Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[Nero Cain]

I would say the same thing about Nero but people have made verifiable statements about his meta that I plan to verify

is there something you'd like to say?

I would but I can't so or maybe it's not at all what I'm thinking.

[northsidegal]

Whatever underlying subtext you believe there is in what I said, there is none. I said exactly what I meant and nothing more.

[Churros]

Farside I can easily see you being scum if I'm wrong on some reads but do you want to be bad cop/good cop with me?

I'll even let you decide if I'm the good or the bad cop

[Churros]

You and me Farside

Back to back.

Gotta catch 'em all.

[Nero Cain]

Why is it you treat me like im town, but if nm is town you will lynch me?

I really think NM is scum I'll start there

but look who else is out there

gobbles is town

nsg is town

ww is town

Nero/Churros is exceedingly unlikely

Farside/Churros would be the only other pairing that makes remote sense to me

I think its more likely that farside is just the defacto 5th scum member. NM/Churros seems the most likely.

Not really hard town reading NSG but NSG correctly identifying you as town and you and gobble correctly reading me gives us a nice lil' 4 wo/man block. And I'd also be willing to trust you on WW. lynching NM, Churros, YR wins us the game I think.

[farside22]

Why Nero is scum.

I saw a VC a while back where I had 3 votes on me. I don't really know what it is to lynch but I saw fars empty vote and thought that made 4 and that I may had been lynched.

Why are you avoiding my question?

This reads fake, because since he looked at the vote count he would have seen who was voting him.

The goggle read is terrible.

you already lynched one town and you are trying to lynch another. What makes your scumhunting so great compared to mine?

unless u are scum and then its your wincon to mislynch

Throwing shade to make others look bad.

N_M's predecessor was really scummy and N_M had a weird out-of-character reaction to being wagoned

eh...

I look at DDL and NM's ISO and I'm just kinda meh...

IMO the only reason to suspect NM is what I said in 6094.

On the flipside, if NM is town that means Farside has been going after exclusively all town (jjh, me, NM) so maybe think about lynching that if NM greens.

And more shade.

I might be ok with Churros death today.

No reason for the change.

VOTE: Churros

I kinda feel like the whole point of this game is to lynch whomever we think is most likely to flip scum regardless of which game it is. So I'm not really sure why there's not as much focus on who lie rens buddy is. This is why there are no deadlines barring forward progress, so we can focus on one game or the other at any given time.

I'd like everyone to explain who they think is most likely to be partners with lie ren and why.

He touched this with Bauzu and TH but hasn't said who else he is scum reading.

What if we ae having so much trouble in b/c scum are ppl that no one expects/townreads like NSG or Gobble or Churro?

Putting doubt into any town reads.

like Churros whole "I don't feel like playing mafia" followed by hyperactivity almost feels scummier than just voting me for no reason and then lurking.

This is not a scum tell in any world.

I could do a NM lynch after you

Why do you want to lynch me so bad?

You voted me earlier b/c I was the who the majority was voting. I and Molla are voting NM and Farside was/is scumreading him so why are you no longer wanting to go with the majority?

Trying to push on NM after he only said he felt meh about NM.

I've been scum reading you it's been forever Nero. You haven't read the whole game.

I haven't true. But earlier you were all like"i'm just going with the majority." and made it sound like you were reluctant. I am not longer the majority, NM is, so why have your voting habits changed?

ok but Churros there's a wagon and momentum on NM now. If you were scum reading him im not sure why you are resisting his wagon now.

Do I feel like I'm having fun here?

for someone having no fun you sure are posting alot...

nsg,

what do u think of Churros scum reading NM for all/some portion of the game but not wanting to vote there when there's momentum?

He basically took one comment and ran with it as a gottach moment which does not read town.
Never mind he hasn't said anything about BB and while I read there back and forth, it reads as though they are trying to high five each other while pushing a player to tilt.

[Nero Cain]

or maybe Churros being all like "push me instead!" makes NM somewhat likely to be town and it's just churros/YR.

[Churros]

lynching NM, Churros, YR wins us the game I think.

scum slip!

[farside22]

Why is it you treat me like im town, but if nm is town you will lynch me?

I really think NM is scum I'll start there

but look who else is out there

gobbles is town

nsg is town

ww is town

Nero/Churros is exceedingly unlikely

Farside/Churros would be the only other pairing that makes remote sense to me

Explain day 1 with that thought process.

farside pocket me harder I like it

Please don't say things like that. It makes me dislike you and feel like your buttering me up.

Farside I can easily see you being scum if I'm wrong on some reads but do you want to be bad cop/good cop with me?

I'll even let you decide if I'm the good or the bad cop

I'll be good cop. I don't have time to threaten people with pain.

[Churros]

I can't see how this isn't either Farside/NM or Nero/BB

Maybe Gobbles is scum with Nero or something, but it would be a bit weirder.

Those last pages make it a bit clear to me.

[Churros]

Please don't say things like that. It makes me dislike you and feel like your buttering me up.

This is a good post. kinda.

[gobbledygook]

can like halloween kill baezu, ty

[farside22]

I can't see how this isn't either Farside/NM or Nero/BB

Maybe Gobbles is scum with Nero or something, but it would be a bit weirder.

Those last pages make it a bit clear to me.

Why can't it be BB/Nero?

[BBmolla]

Explain day 1 with that thought process.

?

like what do you mean

[Churros]

I can't see how this isn't either Farside/NM or Nero/BB

Maybe Gobbles is scum with Nero or something, but it would be a bit weirder.

Those last pages make it a bit clear to me.

Why can't it be BB/Nero?

I said it either that or else

maybe it was poorly phrased.

[Churros]

I could see a very weird universe where scum still thinks it's ok to bus, but I'm doubting it.

[farside22]

Explain day 1 with that thought process.

?

like what do you mean

Mastina and I were at odds. I was voting her for awhile there and unvoted when I thought it Mastina's vote was bs.

I know it's been a long week and all but putting pairs together for the sake of putting things together doesn't exactly ring like you are trying to figure jack shit out.

[farside22]

I could see a very weird universe where scum still thinks it's ok to bus, but I'm doubting it.

Maybe, but with one scum lynched, there is no way scum will bus. I'm concerned with NSG defending BB.

[Nero Cain]

This reads fake, because since he looked at the vote count he would have seen who was voting him.

clearly, I remember everything I've ever looked at.

Throwing shade to make others look bad.

"boo hoo" she cried. don't really know how it makes others look bad.

And more shade.

more whine

He touched this with Bauzu and TH but hasn't said who else he is scum reading

I don't even know what this is.

Putting doubt into any town reads.

Clearly this post made everyone suddenly doubt their town reads on NSG and Gobble.

Trying to push on NM after he only said he felt meh about NM.

this is not exactly true. I said reading his ISO made me feel meh. I gave a reason that could make him a lie ren buddy. You quoted it.

your case on me is a bunch of conf bias with a side of butthurt. I mean, it's an objective fact that you lynched town d1 and while you'll scream and yell that I'm scum, I'm not.

[BBmolla]

Explain day 1 with that thought process.

?

like what do you mean

Mastina and I were at odds. I was voting her for awhile there and unvoted when I thought it Mastina's vote was bs.

I know it's been a long week and all but putting pairs together for the sake of putting things together doesn't exactly ring like you are trying to figure jack shit out.

I don't think you're scum so I'd rather not waste time going down that route tbqh

[gobbledygook]

yeah this is town nero

[farside22]

yeah this is town nero

Not seeing it. Just looks like someone who continues to through shade. I see no town quality to that.

[gobbledygook]

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read nero's iso in that game. he is notoriously difficult to play with but that just means he is town. he does not fight with others as much as scum

[Nero Cain]

Saying I think this or that is just scumhunting. I mean I guess I could kinda see where it was mean to point out that you lynched town and are pushing another but eh...facts are mean.

he is notoriously difficult to play with

I mean, not really? I'm just a loud dinosaur that doesn't always do what ppl want and it makes them sad.

[northsidegal]

yeah this is town nero

funnily enough, i had just gotten around to looking through his games myself

i guessed his alignment correctly in 5/5 games i looked at but i find myself getting cold feet in this one. i think that his ISO leans town but it's not a confirmed thing to me, and there are still things that give me pause like his reaction to being "hammered". i think i might be leaning away from lynching him today, though?