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 6218, We are not helping wrote:
In post 6150, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 6144, We are not helping wrote:Oh wait Titus is dead. Ok, maybe we should just lynch Cakez?

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GIF and I barely agreed that game. And people got mad at us cause GIF self hammered our slot.

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Post Post #6243 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:05 am

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I don't think there's a universe where all BB/Farside/Nero is town.

But I've trouble understanding who is BB partner if he's scum and isn't awfully bussing his partner one away from victory to town.
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Post Post #6244 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:07 am

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In post 6240, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 6223, Churros wrote:I've already said plenty of times that I'm willing to die if we kill Cakez and it's town.
What is your read on Eve? Your predecessor hard tr that slot, so it’s interesting.
I could see it being Eve if I'm wrong on Cakez but you guys flipped Titus instead of a more useful slot.
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Post Post #6245 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:09 am

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Didn't BBmolla soft defend Lie Ren?

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Post Post #6246 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:09 am

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I'm going to be bold and say BBMolla/NM isn't possible with BB insistence on NM today rather than Elmo.

I could see it but I'm going to dismiss the possibility.

I'm going to rule Elmo/NM because it's not only redundant since it's our exact lynch pool, but NM tried to hammer it. I could see scum!NM hammering a scum!Elmo to just give up in the game but...such weird play, gonna dismiss.
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Post Post #6247 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:14 am

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In post 6228, Churros wrote:I don't think Farside is uber townie though

She's just better than BB constantly being sassy about everything

I don't remember him being this way in Camun/Pine game.
He just keeps calling us scum without giving a single reason other than insisting RC is town, so I initially thought his nsg progression wasn’t easily fakable but I suppose it’s possible. I’ve never played with FS before but she has been making consistently townie sounding posts, I think that’s a really accurate barometer for reading a slot. Scum can make a few townie sounding posts here and there but numerous, consistently townie sounding posts, rarely come from scum,

So my Xmas townblock is you, FS, Gobbles, Nero, nsg and probably WW.

@Nero, tell me more about your Baezu read. Can you link/quote specific posts?
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Post Post #6248 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:15 am

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If BBMolla/Farside/Nero can't be all town, I would say:

Farside/Nero isn't possible because Farside was really happy-go-lucky about voting Elmo before. Probably not a partner.

BBMolla/Farside probably not a thing because Farside is pushing BB again even when we had been trying to lynch in consensus lurkers. Not completely impossible team but I would say it's redundant to scum read both right now.

It leaves me with BBMolla/Nero with BB avoiding quite a bit voting Elmo but not too much. Weird.
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Post Post #6249 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:16 am

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Do partners matter, Churros? Wouldn’t it be better to just find a scum?
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